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Turn her loose in the Congress, Senate & White House.

The same kind that hordes .22 shells.

Tom

There is no actual physical distinction of aerosol versus airborne. It is on a physical continuum, and thus either transmission method can be defined as one wishes to further whatever philosophical agenda they might have.

Both sides of this debate are being very disingenuous in the discussion.

There is however a clear and concise difference and distinction in airborne an blood borne pathogens.

Ebola is a blood borne pathogen. Like HIV.

If an HIV homo spits in your mouth from 3 feet away and you get HIV, it doesn't make it airborne.

I can't believe we are having to define this over and over and over to people that are smart enough to even operate a computer.

Regardless...saliva, mucus, sweat, tears, vomit, urine, feces, breast milk, blood, and semen from an infected individual can all transmit the Ebola virus to another person if any of those infected fluids touch the person's eyes, nose, mouth, or non-intact skin (cut, sore, abrasion, etc.). And the Ebola virus is MUCH more concentrated in infected blood and body fluids than say the HIV virus is. It is definitely a virulent, scary pathogen that should not be taken lightly by anyone. Now healthcare workers across the country are being trained to sterilely get into and out of hazmat suits that are one piece with integral hood and booties, gloves before you put the suit on, another pair that are taped to the outside of the suit after you get into it, and then another pair on top of those when you're providing care to an infected patient, goggles, hairnets, and then a complete hood with a visual shield to which a respirator is attached and worn on a belt or on a backpack. Then you enter the hot zone. Then after you're through with patient care on the infected individual, you come out of the hot zone, you're then doused from head to toe with a bleach solution, and then come out of the protective gear...being careful not to touch (or be touched) by anything except the inside part of any of the protective gear.
Some think people are being overly concerned about this pathogen...some don't. Opinions vary.

Maybe they are lying, but:

"Body fluids such as saliva, sweat and tears cannot transmit HIV."

http://www.hpb.gov.sg/HOPPortal/health-article/6260

I guess that explains how the health care professionals are getting infected...

They were all in direct contact with infected people
The two TX nurses both handled blood and urine, and obviously didn't follow the correct protective procedures

Personally, I wouldn't want to be in close proximity to either one...I would never knowingly handle or touch ANYTHING that either patient had. It's been said that mosquitos can't transmit HIV, but would you feel comfortable sharing a tent with a few hungry bugs & somebody with HIV???

I think something like "blood-droplet-borne" would be a more accurate description. However, ebola seems to be able to live much longer in minute blood droplets than most other viruses, especially HIV.

Yes, because it doesn't transmit that way.

Studies have shown that HIV is not a very robust bug and people who contract HIV are either bombarded through something like a blood transfusion, or constantly exposed time and time again through needles or unprotected sex. HIV is not something that is contracted casually.

I had a partner start an IV on an HIV patient, then turn around and jab that needle into my hand (he was an idiot). Freaked me out, but everything was just fine. That was over 20 years ago.

Still confused about the identity of the enemy?

This IS news, what are you talking about? This method of transmission was talked about previously but always tamped down. We were told for weeks it was only spread by direct contact with bodily fluids. Now aerosols which contain body fluids. The fact it they don't know for sure an are playing politics and social correctness.

How does one START an IV then jab you with the needle?
FWIW, I'd have went neanderthal on his ass if true...

No one played anything down, and don't confuse YOUR not knowing about it before with it somehow being "news"

It's STILL only spread by "direct contact with bodily fluids".

Nothing is new and nothing has changed

It is NOT an "airborne disease"

It's good to see your certainty. The scientific articles I've read seem to always be couched in terms like "no evidence" and "very unlikely" regarding potential airborne status.

It appears people here are commenting WITHOUT reading the article. Typical low information consumers. The simple fact is the CDC changed the method of transfer to include aerosol particulates via a sneeze. This previously was denied by the CDC as witness the infamous bus analogy.

If the infectious dose (i.e., number of virions/virus particles required for an infection) for ebola was high, the question of whether the ebola virus could travel through the air would be moot. However, the information currently available points to a low infectious dose for ebola (i.e., very few virions are required to cause an infection). Here is what the Public Health Agency of Canada states on their PATHOGEN SAFETY DATA SHEET - INFECTIOUS SUBSTANCES for Ebola virus:

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INFECTIOUS DOSE: Viral hemorrhagic fevers have an infectious dose of 1 - 10 organisms by aerosol in non-human primates
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Canada's Public Health Agency's Ebola Safety Data Sheet webpage

It is quite possible that the listed infectious dose was extrapolated from other similar viruses, but if that's the best data we have, we have to go with that data until we have more/better data.

Thus, the concern about transmission through the air, even if a bodily fluid is required for transmission.