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I took this 9-pointer Wednesday with my .22-250 NULA loaded with 62 gr TBBC's. One shot at only about 75 yards. The buck ran about 30 yards and tipped over. The 62 TBBC's and 64 gr Nosler Bonded Performance are dead ringers for performance. I guess they should be as they are both made to law enforcement performance standards for penetration and weight retention. The added benefit is they do great for hunters using 22 CF's for deer and such. What I like most though is all the tactical SWAT nimrods don't even know Jack Carter invented the TBBC's so his kids could deer hunt more effectively with 22 CF's.

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Congrats on a nice buck! I have some of the 64 gr. Noslers to try in my Cooper .22-250 AI and look forward to putting them to work.


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I used the 64's exclusively last year, it hits game hard and is a great killer. I really like that bullet plus the fact it will shoot in any twist rate.


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62gr TTSX does the same out of my .22-250 AI


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Congrats on the buck.

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Nice buck.

22-250 is a great deer round.



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I used a 22-250 for 5 or 6 seasons loaded with 60 grain Nosler Partitions and never once felt undergunned. All of my deer were shot from 15 yards to 150 yards. Probably shot 15 deer and had only 1 run over 50 yards with most making it less than 15 yards. I often think about going back to it as the farm my dad purchased has deer that rarely go over 150 lbs. on the hoof and don't require much horsepower to punch through. Only thing I did notice with the Partition was the lack of blood on the ground on deer that traveled any distance at all even though I watched all but that 1 deer go down, I want to see more blood in case an animal does do a bit of traveling or gets in thick brush.


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Where are you getting 62 gr TBBCs as a component?


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Nice buck and great shooting too.


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Nice. I think a NULA in 22/250 would be around a perfect combo.


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Still have a 22/6mm on my list.... thinking mid to heavy TTSX and it'll be hard to top...


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Could those of you who shoot deer with .22 CF comment on bullet placement?



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Put a bullet where the goodies are. I've never had a problem busting bone. I've hit them square in the knuckle and had the bullet go out the other side.

Using good bullets is never a bad thing. When I start shooting 200 game animals a year I might start worrying about an extra $20 per hundred for cost of bullets, but I doubt it.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Could those of you who shoot deer with .22 CF comment on bullet placement?



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Most of mine have been through the meaty part of the shoulder but my closest 15 yard shot with my 22-250 and my largest deer to date, a buck that dressed in the 220's was shot through both shoulder blades with full penetration and an exit hole. Those partitions cruise right on through deer with a nickel sized exit. Even liver punched 2 deer, a buck that went about a body length forward before crashing and a doe that went maybe a long hundred yards. Shoot them in any vitals and they don't go far at all. Never tried any super steep quartering away shots just broadside or slight quartering to and break the nearside shoulder.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Could those of you who shoot deer with .22 CF comment on bullet placement?



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If you are shooting good bonded or monolithic bullets, placement is the same as with larger calibers. Behind the shoulder through the ribs if you are trying to save meat. If you are trying to make sure the critter goes nowhere, right on the shoulder.

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Same ad any other chambering,bust shoulder or if you preference take out lungs


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Thank You Gentlemen.

Tom, I get the 62 TBBC from Rocky Mountain Reloading. The owner is a guy named Jake. He gets rejected lots of ammo from ATK and sells the pulled Bear Claws, Gold Dots and Fusions. Heres a link to the website.

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Scott, I have two NULA's this 22-250 and a 223. I love them both but push comes to shove the 22-250 is my favorite.

And like these guys have said shot placement is the same using good bullets like TSX, TTSX, Partitions, Bonded Performance, TBBC's and so forth.


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Thanks for the link LBP.


By what you say, performance of the 62 TBBC is pretty much the same as the 64 Gr. Nosler bonded.

I found both the 64 grainer and the old 55 gr. TBBC to be excessive in the damage done. They are sure enough killers out of the little guns and would be good anytime you may feel you need an 'edge'...or see a hog wink grin


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Originally Posted by deflave
Nice buck.

22-250 is a great deer round.



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It really is. I've used it on several now but not nearly as many as the 223. They both work fine but the 22-250 just seems to hit a little harder and the deer seem to cash in a little quicker. Not that the 223 is ineffective hardly, but the 22-250 just seems like its a little more.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Thanks for the link LBP.


By what you say, performance of the 62 TBBC is pretty much the same as the 64 Gr. Nosler bonded.

I found both the 64 grainer and the old 55 gr. TBBC to be excessive in the damage done. They are sure enough killers out of the little guns and would be good anytime you may feel you need an 'edge'...or see a hog wink grin


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They perform identical you can look at gel testing from ATK and Winchester/LE where both are shot thru all kinds of media they always expand, penetrate, and retain weight very close to each other.

Now I don't know if I believe this but rumor is ATK asked Nosler/Winchester to come up with a LE loading similar to the 62 TBBC because they were having a hard time keeping up with the demand. The truth is probably Nosler/Winchester did it on their own, but anyway that's the rumor.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Thanks for the link LBP.


By what you say, performance of the 62 TBBC is pretty much the same as the 64 Gr. Nosler bonded.

I found both the 64 grainer and the old 55 gr. TBBC to be excessive in the damage done. They are sure enough killers out of the little guns and would be good anytime you may feel you need an 'edge'...or see a hog wink grin


I forgot to add they do more meat damage in my experience as well compared to the TSX.


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All my kills with either the 64 or the old 55 TBBC were out of a .22-250 or a .223AI so they were stepping out a little faster than a regular .223

I kinda wonder if the damage isn't lessened with less velocity. It would make perfect sense.


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I know just from my unscientific testing they expand and penetrate slightly less from the 223 than the 22-250.

I've never used the 55 TBBC's on game but might soon.


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The trade off to slightly more meat damage is they seem to kill just a hair quicker. Meaning lung/heart shot deer run a little shorter distance with the bonded bullets compared to the mono's. Just my experience. They all work great.


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I would agree, but its pretty hard to tell when they always seem to die within about 20 yards...

I sure do think the bonded stuff would be the shizz on hogs...


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LBP: What is your .22-250 twisted?


Mine is the usual 1 in 14 and it just plain wasn't having those 64 grainers....


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I need to shoot some hogs with it for further testing. wink

My 22-250 is a 1-8". Funny though the heaviest I have shot in it are the 64's. I have some 75 Swifts I need to try.


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I've heard the 64's shoot well in a 1-14", maybe not.


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Talk to the boys at Swift and get them to make a 22 cal A-frame.... whistle


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
I like the Swifts


I like them too, great bullets.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Talk to the boys at Swift and get them to make a 22 cal A-frame.... whistle


Alas, I'm not a famous gun writer like you. wink But, I'd love a .224 A-Frame. I can get Bill Hober's phone number for you if that helps. He seemed like a nice guy the couple times I talked to him... whistle

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I don't need an A-Frame, just tell them to change the name of the Scorrico so I can spell it correctly without looking it up every time.


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Speaking of that kind of thing I was going to take my .303 to Africa and wanted a good bullet for it years ago. Federal Advertised a TBBC in their factory 303 ammo. I wanted some as a component. Ended up talking to Art Carter himself, who never heard of it, and it turns out either did Federal! grin


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
I don't need an A-Frame, just tell them to change the name of the Scorrico so I can spell it correctly without looking it up every time.


No schitt.


One reason I like A-Frames. I can spell it.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
I don't need an A-Frame, just tell them to change the name of the Scorrico so I can spell it correctly without looking it up every time.


Me too!!! Every time... laugh


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Speaking of that kind of thing I was going to take my .303 to Africa and wanted a good bullet for it years ago. Federal Advertised a TBBC in their factory 303 ammo. I wanted some as a component. Ended up talking to Art Carter himself, who never heard of it, and it turns out either did Federal! grin


Figures they were just getting your hopes up...


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To what distance do y'all limit your shots on deer when using a .22 CF? I'm particularly interested in 64 grain NSB.



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Originally Posted by deflave

22-250 is a great deer round.



Not so great for elk, or so I've heard tell....


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
To what distance do y'all limit your shots on deer when using a .22 CF? I'm particularly interested in 64 grain NSB.



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I like the .223 to 200ish yards and the .22-250 to 300ish yards.


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22-250 is a great deer round.



Not so great for elk, or so I've heard tell....



Not saying its great for elk but, I believe some of the Montana fellows here at the fire have taken elk with it.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
To what distance do y'all limit your shots on deer when using a .22 CF? I'm particularly interested in 64 grain NSB.



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Here's a couple threads about the 64 gr Nosler.

64gr Nosler Test Fire

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To what distance do y'all limit your shots on deer when using a .22 CF? I'm particularly interested in 64 grain NSB.



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I like the .223 to 200ish yards and the .22-250 to 300ish yards.

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Originally Posted by LBP
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22-250 is a great deer round.



Not so great for elk, or so I've heard tell....



Not saying its great for elk but, I believe some of the Montana fellows here at the fire have taken elk with it.



Yup. Pushing a 62X, it is a mean motor scooter but not if you try a '250 in a 7-08.... *grin*

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