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John,
The 6.5x57 is looked down upon because it's far inferior to the 6.5x57R, the cartridge I used to fill my Montana whitetail doe tag this year. Well there ya go J.B.> I 'll let my Model 70 know that.... but until then, I seem to get more velocity out of it than I do my 260s... but then, it is on a long action...where bullets can be seated out there a long way... I love it because it is easily a 6.5 x 55, and then some when handloaded, but I love it being "rare" yet just neck up Roberts Brass .007 to load for it.. ( with a definite preference for Win over Rem brass)..... is yours a 6.5 x 57R ( for Rimmed ) or a 6.5 x 57 B ( Barsness)? 
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Thought you were blowing smoke, and then wondered if it was an old rimfire, but ya got me on that one, Scott. Wasn't there an old 11( something) by 57 made back during those times also? or is that another name for the 43 Egyptian? a shop just off of I5 as soon as you crossed into Hilt CA, had a couple of those 43 Egytians on the Wall, along with an 11 x something Mauser....
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For an American cartridge, the 300 Savage. It killed everything that the 308 Winchester does for decades. It still does.
For a metric cartridge the 7.9x57 JS Mauser. It'll kill what the 30/06 does but has never been very popular in North America.
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Around here I guess it might be the 6.5x55. But for some narrow minded idiots, every single caliber not sitting in their safe is over rated (and around here you will often find that there might only be one rifle in that safe).
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I often wonder what a 8�57 improved would gain..
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I finally quit looking for the 6.5X55 I wanted and packed up a Husqvarna action to be rebarrelled. I'll put it in the original Tradewinds Husky stock and it'll match the .30/06 of the same vintage. Underrated cartridge? Maybe but it's replacing a couple others in the safe as I pare down the accumulation.
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Never used it but I heard the 220 Swift had a following once upon a time.
You don't hear much about it anymore.
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.30-30. After 119 years there are still alot of dumbazzes out there who think it's just a marginally adequate 100 yard deer rifle and the .35 Rem. is more effective.
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8x57. I don't know how underrated it is , but I know how underloaded it is. Handloads make it a lot better.
It seems like the .308 doesn't get much attention these days.
I agree Blackheart, the 30/30 has always worked very well for me.
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Another thread brought this to mind.
Obviously, mainstays like the .30-30 have proved their mettle for eons and still have great followings back East. Here in the West it seems you're a pussy (and amateur) if you don't have a mag for those long and 'less than ideal' shot placements (snork).
In my mind, I'm kind of thinking the .243 might win this one. Many consider it more than you need for varmints and predators and certainly not enough for, God Forbid!, elk.
But it certainly can do it all with aplomb (read: accuracy, low recoil, trajectory, drift, etc).it sure seems to be the little cartridge that could and even among self described 'loonies' on this site doesn't seem to garner the respect it deserves.
What's your pick? Would have been easier if you'd asked... "What's your choice....blondes, brunettes, or redheads??"
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John,
It's amazing how so many people are nit-picking over magazine-length differences in the newer 6.5 rounds from the .260 on up, when cartridges like the 6.5x57 and 6.5x55 work so well in ".30-06 length" magazines, with zero bullet-seating issues. I've been tempted by the 6.5x57 a few times, but then ended up with enough Lapua 6.5x55 brass at a really good price to last me the rest of my life. (Mine's on a commercial FN 98 action.)
The 6.5x57R (not B) is the same round as the rimless 6.5x57, but with with the rim added to work in break-action firearms. Mine's in a Sauer drilling with 16-gauge barrels. And of course there are no complications with bullet seating....
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The 7-08 seems underrated in my neck of the woods.
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375 H&H, does more than kill elephants.  Yes, I use mine on squirrels.....It way over penetrates better than the puzzy azzed 243 that those sissies use... I bet you drive a lifted truck too.
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.221 Fireball
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The 7-08 seems underrated in my neck of the woods. Same here. I've converted a few but they all still bitch about factory ammo prices.
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The 7-08 seems underrated in my neck of the woods. Same here. I've converted a few but they all still bitch about factory ammo prices. There's this new process called reloading I hear about. Apparently you get good ammunition at reasonable prices. They might want to check it out. 
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Scott; Good evening to you sir, I trust this finds you and yours well. So in the spirit of your reply, I'll see your 43 Egyptian and raise you an 8x56 Kropatschek. You just never hear anyone say anything good about either one really. Dwayne I'll cover that bet and raise you a 13mm Gyrojet.
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All righty then!
I have a 300 sav. 308 win. 8x57 30/30 3006 6.5 x55. But they all can do about the same thing!
How about the 444? or 45/70? It will allow slug states to hunt with lever guns (plus reload, not $3.75 per slug). And If a grizzly decides to hide out in a Ohio cornfield WHUP! U need some squirrels, rabbits for the stewpot.......just use the scattergunload!
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.280 Remington - I do not ever hear much about the .280 Remington. It is everything and more than a .270 and when handloaded it all but equals the great 7mm mag. Can be had in fairly lightweight rifles and has a great selection of bullets available for it but it never seems to get much love.
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