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If they did offer one of those, I would buy it.
I guess I could buy a #1 and rebarrel it... but that extractor scares me.
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Is it yours, or is it for sale somewhere?
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Thanks for posting pictures of the 22 rifle. Pretty nice installation of the sleeve, had to look for it. The nose of the extractor is beveled isn't it? I reckon to keep the supported chamber of the rimfire; looks like a nice way to do the extractor to me.
I have a twin, or pretty similar to the one you pictured, I sleeved a Ruger 1A to 22lr and 17 HM2, but used a bit more simple extractor that has worked ok for a while now.
I will study the extractor you pictured, probably is a good update to mine perhaps once I understand it a bit more.
appreciate the pictures, a rimfire no.1 will grow on you more and more......... :-) I have two No.1 rimfire rifles now, and planning for a 17hmr and 17wsm..........just to say I did it once sorta speak.
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This conversion was done by a shop in Michigan, yes it is a sleeved barrel.
Cost I feel was reasonable, $350 for the labor, $35 for liner.
Throws spent casings over right shoulder.
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I have grown to like the sleeved approach. I have found that the accuracy of the sleeved barrels rivals or equals some aftermarket barrels that I have.Fairly enlightening to me.
Lots of the timing work is already done just sitting there if you use an old barrel off the rifle. But then you have to do the old chamber plug, set the barrel back(my opinion only) and ream the old bore/new plug to the sleeve's diameter plus some. I was too poor for a piloted drill for the liner install, so I used a straight chucking reamer on an extension; really helps with the cosmetics at the muzzle. I am a fan of the new retainer adhesives.
Some years ago, I got interested in these guns, a No.1 rimfire, but no one would make one up for me, so I just had to do it myself. Went thru all the throes of lifting arm versus breechblock firing pin position, finally settled in on the breechblock method as a removable bushing can allow for different rimfire calibers. The ejector can be daunting, but after a while, kinda comes to you with some new skills. The ejector in the pictured rifle is the best renditon that I have seen so far, beats my simplistic blade extractor by a ways, but cannot complain on my blade type either; but the pictured one is much more pleasing.
The fellow that did the work needs to be complimented on his technique, tis nicely done.
I know you will enjoy the new acquisition a lot.........feels like a rifle; just a swell rifle to be sure....impressive.
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Man, that is a PEACH!
I LOVE it!
What was the donor rifle? I love the Circassan walnut!
Mitch, it you ever want to sell that thing, I am your man!!
Todd
P.S. Would you please PM me the gunsmith's info?
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That's very nice.
Too bad about the ugly wood(grin)
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Here is the above pic cropped, enlarged, and gamma corrected. Oi, that looks good.
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Man, that is a PEACH!
I LOVE it!
What was the donor rifle? I love the Circassan walnut!
Mitch, it you ever want to sell that thing, I am your man!!
Todd
P.S. Would you please PM me the gunsmith's info? ClarkM, thanks for the help with the enlargement of the photo. Todd, Sent you a link to the Gun Shop. Here again, Michigan Gunshop The guy at Ruger really took care of me on the stock. It is a little bit of a sad story. This is Ruger No.1, serial number 751 !!! I purchased the rifle, and when it showed up, both the forearm and the buttstock had numerous cracks!! So I ended up sending it to Ruger for some new wood, (I believe it cost me $275) and the Ruger guy literally had to fit the buttstock to the receiver because it required hand fitting!! (Still a slight gap at tang.) I'm hoping the massive recoil of the .22 LR won't crack the buttstock!! So it started life as an S22L, 22" light weight barrel, no sights, Beavertail forearm,.243 Winchester. Johnson's also added the front sling swivel to the barrel, (AB's have a sling stud in the wood of the Beavertail forearm) Now it is the rifle you see above, and I could not be happier!!! Mitch
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Yep, I would say you done good!!
Beautiful!
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Yep, I would say you done good!!
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Johnson's are good people1 Bought several guns from them
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A beautiful rifle. I have a #3 in 223 that I have been thinking about doing that very same thing. Wondering how they handled the firing pin problem did they bush the block or shorten the link? Also have been thinking about the ejector and how to execute it may start it long and use the reamer to finish it. Also wondering how it is to load? Thanks Chris
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A beautiful rifle. I have a #3 in 223 that I have been thinking about doing that very same thing. Wondering how they handled the firing pin problem did they bush the block or shorten the link? Also have been thinking about the ejector and how to execute it may start it long and use the reamer to finish it. Also wondering how it is to load? Thanks Chris Chris, About the only question I can answer is it is easy to load. Part of that is I went with a nice little scope so I have some clearance. I'll take some more close-ups for anybody that would like to see. (Will post soon.) Mitch
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Thant would be great, Thank You! Could you take one with the action closed to show how high the breech block is?
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Thant would be great, Thank You! Could you take one with the action closed to show how high the breech block is? Here is what I have. Let me know if there are some shots that would be more helpful. Barrel tip and crown, flawless. As I start raising the breechblock. The conversion rifle is top rifle.
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I kinda like the idea of the extractor tip having the most contact with the cartridge during the rear movement of said extractor, a formed cut on the hook does that. Certainly more than just a simplistic blade extractor.
One of the later pictures seem to show that the extractor cut(barrel recess) does extend into the chamber proper. I am not sure that I could do that on a rimfire chamber unless the extractor was fully supported, just my own very conservative opinion.
I would surmise from another later picture that the breechblock has been machined for a new firing pin position, just guessing from the height.
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Thank You very much for the pictures. wondering if the spent cases show any swelling where the extractor is? At one point I was thinking a swap barrel would be very nice I had the crazy thought of machining the 22 barrel off center to take care of the firing pin location and the extractor would be on a spring loaded pin with a cut to leave the original in place. I still may try at some point. They make a 22 caliber insert for the 40 and 45 caliber rifles that was a thought at one point as well. I am interested in the blade extractor could a picture be posted of it? Maybe I will just leave the rifle as a 223 so I can reload for it may even be cheaper than current 22 ammo.
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ctw,
The offset shank method is a third method of conversion. In my opinion to do it nicely, one needs a large lathe spindle diameter to do the offset shank. I also think one needs a larger diameter barrel blank to keep the barrel exterior cosmetics(taper) looking factory.
The blade extractor is just one of many terms used for the extractor used in a lot of todays ots rimfire firearms. Usually has a 45 degree or so slot cut in the barrel face and the extractor nose has a flattish edge that purchases the rim tangentially in one spot. The extractor cut does not intrude into the chamber proper but the slot in the barrel face is very close to that. Take a looksee at the typical Ruger or High Standard pistol for visuals.
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I've always thought the #1 was a little too big to make a good .22 rimfire, but that's a very elegant example!
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Wow is that nicely done. Great, now I need to keep my eye out for a used Ruger 1AH .....
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Mitch, my donor No. 1 AB .270 is on it's was to Steve.
After much thought, I decided on a 17HMR. I have several nice 22lr and a couple nice 22mags, but only a Thompson Contender in 17.
I've already changed my mind 3 times, and I just sent it at 5pm. I think I'm second guessing my choice in caliber...now I'm leaning towards a 22mag...
Loony is the only term that can describe my condition...
What do you gentleman think? 17HMR or 22Mag?
Argh! What have you done to me Mitch?!? Steve quoted 4 weeks turn around. I will be truely amazed if he meets that deadline!
Stoked to get it back though!
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Do they make a liner for the 22 mag? .224 right?
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Yep, they said that they could do a 22 mag liner, and you are correct on the caliber, .224
He did say that a .17 would be a little more money though.
My gut tells me to go 22 mag, but like I said before, I have a nice one already, and only have a contender barrel in .17 HMR.
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Todd,
I love the 17 HMR also! I have a Volquartsen .22 LR, and 17 HMR, and I love the 17 caliber round.
Last time I shot it, I got nice little groups, and you can actually purchase 17 HMR rounds at most retailers.
17 HMR is a great round in my book.
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Big Sky Could you please post pictures of your rifle when done? Did you decide on the 22 mag? Also wondering about lead or turn around time?
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I sure will.
I spoke with Steve, the gunsmith, on Monday and he made my decision easier...he does not have a .17 liner and they are on back order. So, I am having the .22 Mag done.
He told me that it would be done and in my hands in 4 weeks.
We shall see.
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I sure will.
I spoke with Steve, the gunsmith, on Monday and he made my decision easier...he does not have a .17 liner and they are on back order. So, I am having the .22 Mag done.
He told me that it would be done and in my hands in 4 weeks.
We shall see.
Todd I saw your barreled action today. I was in the area so I swung by to check out the shop. I had a chance to talk with the gunsmith and saw some of his other work. Certainly a quality product he puts out. Anyways, he's go the liner installed and chambered, barrel re-stamped, and extractor set. My guess is you'll be getting a call from him in a few days.
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Wow, that is incredible! I'm used to measuring gunsmith time in months, if not years, but certainly not weeks!
I can't wait to get it. As soon as I do, I'm gonna send him another to do as a 17 HMR.
I'll post pix as soon as I get it.
Thanks for the update, TD. Todd
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First off, I want to apologize to Mitch for TOTALLY hijacking his thread...I feel bad about that. With the apologies out of the way, I am pleased to inform you all that Steve the gunsmith called me yesterday and told me that the rifle is finished and should be on the way today...so, hopefully if UPS doesn't completely drop the ball I should have it early next week...hopefully! Once I get it in my hot little hands, I will snap some pictures and get them posted up here. He also said that the .17 liner came in, so he is ready to build that one as well. Now I just need to find an appropriate donor. Anyone have a reasonably priced No. 1 that they want to get rid of? Merry Christmas everyone! Todd
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I'm looking forward to plenty of range reports once you get it. That way I can decide if I need to get one too.
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Really wanting to hear about your rifle when it is delivered, I was hoping it was already in your hands.
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Ha ha, probably not nearly as much as I am! Turns out that it didn't get shpiped until 12/29 and has been sitting in Minneapolis since 12/30. Hopefully I will get it by the 5th, which is my B-Day. Then it can be my present to myself! Still looking for another reasonably priced donor. Have you guys checked No. 1 prices lately?! Crazy! A .270 Win in AB configuration just sold on GunBroker for over $1800! That's what this donor was...
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Saw that one, the AB-270's were the most common AB's from that time period. Both the .223, 7X57, .30-06 were all much tougher to find.
While the .270 WIN. that sold for over $1800 had very nice wood, I cannot come up with any other reason than some guys having a pissing match for it!!
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Yes, that would indeed make a cool donor! I think the RSI would be a better .22lr. It would have been a REALLY cool .22mag!
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Saw that one, the AB-270's were the most common AB's from that time period. Both the .223, 7X57, .30-06 were all much tougher to find.
While the .270 WIN. that sold for over $1800 had very nice wood, I cannot come up with any other reason than some guys having a pissing match for it!!
I still have a 7x57 in an AB. I sold a very nice one in 30-06 a couple years ago that put that .270 to shame! I think I got the princely sum of $700 for it... A bidding war is the only explanation I could come up with. My rifle is in Fargo, ND. I guess I jinxed myself with the UPS comment...
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Steve does outstanding work. This conversion was done by a shop in Michigan, yes it is a sleeved barrel.
Cost I feel was reasonable, $350 for the labor, $35 for liner.
Throws spent casings over right shoulder.
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WooHOO!! It's here! He really does do great work. I just got it late tonight, and haven't been able to shoot it yet. It started out as an AB in .270 Win. I don't have anything against the cartridge, but this rifle never did impress me in the accuracy department. So,when Mitch showed off his new .22, this one seemed like the perfect donor. The stock is actually a factory piece, just refinished. The forend is cut back about 4" and slimmed way down. Then the ebony tip was added and the whole thing was re-checkered by a gentleman here in Montana. The scope is an old steel Weaver with a post and cross hair reticle. I can't wait to get it out and play! I will get some better pictures when I can get out and play with it.
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I really like how the forearm was improved!
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I really like how the forearm was improved! I also like the forearm! Frankly the standard AB forearm normally looks a little big with the "A" pencil 22" BBL. sticking out. I have never warmed up to the "B"'s because they always feel barrel heavy. That is why I have plenty of "A"'s and "RSI"'s. Glad you like the job Steve did, I also could not be happier!! Mitch
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Have you had a chance to shoot her yet?
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Sadly I have not... Hopefully this weekend. I'm up to my @ss in snow.
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Wow is that nicely done. Great, now I need to keep my eye out for a used Ruger 1AH ..... A donor you say ? I have the exact S22L in .243 Win w/ Semi-BT Forend ! And yes, It is a non-prefix 4 digit #1, in nearly new cond' and a shooter to boot ! Many years ago, just after Sighting in, I evaporated a Crow into a cloud of feathers from about 250 yds.away . 80 gr Powerlokt HP . Anyone interested PM me before I post it on the classifieds. If someone buys it, just don't tell me yer makin' a 22 rimfire out of it .lol
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Nitrosonic, PM sent.
Thx, Todd
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