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No matter.
With 31 priors of any kind, as far as Im concerned, he is now where he should be.
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maybe he should've had a real job, being a respectable citizen instead of 2-bit street hustler with 3 dozen previous arrests.
big [bleep] like him would be great floating a concrete pour
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what bothers me isn't the choke hold, its the man telling them he can't breathe - like 9 times?
at what point do, you know, actually care that the guy might be in distress and its more important that he live than it is to keep your knee on his neck?
if there was video of me - not as a cop but as a man, lets say Garner was threatening me - not life threatening but general mouthing off and I made the decision to take him down, I had him subdued - and he told me 9 times he couldn't breathe - my ass would be in jail.
and throw in on top of it, there is a police policy against a choke hold or attempting to use a choke hold.
I think this cop needs to go to trial. I didn't think that about Wilson or George Zimmerman
also, I don't claim to be an expert on grand jury's but I can tell you that if you don't have a strong willed foreman on the jury or a group of people willing to confront authority, then they are mostly a rubber stamp for whatever the D.A. is pitching - innocent or guilty. What do you suppose was going over his vocal chords to create the sound of Garner saying he couldn't breathe? Unicorn farts? I would think you don't have to take it literally . I could understand that he was having trouble breathing, not the complete lack of oxygen entering his lungs.
have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
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You might want to read previous posts...when you get up off them, is when they try to kill you. If you feel your job is too dangerous, they can always use more ditch diggers.
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If we could kill more of these ass holes, we would need more ditch diggers.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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You might want to read previous posts...when you get up off them, is when they try to kill you.
Oh, and if you are a teacher..the word is 'breathe'..... I thought it was 'breeve'? Screw this guy. Nobody made him eat 14 Big Macs a day.
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but homicide isn't defined by intent, but actions or lack of actions
Soooooo....why exactly do we have First Degree Homicide, Second Degree Homicide, Manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter etc etc....? as I understand it Homicide is the generic term to describe when one person kills another person, regardless if it was intentional, unintentional, pre-meditated or not-pre-meditated. Murder, however, deals with the malicious intent to commit a killing. could be wrong but that is my understanding Please, answer his question.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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SNORK! 
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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If we could ************************* if you really are in law enforcement, I would delete that
have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
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You might want to read previous posts...when you get up off them, is when they try to kill you. If you feel your job is too dangerous, they can always use more ditch diggers. And, you do exactly what for a living?
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I thought it was 'breeve'?
You are absolutely right. So when they inhale once, is that a single 'breff'? 
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The "can't breeve" fat guy, "gentle giant", and Trayvon Martin all have one theme that binds them. And no, it's NOT their skin color... The simple fact is that none of these guys would have died if they had chosen to NOT let the attitude of thug culture rule them.
When confronted, we have a choice and have control over our response and actions.
If you really believe LEO is doing you wrong, one has the option of complaining later to the correct authority. However, choosing to resist and/or fight with LEO's will NEVER end well.
It's rare that someone ends up dead through resisting arrest, but extra charges are a certainty......who needs that?
I've never dealt with a cop over anything more than a traffic violation, but being pulled over is definitely an annoyance. My gut reaction is probably familiar to anyone who has ever been pulled over, "GFY! I don't need this sheit! Shouldn't you be spending time on real crimes instead of hassling folks going a couple miles over the posted speed limit???"
Ultimately I know if I want it over quickly, easily and as painlessly as possible, a smile and attitude adjustment 180 degrees from my "gut response" is my best path to being back on my way.
Angry, bad attitude, and belligerence certainly makes for "tough guy" imagery as depicted in movies and rap music... but real life isn't scripted that way! In real life, you take this attitude with a LEO in the performance of his/her job and you're going to lose! ALWAYS!
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Here's a hypothetical question that's very different from determining if the cop(s) were right or wrong or innocent or guilty.
Would it have been a miscarriage of justice if the GJ returned a decision to indict?
In Darren Wilson's case it would been unjust to put an innocent man on trial but this one I'm not so sure about.
This case is undeniably controversial.
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If we could ************************* if you really are in law enforcement, I would delete that I'm really in retirement.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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If we could ************************* if you really are in law enforcement, I would delete that 1) He's retired. 2) He can say whatever he wants under the First Amendment. You still haven't answered his question.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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If we could ************************* if you really are in law enforcement, I would delete that 1) He's retired. 2) He can say whatever he wants under the First Amendment. You still haven't answered his question. Yeah...and if I want Moderated on this forum, I'll ask Deflave to do it.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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If we could ************************* if you really are in law enforcement, I would delete that I'm really in retirement. ahh...well carry on. wasn't trying to be a jerk, you just never know what will come back on you
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You might want to read previous posts...when you get up off them, is when they try to kill you. If you feel your job is too dangerous, they can always use more ditch diggers. Is that why you left teaching?
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"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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You might want to read previous posts...when you get up off them, is when they try to kill you. If you feel your job is too dangerous, they can always use more ditch diggers. Is that why you left teaching? Did TRH leave teaching??? Just as well...he could'nt spell 'breeve'.....
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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