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anyone know where the parralax is set on the SWFA 1-4?
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anyone know where the parralax is set on the SWFA 1-4? 100 yards.
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The Weaver Classic Extreme 1.5-4.5X us a good choice. It was made for Weaver in Japan, has a life time warranty, and is a darn good piece of glass. I think Natchez shooters is the only dealer for them. I had a Wilson Combat Lightweight Hunter 6.8mm with an Accupoint 1.5-4.5 with the amber reticle and it was a great scope but at half the price I have been running the Weaver Extreme on a .300 Blackout and it has been fantastic.
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Thanks I hope I can use the milquad DM reticle, it looked a bit busy to me but for $313 delivered gots to try it, should be here next week.
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My SWFA 1-4x 2ndFP arrived yesterday. Turrets have that "Nightforce" feel. VERY postive. I like the reticle. One slight dissapointment is the diamond only has the faintest hint of red in full sun. Move the scope to view into any shadow and the red is visible. The much more expensive FFP 1-4x with the Circle reticle looks like an Eotech in full sun. The reticle still works fine as is. I'm curious to see how long the reticle will stay illuminated. I'm going to just leave it on till its dead. The high-dollar 1-4x's super-bright reticle lasts about a week if left on.
This looks like it might be the go-to scope for an AR/truck-gun/short-bolt gun/truck gun. Time will tell.
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How does the Leupold AR 1" scope stack up?
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I've got a Trijicon Accupoint 1-4x with the green dot German No. 4 on my suppressed shorty. I really like it. No complaints.
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http://www.natchezss.com/product.cf...amp;prodID=WE800701&prodTitle=Weaver 1.5-4.5X24 Classic Extreme Riflescope Ill. German#4 Reticle Matte those weavers on sale for 229. Hard to ignore.
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I don't know which Weaver it was, but it was a 1.5-? that I looked through recently at the range. It was a good example of how not all 1xish scopes are equal. The eyebox was horrible and the FOV was tiny. At the $250ish that the guy spent I'd've just kept shooting irons and saving up money.
The Weaver linked above has 65' FOV vs. the 97' for the Trijicon. For what a 1xish is used for, that extra 50% is a big deal to me.
Level of importance to me: 1-Eyebox 2-FOV 3-Magnification power
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I don't know which Weaver it was, but it was a 1.5-? that I looked through recently at the range. It was a good example of how not all 1xish scopes are equal. The eyebox was horrible and the FOV was tiny. At the $250ish that the guy spent I'd've just kept shooting irons and saving up money.
The Weaver linked above has 65' FOV vs. the 97' for the Trijicon. For what a 1xish is used for, that extra 50% is a big deal to me.
Level of importance to me: 1-Eyebox 2-FOV 3-Magnification power Thanks for the heads up.
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My 2 cents. The only one I've tried to any extent is the Leupold 1.25-4X VX-R Patrol. Over the years, I played with and shot lots of 2-2.5X scopes, either fixed magnification or variables. I really hadn't noticed much difference in speed of target acquisition between them and the excellent 4X Leupolds, mostly because of the big eye boxes of the 4X Leupolds. But this 1.25-4X is easily faster. It's got every bit as much eye box as the 4X Leupolds when set at 1.25X and a really quick reticle that makes the job much easier to do. Slap that tactical circle over the target and send it. All in the blink or an eye. The illuminated dot shows up in bright sun. It isn't needed, thanks to the excellent reticle design, but it can be used. The scope's eye box at 4X isn't as large as the 4X Leupolds, but it works well enough. What's more, the scope allows quick ranging due to it's reticle design when set at 4X. Last of all, the adjustmetns have worked perfectly every time. E
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compared the VX-6 1-6 with the SWFA 1-4 both at 3X at 6PM this evening. Easily a lot more scope around the image in the SWFA, easily less fuzzy at dark with the VX-6, easily the better aiming point in the 6, bigger FOV in the 6, easier to find the image in the 6, hand held....but for less than 1/3 the money the SWFA is really looking pretty good, decent glass, can see the reticle OK, don't look to bad. Will see what develops.
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compared the VX-6 1-6 with the SWFA 1-4 both at 3X at 6PM this evening. Easily a lot more scope around the image in the SWFA, easily less fuzzy at dark with the VX-6, easily the better aiming point in the 6, bigger FOV in the 6, easier to find the image in the 6, hand held....but for less than 1/3 the money the SWFA is really looking pretty good, decent glass, can see the reticle OK, don't look to bad. Will see what develops. It's not really fair to compare the SWFA 1-4 to a Leupold VX-6, but it would be fun to shoot the SWFA against the Leupold Mark AR, or VX-2 1-4 for a more fair comparison.
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We'll have to compare your VX-6 to my SWFA 1-6HD
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no fairness intended, both have their Raison d'�tre.
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compared the VX-6 1-6 with the SWFA 1-4 both at 3X at 6PM this evening. Easily a lot more scope around the image in the SWFA, easily less fuzzy at dark with the VX-6, easily the better aiming point in the 6, bigger FOV in the 6, easier to find the image in the 6, hand held....but for less than 1/3 the money the SWFA is really looking pretty good, decent glass, can see the reticle OK, don't look to bad. Will see what develops. I bought the cheaper version SWFA 1-4 but don't have it mounted up or tested out yet. Howzit going with your's now you had it a while???
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Same old story, Leupold has a better image, SWFA is more consistent.
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I shot with a T&E model of Steiner's new 1-4 and fell in love. It was just as crisp and clear as my VX6, the dot is aimpoint bright, huge FOV and eyebox, and the street price should be around $500.
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When will it be available.
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