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So I've been wanting a new, lightweight rifle. My others are Remingtons with one Ruger in the mix. They all weigh between low 8 lbs to about 9 1/2 lbs.
I would like to have one that weighs 7 lb or less all up.
I have been thinking about the following. I know there are a lot of differences in them, but what do you think.
1. Build on a remington. Will probably be spendy after machine work and still purchasing a nice stock.
2. TIKKA-
3. Kimber Montana
4. MRC-XWR-Haven't handled this one, only there ASR.
Am looking at either 30-06 or 300 Winnie. I want to stick with .308 caliber on this one.
OK let er rip. Opinions please.
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Stick a Remington MR into an Edge stock. With a normal size Leupold scope and Talley rings, you'll come in under 7 pounds.
I'd say Kimber if you were going 308.
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The MRC IIRC is nearly your weight sans scope and mounts. I would be you will be closer to 8+ lbs with that one.
I agree with Steelhead above. MR tube, edge stock for a quick route to get there. The 8400 Kimber montanas are not in the same league as their short action brethren.
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My M700 in 30-06 weighs 7lb 8oz empty. Is that close enough? Didn't do any metal work so it could have been less if I were so inclined. Custom syn stock fitted to me, Leupold Ultralight 3-9. It aint pretty but it works.
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Sako Finnlight in 300 WSM, Swarovski 3-10x42, composite stock weighs 7.1
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#2.
Everything else is dropping serious money to get the others to shoot like a Tikka.
I have a lite fluted in 308 that meets all of your criteria and was under $700 all up and shoots bug holes.
Remington? Really? How much money do you have to spend? Hopefully lots.
Kimber - some shine, others not so much. 100% of the Tikkas I've shot (upwards of 20?) were hammers out of the box.
Others? See notes on Remington
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The 8400 Kimber montanas are not in the same league as their short action brethren. Why is that? Would you explain please?
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One thing with the MRC, is that with the new stock it will be about 6 oz less than what the weight on they're website says. And possibly cut 2 inches of barrel off to make it 22" with the 30-06.
Not decided on that, just throwing it out there.
Also, whats it cost to get into a McMillian Edge or something like it? $600 or so
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A 7 lb all up 300 Win Mag has bad idea written all over it. Even a 30-06 at that weight is more than most can handle. If really intent on that weight, you might think about dropping down to a 308.
Also, I�m assuming your �all up� reference means with sling and full mag. Otherwise add half a pound to come up with the all up weight.
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A 7 lb all up 300 Win Mag has bad idea written all over it. Even a 30-06 at that weight is more than most can handle. If really intent on that weight, you might think about dropping down to a 308.
Also, I�m assuming your �all up� reference means with sling and full mag. Otherwise add half a pound to come up with the all up weight. Here is a Weatherby Bacik Country in .300 Win Mag with a Leupold 3-9x33 Compact in Talley mounts; Recoil is not objectionable (to me), and I am of just average height with a relatively slim build. It is a pleasure to carry and is about as accurate as any rifle that I own.
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7 1/2 is not a problem recoil-wise in a 30-06. The stock just needs to fit well and have a good pad.
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Prairie Goat, I'm not worried about recoil. Although, something too severe can be quite uncomfortable. Usually, don't notice when shooting at a critter.
Mudhen, Sweet setup you got there. I just put one of those Ultralight, 2-7, on my 350 rem mag. Nice lightweight little scopes.
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Blacktailer,
What kind of stock are you running?
Haven't heard much about the Tikka Lite in 30-06 kicking to bad.
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The 8400 Kimber montanas are not in the same league as their short action brethren. Why is that? Would you explain please? I have a Montana in .300 WSM and it would be one of the last shooters that I would let go. donsm70
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Prairie Goat, I'm not worried about recoil. Although, something too severe can be quite uncomfortable. Usually, don't notice when shooting at a critter.
Mudhen, Sweet setup you got there. I just put one of those Ultralight, 2-7, on my 350 rem mag. Nice lightweight little scopes. You should be worried about recoil. But what the hell do I know. I�ve only seen a couple thousand hunters come through camp, and about 2 out of 10 who brought 300 mags could shoot a 300 Mag accurately. Those were usually in 8-9 lb. rifles. The guys shooting light 300 mags were basically guaranteed to screw up.
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I've never held a 84M, but rumor has it they're a good deal more svelte than the 8400's.
I've got an 8400 in .300 WM, that goes just under 7#, 12 oz with a Conquest in Talleys. The stock handles recoil surprisingly well, but I'd not want to go much lighter. I can manage OK with 168's, but 180's and up get a bit too sporty for me.
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PrairieGoat, Not trying to ruffle feathers here. I appreciate everyone's opinion. I've not been through your camp, so don't know what that involves. It does make sense that a hot loaded magnum in a light rifle will come with more severe recoil than a standard chambering.
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Just for reference, a factory stock Model 700 .30-06 standard sporter contour barrel in a 22 ounce Brown Precision stock with Talleys and a Leupold 4x scope weighs 7 lbs 2 oz. Recoil is brisk but not painful in the least with a good recoil pad. A short action .308 Model 700, again with a standard 22" factory sporter barrel, weighs 6 lb 15 oz set up the same.
An out of the box Tikka .223 with factory rings and a Leupold VX 2 3-9 scope weighs 7 lb 4 oz even. Take away 2 ounces for a 4x scope and about 6 ounces for a cylinder of stainless steel 22" long with roughly .084" thick walls and that's around what a Tikka .30-06 would weigh.
Don't know much about Kimber Montanas.
The MRC is a heavy action, anything on that action with a decent barrel and scope would end up heavier than a Remington.
Tikka would be the cheapest and easiest way to meet your goal.
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how about a model 70 fwt in a mcm edge, depending how you scope it you can be pretty close to your target weight, if not I'd just buy and kimber and give it a whirl.
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The 8400 Kimber montanas are not in the same league as their short action brethren. Why is that? Would you explain please? The 8400 magnum Montana is nearly 7 lbs for the bare rifle (6# 13oz). compared to the 5# 6oz 84M Montana. Simply, the 8400 loses a good deal of the qualities of the 84M
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