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Looking for suggestions for an of the shelf rifle. I will be shooting paper and gopher as well as the odd coyote. Thinking something in a 22-250.
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Get a .223 for gophers, eh? Otherwise you'll smoke the barrel. And if you can, the Savages with the accustock and accutrigger seem to be excellent out of the box. Both those I've done (I have Savages of prior vintage and they worked out fantastic) merely needed to be broke in and then started drilling holes. In fact, the 223 has never even been out of the stock -- and it shoots half-inch on a bad day.
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CZ Varmint Kevlar in 223 (or 204).
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I would go with Field, a CZ.. Savages maybe fine, but I cannot stand their looks.. But that doesn't make them bad, just ugly.. I would also go with a wood stock, but this again is personal preference.. For what you describe, the .223 would be perfect.. I have had a long time love affair with the big cased .22's, but for punching paper, gophers, and an occasional coyote, the .223 is the way to go..
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I would go with Field, a CZ.. Savages maybe fine, but I cannot stand their looks.. But that doesn't make them bad, just ugly.. I would also go with a wood stock, but this again is personal preference.. For what you describe, the .223 would be perfect.. I have had a long time love affair with the big cased .22's, but for punching paper, gophers, and an occasional coyote, the .223 is the way to go.. Ya know WCH,,,,, 99% of the time I'd agree with you about wood stocks (that's all I own) but for some reason I like the CZ Varmint with the Kevlar stock better. I actually bought a wood stocked Varminter but I prefer my buddy's Kevlar. For a sporter I'll take the wood stocked American every time hands down but the OP indicated that the main duty would be paper and Gofers so the heavier barrel's not a bad idea IMO. Either way the CZ with it's set trigger and reputation for accuracy's hard to beat for the price. Next choice would be a Sako or Kimber but they're near twice the price.
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Savage CZ Tikka Ruger Sako Montanna Really depends on the $$ you want to spend.
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I'd also vote for the .223 rem. Ruger Hawkeye to be exact...
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Savage in .204 Ruger or CZ 527 if you can swing it...
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It DOES depend on what you want to spend. I like the Coopers and have a Varmint Extreme in 223 and 25WSSM and just ordered one in 220 Swift. I have a Rem 700 22-250 that will litterly punch one ragged hole at 100 yards, the only modification was a trigger job.
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I'd also vote for the .223 rem. Ruger Hawkeye to be exact... Another good choice. ^^^^^ Just wish they had a little better trigger but that's easily remedied and anything's better than that stupid Accu Trigger (IMO).
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Looking for suggestions for an of the shelf rifle. I will be shooting paper and gopher as well as the odd coyote. Thinking something in a 22-250. I would purchase a new Howa in .223. The new Howa's are twisted 1-9". Travis
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I have a Remington 700 in .22-250 beautiful wood stock, accurate as all get out. just my .02 cents
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Any Remington 700 varmint.
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223....all depends on what you want to spend.
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I would look at the Rem 700 series. The action has been around for decades and the triggers are easy to adjust.
The actual model and caliber depends.....................on how you want to use the rifle and how far will most of your shots be?
You could go from a "walk around" hunting rifle with a 22-24" normal weight barrel to a varmint/target rifle with a 26" bull barrel. Weight vs. expected use is the formula.
If you are going to be hunting a lot at extended yardages and may want to use the rifle for some types of big game hunting a 22-250 fits the agenda just fine. If it's most a plinker and some hunting involved but not at extreme distances a .223 is great.
I've got varmint rigs set up in .223, 22-250, and .243 depending on the application is the one I select. I love the 22-250, use the .243 for super long hunting shots, and find myself grabbing a .223 a lot more than I planned. I also have used my AR-15 for some hunting applications with reloads and it has been swell
Ammo/reloading will always be more plentiful and cheaper with the .223.
Pick the way you will use the rifle the most and the caliber that best fits your needs. Have fun in the process.
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At one time I thought I would try coyote hunting and bought a Weatherby ultra light in 22-250. That as an extremely accurate and light rifle. I called it Mikey from the kid I the old cereal commercials because any load I used was accurate. Sadly I traded it off towards a re 64 M70 std 243.
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CZ Varmint Kevlar in 223 (or 204).
Close thread. Come on ------------------- this is a little blunt isn't it! By the way, I tend to agree. Though I do allow for a little leeway on stock to meet preference of purchaser.
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This has been one of the most "fun" rifles i've owned. BDL 17rem
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rosco just tossed up one of the greatest factory rifles ever produced.
A true gem.
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This has been one of the most "fun" rifles i've owned. BDL 17rem Nice... A buddy of mine has one exactly like that, same scope and everything. He swears by it.
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Looking for suggestions for an of the shelf rifle. I will be shooting paper and gopher as well as the odd coyote. Thinking something in a 22-250. I would purchase a new Howa in .223. The new Howa's are twisted 1-9". Travis I have one of those Howa rifles with the DBM. It's gonna become a 17 Remington I believe
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Don't know how much Brownings go for up there, but if possible I'd get one of those new fast-twist .22-250 Predator X-bolts (synthetic camo stock, medium-weight/length barrel), then load up some lighter bullets for gophers and also the heaviest ones that will still fit the dbm for coyotes. Then again, I hear you can buy Tikka Varmints chambered in .243 up there. I'd own one of those for longer-range 'yotes in the wind (you can hunt wolves, too, can't you?); and also one in .204 for varmints.
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Thinking something in a 22-250. Start looking in the internet or gun shows for a late 60s early 70s era Remington 700 Varmint special. They have a great trigger that can be tweeked and their heavy barrel accuracy is almost on a par with a custom rifle. Just an example. http://www.armslist.com/posts/15539...rmint-special--22-250--exlnt-condition--They're great shooters. I've had them in 22-250- 7/08 and 308
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Several rifles I'd consider. The Ruger 77 (not "American") Predator looks good. Remington 700 SPS is ok. I'm moving away from heavy varminters as calling rifles.
Cartridge-wise, I'm a .204 fan. For varmints it has the reach of a standard twist .22-250 with the recoil and appetite of a .223. .17 Remington is another favorite.
Wish Remington would bring back the LVSF only add XCR coating to make it even better yet.
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Just today I placed an order for a new Browning Gold Medallion in .223 with an 8 twist. After reading so much about what the .223's will do with heavier bullets I decided to try one and see for myself. I understand that with the 8 twist I should be able to shoot 75 gr. Amax bullets. Is this correct?
I've been told it may take a few weeks for the rifle to be delivered but this is okay since I do little shooting in the cold weather. Hopefully it will get here in time for the warmer weather in late April or early May.
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