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M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! #9642620 02/27/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado For those of you that don't like the clubby B&C stock that comes on the M70 Extreme Weathers, there's another option without spending McMillan type money. I recently ordered a B&C Stock from Redhawk rifles for a newly acquired M70 and this stock I recieved is not the same B&C that's on the extreme weathers, the grip is much thinner as is the fore end. It actually feels like a first gen Ti stock. I'll try to get a weight on it as it feels pretty light, well under 2lbs. If you already knew this then I'm late to the game but I am tickled pink with it and figured I'd pass it on. Here's the link to the stocks, I ordered the SA version. http://www.redhawkrifles.com/products/stocks/bellcarlson/sporterstocks/winchesterarms

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9642642 02/27/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado Weight is roughly 27oz

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9642655 02/27/15 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 14,104 Boot Heel of New Mexico mudhen Campfire Outfitter mudhen Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2005 Posts: 14,104 Boot Heel of New Mexico Good to know. Thanks! Ben Some days it takes most of the day for me to do practically nothing...

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9642715 02/27/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born Originally Posted by AlaskaCub For those of you that don't like the clubby B&C stock that comes on the M70 Extreme Weathers, there's another option without spending McMillan type money. I recently ordered a B&C Stock from Redhawk rifles for a newly acquired M70 and this stock I recieved is not the same B&C that's on the extreme weathers, the grip is much thinner as is the fore end. It actually feels like a first gen Ti stock. I'll try to get a weight on it as it feels pretty light, well under 2lbs. If you already knew this then I'm late to the game but I am tickled pink with it and figured I'd pass it on. Here's the link to the stocks, I ordered the SA version. http://www.redhawkrifles.com/products/stocks/bellcarlson/sporterstocks/winchesterarms That appears to be a medalist stock, which is what Winchester uses on the extreme weather. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the same stock????? Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9642750 02/27/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado I don't know what is going on here, but I know that this is not the same stocks that have been on the m70 EW's I've handled. It seems that my research turned up that the EW stocks were pretty close to 2 lbs and when I read the specs on Stockys stocks website the description listed it at 28oz , they didn't have the color I wanted so I cross checked the stock part # at RedHawks and took the gamble. If someone with an EW stock has some measurements I can compare. I just know I've owned several B&C's on Rem's and Tikkas's and this one feels more like the trimmer 1st gen Ti stocks I've had.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9642761 02/27/15 Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska B bearstalker Campfire Outfitter bearstalker Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska How much weight savings compared to the BC stocks on the EW rifles?

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! bearstalker #9642773 02/27/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado Originally Posted by bearstalker How much weight savings compared to the BC stocks on the EW rifles? I don't have the weight of a BC on an EW from Win, I just know in my hands this stock is different. In addition I'm gonna need to hog out the barrel channel a bit for fitment. Last edited by AlaskaCub; 02/27/15.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9642775 02/27/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born AlaskaCub, I'm wondering if they also changed the stocks on the new Winchester EW? You would think a Medalist is a medalist is a medalist. Yes or no? Were you handeling a SA stock, because the SA EW stocks are said to be a little more slender than the LA EW stocks. At least that's the word on the streets.. Weight has also never been a real concern with the EW stocks, but bulkiness has been. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9642779 02/27/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado I don't know man, it's possible. All I know is that each and every time I've handled an EW I could never get over the stock and the idea of paying $900 + for it knowing that I would want to replace the stock turned me off of them. I've got smallish hands and the ones I've handled felt like clubs in my hands.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! bearstalker #9642795 02/27/15 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,179 Likes: 1 On the Santa Fe Trail T taylorce1 Campfire Tracker taylorce1 Campfire Tracker T Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,179 Likes: 1 On the Santa Fe Trail Originally Posted by bearstalker How much weight savings compared to the BC stocks on the EW rifles? My EW is a long action and a bedded M70 FWT stock with edge fill weighed 25oz and the unbedded EW stock weighed 30oz. I paid around $500 for my Mickey second hand and after I sold the EW stock for $150 it wasn't much of a difference.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9642797 02/27/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born I hear you. I have big mitts and the factory EW stock felt like crap to me as well. Mine was on a LA though... My buddies 300 WSM SA didn't feel as bulky for some reason.. My 30-06 got put into a McMillan edge in a big hurry. I knew I hated the factory stick and had a Micky in the mail as the rifle was shipped to me. If this Medalist stock is different in a good way, it may be worth a look, as it is quite a bit cheaper than a Micky... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9642994 02/28/15 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,947 Likes: 5 Georgia J JMR40 Campfire Outfitter JMR40 Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,947 Likes: 5 Georgia The EW stock that came from the factory on my 308 is the B&C Medalist. It was 28 or 29 OZ IIRC. The standard Medalist stocks are 36-40 oz, but they offer what they call a lightweight for the Winchester and Vanguard. They are slightly under 30 oz. A standard weight McMillan is 30-32 oz and the Edge is usually 20-24 oz. I used it as it came from the factory for year before running across someone selling a used Edge stock in the classifieds here at a good price. After selling the take off factory stock I only have about $300 in the Edge. Makes a HUGE difference. I forget the exact weight of the Edge, but the complete rifle including Leupold 2.5-8X36 scope and Talley mounts is 7b lbs 5 oz. It's not just the weight, the feel and balance is much better. Most people don't really want the truth. They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643040 02/28/15 Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,766 Likes: 1 Montana T toad Campfire Tracker toad Campfire Tracker T Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,766 Likes: 1 Montana my Medalist from a few years ago the Redhawk stock. hard to tell, but I hope they slimmed them down. I find the Medalist usable, but the Remington version is slimmer/trimmer in my paws. I also did not know about the lightweight version of the M70 Medalist. Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643206 02/28/15 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1 16bore Campfire Ranger 16bore Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 Been there, done that. Redhawk BC. Hope your inlet is better than this POS was. Best thing I ever did was load 50 rounds of 130 NPT's and throw this thing in the back of the safe for a backup/loaner...

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! toad #9643252 02/28/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado Originally Posted by toad hard to tell, but I hope they slimmed them down. I find the Medalist usable, but the Remington version is slimmer/trimmer in my paws. I also did not know about the lightweight version of the M70 Medalist. That title of lightweight is what caught my eye and peeked my interest, rolled the dice and am glad I did. Inletting is very good but I do need to hog out some material Near the shank because of the magnum barrel.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! toad #9643267 02/28/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado Originally Posted by toad my Medalist from a few years ago the Redhawk stock. My stock does not look like the pic above on RedHawks site, that's the clubby ones. I'm thinking they redesigned them.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643284 02/28/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born I'm with JMR40 on this (always have been). I was into a used (couldn't tell it from new) Mcmillan for $400.00 I believe, after selling the EW stock, a person can be into a Micky for $250.00 if they get a real good deal on a used edge or even standard fill hunters compact for that matter. I like them both regardless, but some rifles handle/balance a little better with the standard fill vs. the edge fill. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643291 02/28/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born Originally Posted by AlaskaCub Originally Posted by toad my Medalist from a few years ago the Redhawk stock. My stock does not look like the pic above on RedHawks site, that's the clubby ones. I'm thinking they redesigned them. Post a picture my friend. It's worth a thousand words. The stock you posted from that site looks like the same ol medalist which comes on the EW... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643306 02/28/15 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1 16bore Campfire Ranger 16bore Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 McMillan is a bargain at full retail.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643321 02/28/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born I love the Mcmillan's and have always got extremely lucky and found exactly what I've wanted on the used market.. No wait and much less coin.. However, if I HAD to buy new I'd do it in a heartbeat... Guns aren't just a hobby to me, they are an investment.. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643340 02/28/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado I agree with both of you that the Edges are great stocks and I've bought several of them. But when a really good deal isn't currently in the classifieds and you don't feel like, waiting 6 mos this newer design or whatever it is , is a good option. Unless Win has done an actual redesign on the B&C that they have been offering in the EW's this is not the same stock that's on the EW's that's all I'm trying to relay to you guys. This rifle weighs 6lbs 8 oz and 6lbs 10 oz on the two scales I checked it on and that's with a EGW 20 MOA rail mounted. according to Win this rifle in this caliber should weigh 7 lbs empty.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643411 02/28/15 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 Originally Posted by AlaskaCub For those of you that don't like the clubby B&C stock that comes on the M70 Extreme Weathers, there's another option without spending McMillan type money. I recently ordered a B&C Stock from Redhawk rifles for a newly acquired M70 and this stock I recieved is not the same B&C that's on the extreme weathers, the grip is much thinner as is the fore end. It actually feels like a first gen Ti stock. I'll try to get a weight on it as it feels pretty light, well under 2lbs. If you already knew this then I'm late to the game but I am tickled pink with it and figured I'd pass it on. Here's the link to the stocks, I ordered the SA version. http://www.redhawkrifles.com/products/stocks/bellcarlson/sporterstocks/winchesterarms I think B&C redid the medalist stock and it is called the medalist classic with checkering ??????????? I have a brand new EW I picked up last week .264 and the stock feels a bit clubby but will live with it . They had 3 264;s come in at the same time and they all looked the same every last one of them. I think eventually I would get a replacement if I could find a edge stock that balances with a 26" barrel stocky link Last edited by Oldelkhunter; 02/28/15.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! bsa1917hunter #9643454 02/28/15 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,612 NC MGunns Campfire Regular MGunns Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,612 NC Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter AlaskaCub, I'm wondering if they also changed the stocks on the new Winchester EW? You would think a Medalist is a medalist is a medalist. Yes or no? Were you handeling a SA stock, because the SA EW stocks are said to be a little more slender than the LA EW stocks. At least that's the word on the streets.. Weight has also never been a real concern with the EW stocks, but bulkiness has been. I've noticed a difference between the LA and SA also with the SA feeling trimmer.....

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643514 02/28/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born Originally Posted by AlaskaCub I agree with both of you that the Edges are great stocks and I've bought several of them. But when a really good deal isn't currently in the classifieds and you don't feel like, waiting 6 mos this newer design or whatever it is , is a good option. Unless Win has done an actual redesign on the B&C that they have been offering in the EW's this is not the same stock that's on the EW's that's all I'm trying to relay to you guys. This rifle weighs 6lbs 8 oz and 6lbs 10 oz on the two scales I checked it on and that's with a EGW 20 MOA rail mounted. according to Win this rifle in this caliber should weigh 7 lbs empty. That's good info right there. Do you have pics of the stock? Sounds lighter and trimmer to me. The medalist's are a strong stock with the aluminum bedding block, but we know some of the other offerings from that company come up short. The important thing here: Does it work well for you? If yes, keep using it!!!! I'm all for going less expensive every chance I get, trust me. I use the hell out of factory Winchester tupperwares too, but they are heavier than mcmillans, they are also not as strong, but when properly glass bedded the rifles shoot like a house afire and I don't have to invest in the Mcmillan to have a great all purpose rifle. You got to make you happy when it comes to your rifle choices, no one else!!! Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! bsa1917hunter #9643620 02/28/15 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 This thread made me take the EW out of the safe and break it down Rifle on a postal scale is 7 lbs 6 ounces The Stock weighs 31.6 ounces 264 win mag with a 26" barrel Can;t get the trigger below 3 lbs so I might or might not get a Ernie spring since the 3 lbs is very crisp

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! Oldelkhunter #9643628 02/28/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter This thread made me take the EW out of the safe and break it down Rifle on a postal scale is 7 lbs 6 ounces The Stock weighs 31.6 ounces 264 win mag with a 26" barrel Can;t get the trigger below 3 lbs so I might or might not get a Ernie spring since the 3 lbs is very crisp That's pretty good with a factory MOA. The best I could ever do was 3.5 pounds. I replaced all of mine with the erniethegunsmith spring and got the majority down to a clean 2.5 and my favorite was one I recently sold (2008 limited edition). I was able to get that one down to 2 3/8 pounds. Very crisp clean trigger that broke like a glass rod.. As a matter of fact, I think the OP of this thread has that rifle now... He can probably comment on the trigger on that rifle.. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643645 02/28/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born OP, if that's the 2008 limited edition with the EW tube you are having cerakoted, you are going to love that rifle!! It's a great shooting sombeesh. Can't wait to see the pictures of the rifle when you are done with it... I also have the original barrel from that rifle. It was shot to confirm it was damn accurate (only has 40 rounds fired through it) and then I pulled it off and had my smith put that EW tube on it. My smith is a class act and did an excellent job on that one. If you shoot the EW tube out, you know where the original tube is for your rifle... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! bsa1917hunter #9643680 02/28/15 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter OP, if that's the 2008 limited edition with the EW tube you are having cerakoted, you are going to love that rifle!! It's a great shooting sombeesh. Can't wait to see the pictures of the rifle when you are done with it... I also have the original barrel from that rifle. It was shot to confirm it was damn accurate (only has 40 rounds fired through it) and then I pulled it off and had my smith put that EW tube on it. My smith is a class act and did an excellent job on that one. If you shoot the EW tube out, you know where the original tube is for your rifle... Good infö will order one . I like 2.5-2.75 pull weight. What do you torque the stock down to? I went 45 inch lbs today.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643697 02/28/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado bas is correct this rifle has a very nice crisp trigger,

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! Oldelkhunter #9643811 02/28/15 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,359 D drano 25 Campfire Regular drano 25 Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,359 Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter Originally Posted by AlaskaCub For those of you that don't like the clubby B&C stock that comes on the M70 Extreme Weathers, there's another option without spending McMillan type money. I recently ordered a B&C Stock from Redhawk rifles for a newly acquired M70 and this stock I recieved is not the same B&C that's on the extreme weathers, the grip is much thinner as is the fore end. It actually feels like a first gen Ti stock. I'll try to get a weight on it as it feels pretty light, well under 2lbs. If you already knew this then I'm late to the game but I am tickled pink with it and figured I'd pass it on. Here's the link to the stocks, I ordered the SA version. http://www.redhawkrifles.com/products/stocks/bellcarlson/sporterstocks/winchesterarms I think B&C redid the medalist stock and it is called the medalist classic with checkering ??????????? I have a brand new EW I picked up last week .264 and the stock feels a bit clubby but will live with it . They had 3 264;s come in at the same time and they all looked the same every last one of them. I think eventually I would get a replacement if I could find a edge stock that balances with a 26" barrel stocky link This appears to be correct looking at the stocky's link. These are checkered. I noticed that stocky's only lists a SA model for the Model 70. I have a standard medalist on a 700 LA. It is very clubby feeling in the grip, and fairly slick without checkering. I may sell it and get one of these to get a first hand opinion of just what's up with this B&C 'classic' checkered. Even if it is still clubby, with the checkering the I see no reason it wouldn't be an upgrade from both clubby and slick. *edit* Scratch the idea of ordering a CDL style checkered one for any reason if the listed weight of 39 ounces is accurate. Last edited by drano 25; 02/28/15. Don't speculate when you don't know, and don't second guess when you do.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9643844 02/28/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado Just another tidbit,the grip area of this stock I got is exactly 5" in circumference, I believe that the BC on the EW's has a 5.5" circumference on the grip.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9644229 02/28/15 Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska B bearstalker Campfire Outfitter bearstalker Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska Originally Posted by AlaskaCub I agree with both of you that the Edges are great stocks and I've bought several of them. But when a really good deal isn't currently in the classifieds and you don't feel like, waiting 6 mos this newer design or whatever it is , is a good option. Unless Win has done an actual redesign on the B&C that they have been offering in the EW's this is not the same stock that's on the EW's that's all I'm trying to relay to you guys. This rifle weighs 6lbs 8 oz and 6lbs 10 oz on the two scales I checked it on and that's with a EGW 20 MOA rail mounted. according to Win this rifle in this caliber should weigh 7 lbs empty. What cartridge did you get? Can you post a picture? 6 lb. 8 oz. sounds very nice.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! bearstalker #9644279 02/28/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado 300WSM

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9644393 02/28/15 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 18,080 GA, USA ready_on_the_right Campfire Ranger ready_on_the_right Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 18,080 GA, USA Saw an EW in .25-06 the other day and having never handled one asked to see it, seemed like the handgrip area was too short for me! Like a pocket auto that needs a pinky extender or something. Loved the SS, trigger and fluted barrel. Mike God, Family, and Country. NRA Endowment Member

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9644863 02/28/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born Originally Posted by AlaskaCub 300WSM That rifle looks great buddy!! Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9644947 02/28/15 Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska B bearstalker Campfire Outfitter bearstalker Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska Originally Posted by AlaskaCub 300WSM Dang, that looks really good. So, how long before we can see it in the classifieds? I know you will.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9646537 03/01/15 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 Comparing this stock with my own, it seems that the fluting starts further up the barrel channel in your stock then it does on my factory EW. Forrend is either shorter or the fluting pattern is longer on the short actions.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! bearstalker #9647074 03/01/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado Originally Posted by bearstalker [quote=AlaskaCub] Dang, that looks really good. So, how long before we can see it in the classifieds? I know you will. You must know me!.....grin

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! Oldelkhunter #9647111 03/01/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter Comparing this stock with my own, it seems that the fluting starts further up the barrel channel in your stock then it does on my factory EW. Forrend is either shorter or the fluting pattern is longer on the short actions. Good catch, here's the same rifle when it was in the Mcmillan hunters compact and we all know the hunter compact has a pretty short forend...: That stock has to be shorter than the std EW medalist... Here's another EW in a hunters compact edge stock for comparison as well: VS. original B&C medalist factory EW stock: Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9647275 03/01/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado Yup that appears to be it. In addition to being shorter it's leaner too.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9647444 03/01/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born I could probably deal with that much better than the EW medalist... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! JMR40 #9647744 03/01/15 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,287 Likes: 1 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,287 Likes: 1 This is how I'd roll, and it's one of my favorite Campfire rifles to boot. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9649258 03/02/15 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 Originally Posted by AlaskaCub Yup that appears to be it. In addition to being shorter it's leaner too. Sales Rep AT Stocky's said the stock she had in hand L/A weighed 30 ounces and was 30" long.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9649420 03/02/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado You can examine the stock I got and the factory EW that bsa posted side by side and see differences. The angle off the back side of the grip, the height of the butt portion behind the grip all the way to the pad. The grip thickness and of course it's shorter like the compact version from McM. I couldn't nail it at first but this is definately trimmer and it's obvious in the hand. Needless to say I am just happy I got what I got!

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9650467 03/02/15 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 Originally Posted by AlaskaCub You can examine the stock I got and the factory EW that bsa posted side by side and see differences. The angle off the back side of the grip, the height of the butt portion behind the grip all the way to the pad. The grip thickness and of course it's shorter like the compact version from McM. I couldn't nail it at first but this is definately trimmer and it's obvious in the hand. Needless to say I am just happy I got what I got! My EW stock is 32 inches long so it is different

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9650491 03/02/15 Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,766 Likes: 1 Montana T toad Campfire Tracker toad Campfire Tracker T Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,766 Likes: 1 Montana but the medalist of mine in the pic on page 1 is 30 3/8" Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9654041 03/03/15 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,723 Upstate, NY snowboardguy Campfire Regular snowboardguy Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,723 Upstate, NY I think they have re-designed the stocks, this is a replacement EW I just got back for Winchester, the first one had the clubby black stock, this one is definitely slimmer.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9654360 03/03/15 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,972 Northeastern Pennyslvania keystoneben Campfire Regular keystoneben Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,972 Northeastern Pennyslvania My buddies got a 270 ew in an edge. I like the way it feels, but I prefer a fwt/edge combo than the ew/edge.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! snowboardguy #9654392 03/03/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born Originally Posted by snowboardguy I think they have re-designed the stocks, this is a replacement EW I just got back for Winchester, the first one had the clubby black stock, this one is definitely slimmer. That one definitely looks slimmer and shorter to my eyes. I'll bet that's the same one alaskacub has.. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! keystoneben #9654397 03/03/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born Originally Posted by keystoneben My buddies got a 270 ew in an edge. I like the way it feels, but I prefer a fwt/edge combo than the new/edge. Ben we know what you prefer. For some reason I think it starts with "Pre 64" something or other.. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9654460 03/03/15 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,972 Northeastern Pennyslvania keystoneben Campfire Regular keystoneben Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,972 Northeastern Pennyslvania Yeah my favorite rifle is a 30-06 pre64 FWT/edge combo, but I'm a fan of any handy combo. I would like to get my hands on a short action EW/edge to see how it feels compared to the 270.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! snowboardguy #9654528 03/03/15 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 22,884 D DakotaDeer Campfire Ranger DakotaDeer Campfire Ranger D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 22,884 Originally Posted by snowboardguy I think they have re-designed the stocks, this is a replacement EW I just got back for Winchester, the first one had the clubby black stock, this one is definitely slimmer. Is that on a short or long action?

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9654563 03/03/15 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1 16bore Campfire Ranger 16bore Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 Did B&C finally get a clue???

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! snowboardguy #9654668 03/03/15 Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,126 Las Vegas S STS45 Campfire Regular STS45 Campfire Regular S Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,126 Las Vegas Originally Posted by snowboardguy I think they have re-designed the stocks, this is a replacement EW I just got back for Winchester, the first one had the clubby black stock, this one is definitely slimmer. This is the stock I saw at the Winchester booth at SHOT Show in January. I immediately noticed that it felt slimmer. I asked the rep and he said the stock was redesigned to be slimmer. "Never miss the opportunity to shut the f$%K up." Colonel Hopewell.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9654839 03/03/15 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,540 Far Northstate Calif nifty-two-fifty Campfire Regular nifty-two-fifty Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,540 Far Northstate Calif Old Elk Hunter, It appears the stock that the OP got is now called the Medalist Ultra-Light. Here it is on Stocky's website for $269. https://www.stockysstocks.com/bell-...e-weather-u-s-repeating-arms-stocks.html, It is not checkered and it has the same model numbers as the OP's stock from Redhawk Rifles for $249. Last edited by nifty-two-fifty; 03/03/15. Nifty-250 "If you don't know where you're going, you may wind up somewhere else". Yogi Berra

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! nifty-two-fifty #9655163 03/04/15 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 Originally Posted by nifty-two-fifty Old Elk Hunter, It appears the stock that the OP got is now called the Medalist Ultra-Light. Here it is on Stocky's website for $269. https://www.stockysstocks.com/bell-...e-weather-u-s-repeating-arms-stocks.html, It is not checkered and it has the same model numbers as the OP's stock from Redhawk Rifles for $249. Yes I called Stockys and she gave me some measurements that are different then what came on my brand new EW. Will definitely put up my EW stock for sale and get that or a Mcmillan

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9655450 03/04/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado As I stated earlier, I've owned a bunch of McM stocks, but at the price point of $249 and immediate availability for this new style B&C, it's really a no brainer. For those of you that have owned the original Rem Ti take offs and liked them, IMO this is a very similar stock.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9655567 03/04/15 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 Originally Posted by AlaskaCub As I stated earlier, I've owned a bunch of McM stocks, but at the price point of $249 and immediate availability for this new style B&C, it's really a no brainer. For those of you that have owned the original Rem Ti take offs and liked them, IMO this is a very similar stock. Thanks for bringing up this thread. When I purchased my 70 a few weeks ago there was one on the rack, it felt fantastic and I told the guy at the counter that I would be right back, went out to the car to get some stuff. It was sold by the time I came back in less then 5 minutes. The owner of the LGS told me that they had one more left.. I looked it over for issues found none and purchased it . I have a feeling that the one that was sold out from under me was the one with your stock dimensions it was black with white effects while mine is all black. I have a short action 270 WSM that I am on the fence about selling and the 264 , I think the 270 WSM gets a edge compact but I am thinking of putting the stocky stocks "new" medalist on my new 264 and selling the other in the classifieds.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! Oldelkhunter #9655694 03/04/15 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,359 D drano 25 Campfire Regular drano 25 Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,359 Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter Originally Posted by nifty-two-fifty Old Elk Hunter, It appears the stock that the OP got is now called the Medalist Ultra-Light. Here it is on Stocky's website for $269. https://www.stockysstocks.com/bell-...e-weather-u-s-repeating-arms-stocks.html, It is not checkered and it has the same model numbers as the OP's stock from Redhawk Rifles for $249. Yes I called Stockys and she gave me some measurements that are different then what came on my brand new EW. Will definitely put up my EW stock for sale and get that or a Mcmillan Did you happen to get a circumference measurement in the grip area? Would like to compare to my 'clubby' B&C. Don't speculate when you don't know, and don't second guess when you do.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! DakotaDeer #9657035 03/04/15 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,723 Upstate, NY snowboardguy Campfire Regular snowboardguy Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,723 Upstate, NY Originally Posted by DakotaDeer Originally Posted by snowboardguy I think they have re-designed the stocks, this is a replacement EW I just got back for Winchester, the first one had the clubby black stock, this one is definitely slimmer. Is that on a short or long action? Short action, 7mm-08 to be exact.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9657361 03/04/15 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,540 Far Northstate Calif nifty-two-fifty Campfire Regular nifty-two-fifty Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,540 Far Northstate Calif Drano, Alaska Cub reported 5" vs. 5 1/2", if I understood correctly. Nifty-250 "If you don't know where you're going, you may wind up somewhere else". Yogi Berra

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! nifty-two-fifty #9658063 03/04/15 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,359 D drano 25 Campfire Regular drano 25 Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,359 Originally Posted by nifty-two-fifty Drano, Alaska Cub reported 5" vs. 5 1/2", if I understood correctly. Thanks Don't speculate when you don't know, and don't second guess when you do.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9658141 03/04/15 Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 461 MN Bigbuck_12 Campfire Member Bigbuck_12 Campfire Member Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 461 MN My ew built in 2009 measures 5 in and weighs 29.5 oz. maybe I got lucky but it explains why I have never understood all the bulky comments.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9664540 03/06/15 Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1 M Mullberry New Member Mullberry New Member M Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1 I spoke to Winchester product rep today and he stated no change has been made to the stock. I re-asked the question, he got his supervisor on the line, and his supervisor stated that no change had been made to the stock. He stated it is the same stock they have been using. Not sure what to think. I would order the EW if it weren't for that blocky stock.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! Mullberry #9664562 03/06/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born Originally Posted by Mullberry I spoke to Winchester product rep today and he stated no change has been made to the stock. I re-asked the question, he got his supervisor on the line, and his supervisor stated that no change had been made to the stock. He stated it is the same stock they have been using. Not sure what to think. I would order the EW if it weren't for that blocky stock. 1 post, but I totally agree with you. I bought one with the blocky as hell stock (some of us call it a 2x4 for obvious reasons) and had it off of there like a prom dress after midnight as soon as I got the rifle. It was put in a micky edge and it made one hell of a difference. It was a night and day difference, to be quite frank. The B&C medalist it comes with might make a good boat oar or baseball bat... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9665139 03/07/15 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 22,884 D DakotaDeer Campfire Ranger DakotaDeer Campfire Ranger D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 22,884 The Winny reps probably are not aware of any changes. They most likely use the "same" stock, meaning it is still ordered directly from B&C. They wouldn't know if B&C changed molds or not. This is similar to the difference between the "early" and "late" original Ti stocks. They changed molds randomly somewhere in the middle of the run, and the stocks got bulky overnight.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! DakotaDeer #9665447 03/07/15 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 They changed the stock all right and I think Winchester is using old and new inventory when building extremes. The new version is 30" OALl the old 32" as per the customer rep at stocks same part number. I have a 26" barrel on mine so I will buy the new slimmer model and off the old one. If it had a 24" barrel It would go into an edge compact,compact or featherweight.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9665548 03/07/15 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado AlaskaCub OP Campfire Tracker OP AlaskaCub Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,205 Calirado Well I can tell you that my M70 w/ the EW barrel in this new stock weighs about 6lbs 7 oz bare with no optics. The Win specs for this rifle in the 300 WSM states 7lbs. Call me crazy but that's a significant difference to me.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9666240 03/07/15 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,723 Upstate, NY snowboardguy Campfire Regular snowboardguy Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,723 Upstate, NY Just to update, I just measured my new EW and it also measure 5" and while I don't have the old one to measure I can tell you that this one definitely feels slimmer.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9666495 03/07/15 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,968 Likes: 16 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,968 Likes: 16 This got me curious so I just broke out the scale and tape. 2010 vintage 300wsm ew bare rifle (no rings, no mods, 24" factory barrel) 7 pd 0.5 oz total Stock (no metal except studs) 1 pd 15.45 oz (31.45 oz) Bolt assembly 13.65 oz Stock length 30" Grip circ. 5.0" 6pd 7 oz on cubs would imply a 9.5 oz weight saving on the new stock (22 oz??) Not sure what to think, other than I want one of these new stocks if true.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9666536 03/07/15 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,968 Likes: 16 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,968 Likes: 16 More numbers 2009 338 ew bare no rings LA 26" factory 7 pd 3.15 oz total Stock 1 pd 15.8 oz (31.8 oz) Bolt 14.3oz Stock length 32" Grip circ 5 3/8 " with noticeably thicker "feel" By comparison - Micky edge mod 70 SA (hunters edge compact ) Stock 13.5" lop 30 1/2" long 23.65 oz 4 7/8" grip circ Hope this helps someone!

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AKwolverine #9666550 03/07/15 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born Originally Posted by AKwolverine More numbers 2009 338 ew bare no rings LA 26" factory 7 pd 3.15 oz total Stock 1 pd 15.8 oz (31.8 oz) Bolt 14.3oz Stock length 32" Grip circ 5 3/8 " with noticeably thicker "feel" By comparison - Micky edge mod 70 SA (hunters edge compact ) Stock 13.5" lop 30 1/2" long 23.65 oz 4 7/8" grip circ Hope this helps someone! Excellent info right there. Thanks!!! Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AlaskaCub #9666605 03/07/15 Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska B bearstalker Campfire Outfitter bearstalker Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska EW 7mm WSM on the left and a compact EDGE stock on the right. Mine was not blocky/thick/whatever at all.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! 16bore #9666670 03/07/15 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1 16bore Campfire Ranger 16bore Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 Originally Posted by 16bore Been there, done that. Redhawk BC. Hope your inlet is better than this POS was. Best thing I ever did was load 50 rounds of 130 NPT's and throw this thing in the back of the safe for a backup/loaner... Chunkalicious here is 32" long and 5 1/2" at the wrist.

Re: M70 Extreme owners, good Stock option! AKwolverine #9669727 03/08/15 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,359 D drano 25 Campfire Regular drano 25 Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,359 Originally Posted by AKwolverine More numbers 2009 338 ew bare no rings LA 26" factory 7 pd 3.15 oz total Stock 1 pd 15.8 oz (31.8 oz) Bolt 14.3oz Stock length 32" Grip circ 5 3/8 " with noticeably thicker "feel" By comparison - Micky edge mod 70 SA (hunters edge compact ) Stock 13.5" lop 30 1/2" long 23.65 oz 4 7/8" grip circ Hope this helps someone! Thanks for posting this! Don't speculate when you don't know, and don't second guess when you do.