Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Savage Collectors 1920s and 54s

Print Thread

Hop To

Page 1 of 2

1920s and 54s #9625969 02/22/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California S S99VG OP Campfire Tracker
OP S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California	I broke down and, after 20-years of drooling, bought myself a 1920-26 Savage with a Lyman 54. I don't have possession yet because we have a 10-day waiting period in CA. But, I do have the bolt and sight. In looking over the net, I have saw three, maybe four different versions of this sight. Mine has the elevation knob on the left and an adjusting screw for the windage. I have come across several pictures of identical 54s as well as 54s that are basically reversed in construction with some having windage adjustment knobs. I have also saw pictures of some that have adjustment systems that look much like Lyman 40s. Are there more configurations of this sight? Also, I have read that these rifles have mushy trigger pulls. Are they really mushy or is it a military two stage pull, which I have no problem with. Many thanks for any comments. Last edited by S99VG; 02/22/15. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

GB1

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9626017 02/22/15
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 9,324 Va 9 99guy Campfire Outfitter
99guy Campfire Outfitter 9 Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 9,324 Va	Two stage trigger pull I could never get used to it. Just me "You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~ When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9626223 02/22/15
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 16,076 G gregintenn Campfire Ranger
gregintenn Campfire Ranger G Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 16,076	They remind me of shooting a miniature 1903 Springfield. The trigger feels like a standard two stage military trigger. Mine is the earlier 1920 without an aperture sight.

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9626280 02/22/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California S S99VG OP Campfire Tracker
OP S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California	Since I'm also a sucker for 1903 Springfields I have no issues with the two-stage pull. Thanks for your input. Last edited by S99VG; 02/22/15. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9626369 02/22/15
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 16,076 G gregintenn Campfire Ranger
gregintenn Campfire Ranger G Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 16,076	Me too.

IC B2

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9626565 02/22/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California S S99VG OP Campfire Tracker
OP S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California	Speaking of 54s, in this case early Winchester 54s, I think the 1920 and 1920-26 are much better proportioned rifles. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9626622 02/22/15
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,084 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger
gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,084 Annapolis, Md.	Me three. A Lyman 54 I built out of a bare base a couple years ago. (It looks a little different now- elevation clamp screw replaced with a knurled knob.) Last edited by gnoahhh; 02/22/15. "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: 1920s and 54s gnoahhh #9626663 02/22/15
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,625 Lyndeborough New Hampshire Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter
Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,625 Lyndeborough New Hampshire	I built two for a couple of my rifles. I have seen them like what I built and have seen them 180 opposite. NRA Endowment Life Member (and proud of it) Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato Deuteronomy 22:5

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9626681 02/22/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California S S99VG OP Campfire Tracker
OP S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California	Wow, you guys built 54s. I am God smacked in awe of that! My 54 is identical to Longbeardkings, except my windage adjustment is nothing more than a tiny screw head at the end of the windage shaft. It looks factory to me. Could it be something did to streamline the site for the hunting market, you know like what Redfield did with their Hunter knobs. Last edited by S99VG; 02/23/15. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9626700 02/22/15
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,084 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger
gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,084 Annapolis, Md.	Very nice, Steve. I eschewed the screw adjustable windage because I just didn't see myself needing to make adjustments once it was sighted in on a rifle that gets fired maybe once a year. My hat is off to you for executing that feature! "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

IC B3

Re: 1920s and 54s gnoahhh #9626744 02/22/15
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,625 Lyndeborough New Hampshire Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter
Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,625 Lyndeborough New Hampshire	Yours is the way they should be. There's no need for constant micro-adjustment. Luckily I have a boss that is more than willing to let me play once in awhile. NRA Endowment Life Member (and proud of it) Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato Deuteronomy 22:5

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9628372 02/23/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California S S99VG OP Campfire Tracker
OP S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California	So here's a stupid question. The elevation lock knob on my sight is very tight. Are they meant to lock down by finger pressure or is there something else that does it? I ask because it appears to be a three piece asembly with one of the pieces having two drilled holes, looking like it may take a special screw driver head. Last edited by S99VG; 02/23/15. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9628477 02/23/15
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,625 Lyndeborough New Hampshire Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter
Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,625 Lyndeborough New Hampshire	If I'm understanding you correctly. The knurled knob is threaded onto the "T" nut that is locked into the sight base. The center of the knurled knob has a disc that is ALSO threaded onto the same shaft. There are two small holes holes about .030" in diameter, 1/4" apart. That is a lock nut. To loosen it you need a spanner wrench. OR if your careful a small set of snap ring pliers with inserts small enough to fit into the two holes. NRA Endowment Life Member (and proud of it) Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato Deuteronomy 22:5

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9628696 02/23/15
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,084 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger
gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,084 Annapolis, Md.	And yes, by my experience, those buggers must be torqued down tight to prevent slippage under fire. It seems that for some reason these Lyman 54s on 1920s are more prone to that for some reason. (Perhaps because the tail block isn't as solid a platform for a receiver sight as a non-moving installation would be, and as such suffers from vibratory influences?) "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9651884 03/03/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California S S99VG OP Campfire Tracker
OP S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California	I suspect those of you in the know have seen this, but the auction site that sounds much like "stockbroker" has an Savage "Experimental" rifle that can be found with the following search: Savage Experimental Rifle (British SMLE style) I have absolutely nothing to do with this auction nor the capitol to do anything about it. I just find it an interesting artifact in the lineage of the 1920. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9651983 03/03/15
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,084 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger
gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,084 Annapolis, Md.	Whoa, those are a new one on me. "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9652084 03/03/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California S S99VG OP Campfire Tracker
OP S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California	I had looked at it before, but never made the connection. The similarities seem to be undeniable. But like I said, it will be a hot day on the dark side of the moon before I could pony up the greenbacks for that one. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9652133 03/03/15
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 4ager Campfire Ranger
4ager Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453	Originally Posted by S99VG I broke down and, after 20-years of drooling, bought myself a 1920-26 Savage with a Lyman 54. I don't have possession yet because we have a 10-day waiting period in CA. But, I do have the bolt and sight. In looking over the net, I have saw three, maybe four different versions of this sight. Mine has the elevation knob on the left and an adjusting screw for the windage. I have come across several pictures of identical 54s as well as 54s that are basically reversed in construction with some having windage adjustment knobs. I have also saw pictures of some that have adjustment systems that look much like Lyman 40s. Are there more configurations of this sight? Also, I have read that these rifles have mushy trigger pulls. Are they really mushy or is it a military two stage pull, which I have no problem with. Many thanks for any comments. A TEN DAY waiting period! For a BOLT ACTION RIFLE! Originally Posted by Mannlicher America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9652412 03/03/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California S S99VG OP Campfire Tracker
OP S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California	Yep, 10 days for everything; handguns, rifles and shotguns. We are used to it here as at it was worse back in the 90's when it was 20 days. In spite of that, and being an advocate of the shooting sports, I will not condemn my home state on account bad politics. I have lived and worked elsewhere and still find the range of regional geography an amazing thing. Oceans, deserts, high mountains and spectacular valleys. Sorry, just a personal soapbox. Last edited by S99VG; 03/03/15. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Re: 1920s and 54s S99VG #9652493 03/03/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California S S99VG OP Campfire Tracker
OP S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California	By the way, I pick up the 1920 today. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Page 1 of 2

Moderated by Rick99, RickBin

Link Copied to Clipboard

AX24

583 members (160user, 10gaugeman, 1lessdog, 1minute, 10gaugemag, 1badf350, 53 invisible), 2,556 guests, and 1,318 robots.

Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod

April
S	M	T	W	T	F	S
	1	2	3	4	5	6
7	8	9	10	11	12	13
14	15	16	17	18	19	20
21	22	23	24	25	26	27
28	29	30

Forum Statistics

Forums81

Topics1,191,475

Posts18,471,521

Members73,936

Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023