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Picked this up a few days ago. Condition is pretty good. Some staining where the steel buttplate got wet and it soaked into the wood. Was missing the rear sight. These pics show a folding Lyman but I swapped it for an elevator style sight from a 1950 30-06. Stock is missing a lot of finish. I'll likely get the local stock guy to spiff it up unless I can find a high comb stock to put it into. [img]http://i56.photobucket.com/alb...0300%20HampH%20008_zpsmkiruylu.jpg[/img]
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Looks like a nice piece of walnut.
Congrats on a great caliber in a classic rifle.
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wow what a beauty, one of my favorite pre 64 M70's, so much that I got 2 of them in the last month. Enjoy!
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Very nice find. I could like something like that..
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Great find. The jealousy should just be arriving from Oregon as you read this.
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Have the Stock Guy "spiff" her, She's too purty to spend her life under the bench ! Mine liked her diet of IMR4350 Rich
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Very much like my '55 Standard, but much better figure in the wood. Very nice, and getting hard to find one unmolested now days.
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A great rifle in a great caliber, congrats. I'm starting mine on a diet of 165gr NBT.
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Rembo, cograts on a great find. I would definitely suggest having the stock done to take advantage of that great looking figure in it. Not overboard mind you, something along the lines of what RGK had his guy (Justin McMillan, I believe) do to his. Maybe a repointing and minimal refinish. Gotta love the classic look of those low-combs. John
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I'd just give the stock a couple light, hand-rubbed coats of Old West Snake Oil....
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A little magic worked on that low comb stock and it's going to be stunning. Great catch Rembo!
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Looks like a nice piece of walnut.
Congrats on a great caliber in a classic rifle.
donsm70 I agree, nice find! Eric
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What a beautiful rifle and great find. Congrats rembo. I like it!!!
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Awesome, I'm jealous. Very nice pick up.
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That is exactly kind of gun I would be looking for. There is some carry wear, but likely very little shooting wear. Few drops of Scherell's Schaftol Dark will make that stock look real nice.
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That is exactly kind of gun I would be looking for. There is some carry wear, but likely very little shooting wear. Few drops of Scherell's Schaftol Dark will make that stock look real nice. Where can one buy that stock oil in the States?
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I saw a completely unmolested one here at a local gun show two weeks ago, a 1949 model in great condition. After I saw the price tag I however felt slightly molested............
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I saw a nice one on either Gun broker or Guns International. The only determent to me is it had a pad and I already have one. It was more likely GI as I'm not a fan of GB.
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Agree that a pad is a big deterrent....
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Am I the only heathen that immediately thought of putting it in a decent synthetic and hunting the heck out of it? Rembo, another nice one, you do have some good sources!
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Synthetic stocks esp on a nice vintage gun such as a Pre 64 M70 is IMHO like having sex with a condom. It works but you loose something along the way
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I agree with GSPfan. On the other hand, if we continue the analogy and liken a big stock ding to an unwanted pregnancy, perhaps some careful planning/prevention is in order.
I will say that many of you get more upset about a well done pad than I do. I'm not saying I would cut an uncut stock. I wouldn't, but IMO a well done pad hardly changes the intrinsic character of a rifle.
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A stock ding can be removed with a damp cloth and an iron for the most part....the other thing not so much.
I bought (cheap) a pre64 M70 in 220 Swift that someone had cut the stock on. I had to add a pad so I used one of the Winchester reproductions from Galazan. It works but I don't like it.
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Synthetic stocks esp on a nice vintage gun such as a Pre 64 M70 is IMHO like having sex with a condom. It works but you loose something along the way I love my synthetic stocked pre 64's. Makes them more user friendly and easier to maintain. Plus they aren't going to soak up water or when they get dinged up, they won't lose value. I try to hang onto the original wood on rifles I think I may sell down the road.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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So it was you! lol I was going to grab this one but it was sold by the time I saw the ad. Congrats on a beautiful rifle!
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Whoa. Nice rifle, rembo. Enjoy!
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Well, then let me replace ding with big, ugly, deep, nasty scratch. The kind that will always be there.
But I do agree entirely that part of the experience of hunting with a Pre '64 is an original stock (although IMO a pad detracts little from the experience.)
On the other hand, if you want to hunt it hard and you want to save a nice stock, nothing wrong with BSA's plan. The main thing is he keeps the pieces together for posterity's sake.
Me? I split the difference and use an original stock, probably with a pad, that has little collector value. And even those ain't all that cheap.
Had the .220 Swift not had the stock cut, maybe you wouldn't have bought it all that cheap. And you might also be a little less inclined to take it out and use. But, I could be wrong about that.
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Well, then let me replace ding with big, ugly, deep, nasty scratch. The kind that will always be there.
But I do agree entirely that part of the experience of hunting with a Pre '64 is an original stock (although IMO a pad detracts little from the experience.)
On the other hand, if you want to hunt it hard and you want to save a nice stock, nothing wrong with BSA's plan. The main thing is he keeps the pieces together for posterity's sake.
Me? I split the difference and use an original stock, probably with a pad, that has little collector value. And even those ain't all that cheap.
Had the .220 Swift not had the stock cut, maybe you wouldn't have bought it all that cheap. And you might also be a little less inclined to take it out and use. But, I could be wrong about that.
Gundoc. I like that plan too: Finding a good shooter stock. That's what I did with the '51 std wt. 30-06 EricM owns now. I pillar/glass bedded and freefloated the barrel on that one and it shoots better than any pre 64 I've had. I like doing this as well since I have a soft spot in my heart for a good wood stock too. This is one of the reasons I couldn't force myself to re-stock the 338 Alaskan since it is just about right, even with the ventilated recoil pad that absorbs a lot of recoil. Now, I just spent 3 hours in the shop taking out the nice glass bedding job on the coyote bomber swirly to throw my 375 H&H into. I am thinking I might pack it around this year for elk season, when I'm not carrying my custom 338 win mag (pre 64 model 70)
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Gun Doc I just like wood stocks and use the ones I have to the best of my ability from custom built rifles with truly gorgeous wood to expensive SXS shotguns there are no safe queens. If use puts a scratch or ding then it's just another memory. I took a bad fall last year Grouse hunting. I was carrying a CHE Parker 20ga one of 8 built with 26 inch Damascus barrels. We both came out ok. There is a place for the synthetic stock and I have 4 rifles so stocked. If I'm ever able to get back to Alaska the ugly gun will be my rifle. A Ruger M77 stainless 338WM. The synthetics just for me don't have that warm feeling you get from a nice stick of walnut.
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The synthetics just for me don't have that warm feeling you get from a nice stick of walnut. Agree 100%. The only non-wood stock I've ever owned on a gun went out the door recently, a paratrooper-stocked M1 Carbine. I just do not care for synthetic of any kind. Just old and crotchety I guess. yooper
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Probably a fine gun to hunt with now.... Any .300 mag is a usable arm . A classy looking .300H&H is even better. Only down side is I bet is fairly heavy?
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Probably a fine gun to hunt with now.... Any .300 mag is a usable arm . A classy looking .300H&H is even better. Only down side is I bet is fairly heavy? The weight is practically same as standard grade .270 or .30-06 of the same vintage. The only downside is in most places ammo is either made of unobtainium or very, very expensive.
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