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We don't know how many letters Paul wrote that were NOT included in the Bible........ maybe none.

Paul, a legalistic Jew, seems not to have captured the ESSENCE of the Jesus message as well as the Apostles who actually traveled with Jesus. It seems apparent to me that he could not fathom a message of deliverance without an organized structure such as the Jewish religion of his day.

It seems clear from the N.T. that politics were not altogether absent from the group of followers, which is only to be expected when humans are involved.

So....... I don't believe he "got it all down right". Like you mentioned earlier in this thread, there's a bit too much "Paul" in his letters to accept them all, in their entirety, as being "God breathed".

To the contrary, Paul had to give Peter a comeuppance twice, when he gravitated back to the law. But we will all believe what we chose.

No time today. Maybe tonight, BUT, my post was not a challenge but an observation. All in all, it would likely not be fruitful, as the observation predicts.

Yeah...... I'd forgotten about that circumcision deal. I started to compare Paul just John, but decided to be "inclusive".

We will all believe what seems most likely to be true, to us. And who's to say whose right. Nobody knows for sure. Makes for good discussion though.

krp,
Apparently you didn't read the whole post. And you apparently did not read where I posted God's Word says Jesus baptized more than John.

Question to the audience:




Is what the Pharisees heard necessarily the same as what Jesus did as found in John 4:1?

I'm not really interested in another man's fruit anyway.

Kent

Nice snarky sleaze, there, Kent. I'm a little surprised but educated.

Why did you change this post and emit the fruit comment?

Kent

I didn't say anything about fruit in the post you copied. I said something about "fruitful", or lack thereof, in the one you responded to.

Both posts are still as originally submitted, Kent. You looked at the wrong one.

I don't know if A.S. will ever get to our experiment, or not.

This is twice he's "come up gone" when we get down to it.

No, I read it more than once and was surprised, I almost commented on it as it was inflammatory but decided not to.

'All in all, it would likely not be fruitful, as the observation predicts.' Which references it.

RickyD, did you change the original post?

Kent

Is THIS the post in question?

Yes

Kent

It's still the way it was originally submitted. In my format.... it's still on this page.

Not sure what that means as for me to see if there's another post I have to update the page, and any edits would change a post if not quoted in another.

Regardless, I wondered why someone would sit in judgement on another's fruit and judge it negative after all that's been said here. That was before I saw the other post later because of work.

Kent

No. I tried to convey that to you in my last reply and tell you where I posted fruitful. I didn't even read the first again because I know I didn't change anything. So if you think you see fruit in it a little later, I didn't put it back either. I don't recall ever mentioning it in that post, though, so it'd be a surprise to both of us. Not that I'd know what difference it would make.

But as for Paul, I've read everything he's wrote a few times, and believe it to be as much totally of God as the rest of the Book. And I believe that the rest of the Book is fully inspired of God and a thing of amazing value and Truth. I truly love it. As I do any perfect gift from God. It all fits together for me. Any so-called contradiction I've looked at, isn't, or a riddle or lesson I don't feel the need to invest in.

I's also say, in my opinion, Paul is one of God's greatest appointments. Moses without the wilderness, though Paul might have preferred it. It's apparent Paul preferred the message he delivered of Love and Faith, over law and sacrifice. He was able to deliver the best news the world had, or has since, known. Not a small thing.

Nope. Just some days I have higher priorities then the Fire and can't spend as much time chatting with you guys as I'd like.

Curdog, you should know by now, I'll follow the evidence where ever it leads. If you are asking if I will choose to believe something without sufficient evidence, of course the answer is no.