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How the Hell does anyone (and the most likely are the parents) do this?

This one has been eating at my head for days. I still don't know whether to cry, or vomit, or what.

I have friends in that area. The parents lawyered up just before the body was found in the septic tank under their trailer. Parents are known or suspected of being "pill heads". The boy hadn't been seen in school for a week prior to the disappearance.

All I can hope at this point is that he was dead before hand.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/26/body-missing-va-boy-found-septic-tank/70519876/

DUBLIN, Va. — The body of a missing 5-year-old Virginia boy was found in a septic tank Thursday afternoon, authorities said.

Noah Thomas went missing from his home Sunday. His body was found shortly after 1 p.m. ET Thursday near his family's home in Dublin.

Pulaski County Sheriff Jim Davis announced the discovery Thursday during a brief news conference.

The cause of death has not been determined. The body is being transported to the Office of the Medical Examiner in Roanoke for an autopsy.

Noah Thomas was last seen by his mother on Sunday morning at the family's home. Several hundred law enforcement officers and volunteers had been searching for him since then.

Police had received more than 100 tips from around the country.

Davis said earlier Thursday that the tips included sightings of boys and reports of suspicious vehicles in the child's neighborhood.

Davis stressed after Noah's discovery that no one is in custody and an investigation is continuing. He said the boy's family is cooperating with investigators. The FBI is on scene to provide forensic support.

Contributing: The Associated Press


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Hell ain't hot enough for anyone that would do that to a child!!!


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Yup.

And whomever did this meets the Devil in "person" and soon.


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Hell ain't hot enough for anyone that would do that to a child!!!


Agreed, and I would sure love the honor of being the one to send them there, slowly and by hand.


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If there's a worse way to die than being thrown into a septic tank, as a child - by your parent(s), and having the lid closed on you so you drown in piss and schit in pitch black, dead cold silence... I'm not sure what it would be.

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Yup.

And whomever did this meets the Devil in "person" and soon.


Just ask most fire folks. There aint no Devil.


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Yup.

And whomever did this meets the Devil in "person" and soon.


Just ask most fire folks. There aint no Devil.


Leave it to a "christian" to turn this into some sick, twisted, ridiculous religious issue.


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This is what we get for not chopping dope and pill pushers.


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If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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Originally Posted by 4ager
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Yup.

And whomever did this meets the Devil in "person" and soon.


Just ask most fire folks. There aint no Devil.


Leave it to a "christian" to turn this into some sick, twisted, ridiculous religious issue.


Me thinks Ch brought up punishment in hell. I guess you missed that, huh? wink


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Yup.

And whomever did this meets the Devil in "person" and soon.


Just ask most fire folks. There aint no Devil.


Leave it to a "christian" to turn this into some sick, twisted, ridiculous religious issue.


Me thinks Ch brought up punishment in hell. I guess you missed that, huh? wink


No, doc, I didn't. Bringing up "the devil" ain't like what you did.

That ain't missed.

In the best case, the little boy was killed and thrown into the septic tank to rot and hide the body. In the worst case, he was thrown in alive, by his parents, to drown in that tank full with a lid slammed over him.

You thought it appropriate to take into whether or not members here believe in a devil or not. You wanted to take this heinous act into a stupid, silly, meaningless debate about "christianity" so you could thump your Bible and beat your chest and feel better about yourself in some twisted, sick way.

Just f'kin' drop it.

God or not, Satan or not, religion or not, this kid got dumped into a septic tank by his parents. No amount of soapbox preaching by you or anyone else on either side of some stupid, meaningless religious "debate" is going to change that.


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Someone said he hopes the perps meet the Devil. I replied to that post. I hope they do too. Now, how about you?

God bless you 4, as your needs may be, and have a blessed day.

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Originally Posted by 4ager

In the best case, the little boy was killed and thrown into the septic tank to rot and hide the body. In the worst case, he was thrown in alive, by his parents, to drown in that tank full with a lid slammed over him.


Hard to comprehend how any parent could do that to their child..

Hell, its hard to comprehend how any person could do that to any child...

I can't think of a punishment fitting for such evil, even the death penalty would be getting off lightly..

I suppose there is an outside chance this was a tragic
accident? Not that would alleviate the suffering that little boy went through..

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Originally Posted by Pete E
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In the best case, the little boy was killed and thrown into the septic tank to rot and hide the body. In the worst case, he was thrown in alive, by his parents, to drown in that tank full with a lid slammed over him.


Hard to comprehend how any parent could do that to their child..

Hell, its hard to comprehend how any person could do that to any child...

I can't think of a punishment fitting for such evil, even the death penalty would be getting off lightly..


Agreed.


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Originally Posted by eyeball
Someone said he hopes the perps meet the Devil. I replied to that post. I hope they do too. Now, how about you?

God bless you 4, as your needs may be, and have a blessed day.

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BS, Doc, but spin it however you feel you need to.


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This one has been eating at my head for days. I still don't know whether to cry, or vomit, or what.



I have been the same way. How.... Why...?

Whoever did this is pure deepest pits of Hell EVIL!

I pray that justice is swift and sure and very, very agonizing for the perpetrators.

May they forever suffer the tortures of the DAMNED!


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Need to start culling these pieces of schit out of society just as we should child molesters, anyone who would do either to a kid is broke beyond repair.

I think I'll just cry......


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Lets be honest, at this point, No one knows if the parents are involved at all,

possible the tank had no lid on it, or did I miss some detail somewhere?

None the less, very sad deal.

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meth heads do strange things when strung out. We had one down here not so long ago, where a mother high on meth, put her infant in the oven, thinking the child was dinner.


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Lets be honest, at this point, No one knows if the parents are involved at all.

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The parents lawyered up just before the body was found in the septic tank under their trailer.

Most people don't do that if they're not involved at all. They let the police go ahead and rule them out so they they can then concentrate their efforts on finding the real killer/s.


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I don't even know what to say....

Godspeed, child.


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Poor little feller, it's getting dusty in here, Godspeed Little Man.



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Like my wife said, if they didn't want him they could have just dropped him off at our place. We would have taken care of him.


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we had a similar incident in aransas pass several years ago. little 3 yr old girl fell into an uncovered septic tank. she was found and they attempted to revive her but she had been without oxygen to long and was brain dead. the parents were convict of some charge but i don't remember what.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Like my wife said, if they didn't want him they could have just dropped him off at our place. We would have taken care of him.


I thank you and your wife for that and know it would be true. So sad, it did not work out that way...


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Like my wife said, if they didn't want him they could have just dropped him off at our place. We would have taken care of him.


Pretty much the way I feel about these things. My wife and I spent a lot of money to conceive and off the top of my head I can think of 2 couples I'm related to and another couple that I'm aware of that desperately want children, but just can't make it happen for one reason or another. They'd take a child like this in a flash and so would I. In fact, if I had the income to do it, I'd have several more children.

There's nothing on this planet that compares to watching a child grow and blossom and being privileged to be part of it. It sickens me that so many can't see the gift for what it is and choose to waste it.


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The default condition of this world is evil maliciousness. The god of this world is personified as Satan. Consider the history of the human species. That history is predominately war, chaos and atrocities. The Bible is a book wherein its god is jealous, vindictive, murderous, and evil toward his creation. At one point he committed mass murder of nearly the entire human species, an act that proved he is not Almighty God. He even selected a murderer to lead his "people" out of bondage. He then killed most off for transgressions in a horrible manner. He demanded blood sacrifice of humans and animals as tribute to himself. When Almighty God sent Jesus Christ to redeem the world, even He who was sinless, was condemned by the highest religious and civil authorities, scourged and murdered as a blood sacrifice to this evil malicious deity. We are told that Jesus Christ's sacrifice and resurrection conquered death and redeemed us all for a life in paradise, which is an admission that this world can not be redeemed, and will always remain a slaughterhouse. A life of peace and plenty exists elsewhere in some spiritual realm. Righteousness, goodness and moral behavior have never triumphed in this world, and never will. History teaches that all we have accomplished is to fashion ever more destructive weapons to kill more efficiently, and produce ideologies with ever more fervent murderous intent, especially under the guise of religion.

If you are sickened by all this, by children murdered in the cause of evil, by criminals, by religions that require mass murder of infidels, then you are one of those with a good moral compass. Having that compass, and wanting to change the world, leaves you only one realization: That to eliminate evil you will have to kill everyone else who practices evil. Thus even righteousness becomes an evil bloodbath. Your only escape is forgiveness and death without committing any act of evil yourself. This is the nature of the universe, existence has a psychology, a consciousness underlying material life, and we are imprisoned by a malevolent spirit. Jesus Christ points to the exit, but you will most likely be martyred if you follow Him. Life itself is the ultimate Catch 22.

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yeah, that is about as bleak an assessment as I have seen. Geez. Personally I think a little more highly of God Almighty. laugh


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Autopsy report preliminary:

The little boy died of a heroin OD.

The parents shot him up when they were getting high. They stuffed his body in a garbage bag and then rammed it into the septic tank under the trailer.

The Commonwealth's Attorney is brining every charge they can think of.


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Just horrible.

The almighty Creator has a special place for both of them.


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Same should be done to them minus the heroin


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Worthless [bleep]!

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Originally Posted by 4ager
Autopsy report preliminary:

The little boy died of a heroin OD.

The parents shot him up when they were getting high. They stuffed his body in a garbage bag and then rammed it into the septic tank under the trailer.

The Commonwealth's Attorney is brining every charge they can think of.


At this moment, I can barely form words.....

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Autopsy report preliminary:

The little boy died of a heroin OD.

The parents shot him up when they were getting high. They stuffed his body in a garbage bag and then rammed it into the septic tank under the trailer.

The Commonwealth's Attorney is brining every charge they can think of.



DAMN! Just DAMN! I can only hope the vermin resist arrest or try to escape custody so they can be properly dealt with.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Autopsy report preliminary:

The little boy died of a heroin OD.

The parents shot him up when they were getting high. They stuffed his body in a garbage bag and then rammed it into the septic tank under the trailer.

The Commonwealth's Attorney is brining every charge they can think of.


Good God, I cannot fathom the level of evil it takes, may the boy rest in peace and hopefully in the arms of Jesus. I can't think of anything horrible enough for the parents to endure that would make them pay for what they have done.








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Autopsy report preliminary:

The little boy died of a heroin OD.

The parents shot him up when they were getting high. They stuffed his body in a garbage bag and then rammed it into the septic tank under the trailer.

The Commonwealth's Attorney is brining every charge they can think of.


At this moment, I can barely form words.....


I understand this sentiment.


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Same should be done to them minus the heroin


They deserve a lot worse than that! mad


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Sick people.

Maybe someone in prison will save the taxpayers some money,if the parents are convicted.


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Death penalty in play in VA?



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Beyond comprehension....RIP little man.

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Death penalty in play in VA?



Yes. VA has the death penalty and ain't afraid to use it. On TX and FL execute more worthless POS than VA, and both of those states have a LOT more people and crime.


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Lets hope its botched, and they get to suffer like that poor child did....

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I sickened beyond words. On first reading all I could think is Dear God let the little man have died before being placed in the tank.

My second thought is the need for cruel and unusual punishment in a circumstance like this.


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Don't know if they have the case to go after Capitol punishment, but I certainly hope the prosecutors throw the damn kitchen sink at 'em.


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Originally Posted by MadMooner
Don't know if they have the case to go after Capitol punishment, but I certainly hope the prosecutors throw the damn kitchen sink at 'em.


Under Virginia's Criminal Code, the following offenses carry the possibility of death:

Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder in the commission of abduction,
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder during a robbery or attempted robbery
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder by a person engaged in a continuing Criminal Drug Enterprise
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder in the commission of rape or attempted rape or sodomy, or attempted sodomy, or object sexual penetration
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder of a person under the age of 14 by a person over the age of 21
Contract killing
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder of a law enforcement officer
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder of more than one person (within a three year time frame)
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder of a pregnant woman
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder by an inmate while in a correctional facility.
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder committed during an act of terrorism.
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder of a judge, juror, or witness

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Virginia



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Even if the "parents" got the Death Penalty,it's still not what they deserve. There's nothing here on Earth that can punish those two people to my satisfaction.


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Don't know if they have the case to go after Capitol punishment, but I certainly hope the prosecutors throw the damn kitchen sink at 'em.


Under Virginia's Criminal Code, the following offenses carry the possibility of death:

Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder in the commission of abduction,
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder during a robbery or attempted robbery
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder by a person engaged in a continuing Criminal Drug Enterprise
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder in the commission of rape or attempted rape or sodomy, or attempted sodomy, or object sexual penetration
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder of a person under the age of 14 by a person over the age of 21
Contract killing
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder of a law enforcement officer
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder of more than one person (within a three year time frame)
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder of a pregnant woman
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder by an inmate while in a correctional facility.
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder committed during an act of terrorism.
Willful, deliberate and premeditated murder of a judge, juror, or witness

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Virginia



It looks like the parents are safe from a death penalty. Their attorney will admit guilt as a tragic accidental overdose...nothing premeditated... smirk


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That's what I fear.


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There is some emotional part of me that would like to see them suffer.

My rational side says, just end them and move forward.


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I wonder if the little man get a proper burial and head stone?


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Autopsy report preliminary:

The little boy died of a heroin OD.

The parents shot him up when they were getting high. They stuffed his body in a garbage bag and then rammed it into the septic tank under the trailer.

The Commonwealth's Attorney is brining every charge they can think of.


sad we even have to send people like this to trial....

Their fate should be exactly what they did on their own child...

as I have said before, the best things these druggies can do for society is to overdose...

it is times Like this, that I could never be an LEO...

how do these folks have the patience to go and arrest people like this, when they have every motivation under the sun to just blow their brains out in their living room...

The death penalty doesn't even start to make this thing right...

and what pisses me off the most is it happening on family home turf...

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Originally Posted by RS308MX
I wonder if the little man get a proper burial and head stone?


Guaranteed.


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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