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Sure, dip schit, every rifle is exactly the same, regardless of design.
What I stated wasn't a stretch, and is fact. We've got exactly ONE clip of the dude firing a MG that has a very odd stock design, and you're saying he's just pandering. Having fired the M249 more than once (ditto the M60, M240, M2, and schit load other ordinance), I'd give the guy a pass because the ergos are all completely different on them and a myriad other rifles and MGs.
Then again, "firing them once" might be the masters level for determination, right? You must not be as good as you think you are, VA, because I've never found an M-249 to be awkward. But then again, shooting doesn't require super secret squirrel knowledge. Don't know who you think you're referring to, Cossatojoe, but there's no secret squirrel knowledge implied in my response. It's a simple fact that the ergos on the M-249 are quite different than most other rifles. Then again, I've shot an 870 once (or more), so I ought to be able to have perfect or near perfect form on a Perazzi trap gun or since I've fired a K-22 once (or more) I should have near perfect form if I were to be handed a Hammerli target competition pistol, right? I mean, hell, I've fired those once (or more), and everything is the same, right? The M249 is an odd fit for a newb, especially fired offhand. That's a fact. Cruz's form was weird and not "proper", but then again, all we have is one clip of him firing it unsupported. From that, you think he's faking it all; I'd give him a little more benefit of the doubt and want more evidence. That's the situation, and you're the f'kin' expert, having fired one...once.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Sure, dip schit, every rifle is exactly the same, regardless of design.
What I stated wasn't a stretch, and is fact. We've got exactly ONE clip of the dude firing a MG that has a very odd stock design, and you're saying he's just pandering. Having fired the M249 more than once (ditto the M60, M240, M2, and schit load other ordinance), I'd give the guy a pass because the ergos are all completely different on them and a myriad other rifles and MGs.
Then again, "firing them once" might be the masters level for determination, right? You must not be as good as you think you are, VA, because I've never found an M-249 to be awkward. But then again, shooting doesn't require super secret squirrel knowledge. Don't know who you think you're referring to, Cossatojoe, but there's no secret squirrel knowledge implied in my response. It's a simple fact that the ergos on the M-249 are quite different than most other rifles. Then again, I've shot an 870 once (or more), so I ought to be able to have perfect or near perfect form on a Perazzi trap gun or since I've fired a K-22 once (or more) I should have near perfect form if I were to be handed a Hammerli target competition pistol, right? I mean, hell, I've fired those once (or more), and everything is the same, right? The M249 is an odd fit for a newb, especially fired offhand. That's a fact. Cruz's form was weird and not "proper", but then again, all we have is one clip of him firing it unsupported. From that, you think he's faking it all; I'd give him a little more benefit of the doubt and want more evidence. That's the situation, and you're the f'kin' expert, having fired one...once. So the first time you fire something new you tend to hold it away from you?
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You keep calling me that, strange...
You also like to tell stories or imagine things. Where did I say that I had fired one, once? I said I was no expert, but I didn't specify how many times I had fired one. You just love to take little grains of truth and spin tall tales don't you?
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i can't shoot a rem 11-78 for [bleep] but can kill the [bleep] out of ducks and dove with an 870
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you couldn't fire a dog turd unless you were sucking on it.
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You keep calling me that, strange...
You also like to tell stories or imagine things. Where did I say that I had fired one, once? I said I was no expert, but I didn't specify how many times I had fired one. You just love to take little grains of truth and spin tall tales don't you? You keep calling folks all kinds of schit; is that making stuff up and guessing, too? You're correct; you never specified how many times you shot one. If you had a clue, you'd know that the ergos are odd and that for a first time firing one, it can be a very odd duck to handle, especially offhand. As for spinning tales, I'll leave that to others. You can continue to try to accuse the dude of faking it, based upon a single video with an unfamiliar weapon of a design unlike most. It must soothe some part of you to do so, and why is beyond my level of give a schit.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Been using a Rem 1100 20 ga since 1978-79. Other shotguns have came and went but the 1100 stays.
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I didn't accuse the dude of faking it. I said he obviously hasn't had a lot of experience shooting rifles. Then I said it didn't matter. YOU went off the chain from there.
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I'm pretty deadly with my little 1100 Sporting Clays in 28 ga. But hand me a nice over/under and I can't hit the broad side of a fuggin barn!
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
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Killed dove,quail,ducks and rabbits with it.
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you couldn't fire a dog turd unless you were sucking on it. Powell, not me. http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/9723573/1
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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I'm pretty deadly with my little 1100 Sporting Clays in 28 ga. But hand me a nice over/under and I can't hit the broad side of a fuggin barn! Ah, Hell, shotguns are all the same. Just ask JoeBob; he'll tell you.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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i can't shoot a rem 11-78 for [bleep] Undoubtedly true and for the same reason the Czech Tokarev 4ager keeps going on about lacks a safety. Fantasy Guns of the 24hourcampfire
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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I didn't accuse the dude of faking it. I said he obviously hasn't had a lot of experience shooting rifles. Then I said it didn't matter. YOU went off the chain from there. You haven't a clue as to his level of experience shooting rifles; none of us do. He doesn't have a lot of experience shooting an M-249; that can be asserted without much difficulty, but beyond that it's all conjecture.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I'm pretty deadly with my little 1100 Sporting Clays in 28 ga. But hand me a nice over/under and I can't hit the broad side of a fuggin barn! Had a 870 in 28 ga,fun for quail & dove hunting,couldn't hit schit with it. Had a CZ Mallard O/U in 12 & 20 ga,did pretty good with the 12. When that O/U itch disappeared so did the shotguns.
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What is the argument here?
Ted is pro-2A.
Talks the talk/walks the walk.
Done.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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I want a CZ Bobwhite in a 16ga S/S bad! Since they discontinued that model in 16ga, they are getting a little pricy!
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
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I want a CZ Bobwhite in a 16ga S/S bad! Since they discontinued that model in 16ga, they are getting a little pricy! I'll keep my eyes and ears open.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Know the feeling,want a Winchester 101 12 or 20 ga so bad I will almost trade a kid for one.  
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Well it's a step up from Sarah Palin when her dad had to operate the bolt for her....but probably about the same level of legitimacy.
I've seen Kerry and Clinton hunt ducks as well...Bush workin a chain saw... I liked seeing him landing that jet on a flat top.  Seesh, Ghost.
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If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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