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Originally Posted by shrapnel
Whatever happened to the table that the treaty was signed on?


General Sheridan purchased the table and gave it to Libbie Custer. Where it is now, I surely don't know.


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Yes, the Yankees stole the damned furniture from the homeowner too.
They bought it from the owner.



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Originally Posted by ConradCA
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Yes, the Yankees stole the damned furniture from the homeowner too.
They bought it from the owner.


Not according to Mr. Mclean.

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
Lincoln ought to be dug up and shot again.

Chamberlain, however, appears to be a morally upright and worthwhile character.

Too bad he was on the wrong side.


Chamberlain's words in 1901. I was always impressed with the way he honored General Gordon. And General Gordon's action (as well as the actions of his steed) alway brings a tear to my eye. Only the honors that can be paid between two old enemies. Those between fighting men.

http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/primarysources/the-last-salute-of-the-army.html

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There are two words that define that war - Union and Confederacy.

Look those two up and give it a thunk. That war is still playing out, the "elite moneyed folk" overbearing the people who grow food and build the infrastructures, race be damned. Hence the "elites" who are running D.C.


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Originally Posted by Harry M
Damn pucking Yankees.... grin


I wish they would quit invading the South,

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I know that a lot of Yankees retire to Florida, but where else in the south do they go?

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What a bunch of sore losers.


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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
I know that a lot of Yankees retire to Florida, but where else in the south do they go?


Only about half way back between Yankee land and Florida. In other words, right where I live.

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Originally Posted by smarquez
What a bunch of sore losers.


We did not lose, only restocking. You are from CA so you don't count. :-0

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What is there of interest for Yankee retirees in NC?

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
What is there of interest for Yankee retirees in NC?


Better weather, scenery, family up north and Florida, used to be better housing for the dollar, other family members moved here.

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I guess, to each his own. After spending time at Fort Bragg, I figured that I'd seen all of NC that I ever wanted to see, although the Asheville area is rather nice.

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LOL. Yep, Fort Bragg is the pit of NC. I live 20 minutes north of Asheville which is on top of too many lists.

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Regardless what happened in 1865, we do have a Negro problem today.. Nationwide.

Those living in the South can proudly stand and proclaim, "We never brought the Negro here, we just purchased them from Yankee traders."

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In the decades leading up to the War of Secession cotton production became to increasingly dominate the economy of the South, enormous acreages being turned over to its production.

Unfortunately, the perceived necessity for slaves to do the actual labor of producing this crop had the effect of further entrenching the institution of "African slavery" (to use a Southern term) as an indispensable component of Southern society, to the extent that slaves actually outnumbered the free population in South Carolina and Mississippi, and rivaled it in others.

As I said in that other thread, the South's dependence upon cotton exports was comparable to the Saudis' dependence upon oil exports today. ALL of the de-facto Southern Aristocracy, and ALL of its leaders owed their fortunes to slave-produced cotton.

The idea of secession was nothing new in '61, it had been bandied about for decades, and national politics had been for at least that long all about accommodating the disparate goals of North and South with respect to the expansion of that slavery.

In their own words, a primary concern of the Southern States at the time of secession was that population growth and demographic shifts would reach a point wherein the Northern States might legally impose abolition upon the South.

No accident then that the Confederate Constitution when it was written specifically enshrined and protected the institution of chattel slavery in perpetuity.

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It took some real bravery to face each other in battle the way they did back then. Those boys on both sides were studs.

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My God! 600,000 dead!


It was Jerry "Mad Dog" Shriver (SFC E-7)who said:
"No, no, I've got them right where I want them -- surrounded from the inside."

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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Actually, that "last time in history" is a bit of hyperbole, if you skip to 2:25.



I'm trying to recall the book years ago where I read an account of an elderly Confederate Veteran many years after the war at a reunion at Fredericksburg. His quote went along the lines of "Many people today are still fighting that war, those of us who were actually in it are just glad its over."


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http://www.sobran.com/articles/tyranny.shtml

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The Civil War, or the War Between the States if you like, resulted from the suspicion that the North meant to use the power of the Union to destroy the sovereignty of the Southern states. Whether or not that suspicion was justified, the war itself produced that very result. The South was subjugated and occupied like a conquered country. Its institutions were profoundly remade by the federal government; the United States of America was taking on the character of an extensive, and highly centralized, empire. Similar processes were under way in Europe, as small states were consolidated into large ones, setting the stage for the tyrannies and gigantic wars of the twentieth century.

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