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Why are we giving money from earners, to sitters?
Is it even constitutional?
This came up during a conversation about minimum wage. I'm all for letting the market set the "minimum wage" rather than having the gov't impose it. An argument was made that we had to make sure that minimum wage was above what someone on welfare would receive...
Why do they receive taxpayer funds at all? Let the local churches and charities handle it.
Dunno. I'm not a constitutional scholar like our President. Is welfare even legit?
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It buys votes, that's the main reason it exists.
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It buys votes, that's the main reason it exists. +1
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doesn't matter to them if its constitutional or not. their mantra is "constitution? we don't need no stinking constitution"
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Why is the govt responsible when a natural disaster occurs? You either have insurance and provide for yourself or you dont.
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I don't see where it's within the scope of the original intent of the Commerce Clause. The 10th Amendment would suggest it's a power delegated to the states.
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Why are we giving money from earners, to sitters?
Is it even constitutional?
This came up during a conversation about minimum wage. I'm all for letting the market set the "minimum wage" rather than having the gov't impose it. An argument was made that we had to make sure that minimum wage was above what someone on welfare would receive...
Why do they receive taxpayer funds at all? Let the local churches and charities handle it.
Dunno. I'm not a constitutional scholar like our President. Is welfare even legit?
Thanks, Guy You're a man after my own heart. No, of course it's not Constitutional, and neither is most of what the government has been doing since FDR.
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Why are we giving money from earners, to sitters?
Is it even constitutional?
This came up during a conversation about minimum wage. I'm all for letting the market set the "minimum wage" rather than having the gov't impose it. An argument was made that we had to make sure that minimum wage was above what someone on welfare would receive...
Why do they receive taxpayer funds at all? Let the local churches and charities handle it.
Dunno. I'm not a constitutional scholar like our President. Is welfare even legit?
Thanks, Guy You're a man after my own heart. No, of course it's not Constitutional, and neither is most of what the government has been doing since FDR. Hello sherp
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We started out with corporate welfare/crony capitalism and then added in foreign welfare entitlements. Those were, and still are, very good things since we need to prop up the most at risk elite in our society and around the world.
The post 1930 welfare we could do with out.
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I would support unlimited welfare for all - no time limits either..... but what I call welfare would be a little different than what is offered today.
In my view welfare camps are the answer. Housing and meals provided. No drugs or alcohol and required work or education. Lights out at 10 and trumpets sound at 7 am.
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silver78, I could live with that at the state level. Constitution doesn't allow welfare at the federal government level, but doesn't, of course, prohibit welfare at the state level. Welfare is supposed to be a state/local/charity type of thing.
Of course, if the federal government wants most people to rely on them for their existence. .....
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I would support unlimited welfare for all - no time limits either..... but what I call welfare would be a little different than what is offered today.
In my view welfare camps are the answer. Housing and meals provided. No drugs or alcohol and required work or education. Lights out at 10 and trumpets sound at 7 am.
Don't like it? Prefer to be a hood rat? Fine - no soup for you. Of course the limitation should only apply to post 1930 type welfare recipients, not the longer running corporate/welfare variety.
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A complete over haul of all of the "takers" is long over due. But of course be prepared for the closeted blue lever pullers and the fake conservatives here to come along and try to convince you their part of the graft is good...it's the "other" takers that are bad....
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This is an example of "good" taking...what's a trillion here or there.... http://www.statebudgetsolutions.org/issues/detail/pensions
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It's always nice to be able to retire early, especially when you can stick the taxpayers with more good "taking" in basically free health care. http://www.wsj.com/articles/robert-...b-in-public-employee-benefits-1421367030
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If you think the time hasn't come to have a real discussion about the trillions of dollars politicians and public employees have been "taking" from the taxpayers then you ain't been paying real good attention.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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Don't you think that the fact that those states are Democrat might have something to do with it? If you are suggesting that they are bringing down the entire country, I have to agree with you.
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Don't you think that the fact that those states are Democrat might have something to do with it? If you are suggesting that they are bringing down the entire country, I have to agree with you. The taxpayers are being abused in every state, I'm not interested in different levels of abuse. You either condone taking or you don't.
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We don't get retiree health care. What business is it of mine if the guys YOU elect want to give to YOUR public employees?
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