Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Is "welfare" constitutional? Is it right?

You have to factor that it lessens the sting of the Government, through taxation and crazy other crazy laws, have driven the manufacturing jobs from the United States. Unions helped too, but I think it was mostly the federal government. Without the free stuff, the people would have paid more attention to this when it was happening. miles

I'm not in that system and apparently (according to your article) it's being addressed. What about yours?

ALL police officers in Texas receive health care subsidies if they retire before the age of 65.

No. I could retire now, if we did.

The 1st century Christian church also had it's share of freeloaders. Here's what the Bible has to say about it:
2Thes 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

I am retired from the Arkansas Highway Department, where I paid 6% of my gross wages, for 37 years, into the retirement fund. The Highway Department retirement fund is separate from the other State retirement systems and ours is in very good shape, due to good management and higher retirement ages, and we contribute more. Every Legislative session that I can remember, the State Troopers have tried, without success, to merge their retirement system with that of the Highway Department. They pay very little into the system and start retiring at 20 years service, where the Highway system is 28 and has been lowered from 35 in recent years. The police system is in shambles. Just shows that operated correctly, systems will work. miles

Harry knows more about you, your state and your situation by the mere fact that he lives in Massa2shits, you dumbphuck...

I've paid 5% into out retirement for 33 years, and could technically retire (quit and do something else) with a pension of approximately 30% of what I make now. No health care. That's okay through...it's growing exponentially now.

I know right? I only respond in case some kid reads it and thinks it's real.

It's what you take out that matters, not what you pay in. 5% ain't much considering the stock market just recovered from the 2000/1 downturn.

However, regardless of that you have a defined benefit pension and not a 401K system that pays a defined benefit regardless of what was paid in and regardless of what it's earned, or hasn't.

It's not defined. It is invested in stocks and bonds and dependent on return. If you need a reason to be miserable, look out your window instead of your computer screen.

Well, if you are gonna be untruthful then what's the point.

ALL PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PENSIONS ARE DEFINED BENEFIT PENSIONS

Without EXCEPTION

What do you think...this is my first rodeo..

Geezz, maybe you should retire in San Antonio...

http://www.expressnews.com/news/loc...-fire-medical-plans-targeted-5238686.php

See, Harry knows all via GoogleFu


Mighty powerful

OK, so it's 86% are DB, so tell us what town/city you work in and then we can all see what is what....no harm in that eh?

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...es-used-to-defend-public-sector-pensions

Nope. Ours is invested in 80% bonds, which is defined, making our return, somewhat defined.

..and I wish I did work for SA, but I don't, hind site being 20/20. Thank you for making my point though, not every place is the same. Have a great day...I'm out.

......or they can just get off their freeloading ass and get a job!!!

Churches and charities are "welfare" due to tax subsidies/deductions.

And, our defined retirement system changed a lot over the 37 years that I worked there. miles

That's been essentially my take on it for many years.