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I've worked up a load for my target rifle and it did not pan out like I thought. Where it shoots best, the node seems really small. I would appreciate if someone would run quick load for me and give me an idea of optimum barrel time to see if I am in a node or not or I can see what else I should try. I am working on getting a lap top for the main reason of getting quick loads, but that might take a few month. The info is as follows.

Cartridge: 308 Winchester
Bullet: 185 Berger Juggernaut
Measured bullet length:
Measured bullet boat-tail diameter:
Powder: Varget
Charge Weight (optional): Nodes seem to be at 42.5 and 44.2
Case: Lapua
Length: Trimmed to 2.007
Measured H20 Capacity*: 55.84
COAL: 2.997 is maximum jammed
Bullet touching/jammed into lands at COAL?: Jammed with 1/2 thousandth neck tension
Barrel: Bartlein 5 groove
Length: 29.5
Twist Rate: 10

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I don't know if that's the right bullet or not...

Here's what I see QuickLOAD is saying.

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Cartridge          : .308 Win.
Bullet             : .308, 185, Berger M T VLD #30413-513
Useable Case Capaci: 49.225 grain H2O = 3.196 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.997 inch = 76.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 29.5 inch = 749.3 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.699% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-07.0   91    39.90   2524    2617   51990   5340     99.2    1.442  ! Near Maximum !
-06.3   92    40.20   2539    2649   52885   5369     99.3    1.433  ! Near Maximum !
-05.6   92    40.50   2555    2681   53798   5397     99.4    1.423  ! Near Maximum !
-04.9   93    40.80   2570    2713   54730   5425     99.5    1.413  ! Near Maximum !
-04.2   94    41.10   2585    2746   55682   5452     99.6    1.403  ! Near Maximum !
-03.5   94    41.40   2601    2778   56653   5478     99.6    1.393  ! Near Maximum !
-02.8   95    41.70   2616    2811   57645   5504     99.7    1.384  ! Near Maximum !
-02.1   96    42.00   2631    2844   58658   5528     99.8    1.374  ! Near Maximum !
-01.4   96    42.30   2646    2877   59691   5552     99.8    1.365  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-00.7   97    42.60   2662    2910   60747   5575     99.9    1.356  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0   98    42.90   2677    2943   61824   5598     99.9    1.346  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.7   98    43.20   2692    2977   62924   5619     99.9    1.337  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4   99    43.50   2707    3010   64048   5640    100.0    1.328  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.1  100    43.80   2722    3043   65195   5660    100.0    1.319  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.8  100    44.10   2737    3077   66367   5679    100.0    1.310  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.5  101    44.40   2752    3111   67563   5697    100.0    1.301  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    42.90   2721    3043   66098   5483    100.0    1.316  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    42.90   2623    2826   57635   5661     99.0    1.381  ! Near Maximum !


OBT claims a node at 1.346ms with a 29.5 in barrel. That would put you at 42.9g, but QuickLOAD believes you are red-lining it there...

But you also really need to tune QuickLOAD with chronograph results to attempt to nail it down.


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