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I heard that 7 people were killed in the derailment... has anyone heard if Jesse Jackson's and Al Sharpton's Entourage were on the AmTrak at all??? I just want to make sure they are all right, just in case they were..... 
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Electing a conservative pres. next year would help privatize Amtrak...
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I had no idea that they could run that fast. We rode Amtrak to FL from DC last Thanksgiving (with a sleeper car) and my GPS had us routinely 80-100 mph. I've ridden the Acela several times to NY/Boston and seen 120 mph on the legs from Baltimore and Philly and then from Providence to Boston. Most of the rest of the infrastructure is speed limited.
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Even it the auto failed, how the he** can you not tell you are going 100 mph?
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My wife rides Amtrak quite often, and we know this route.
The train is quite frequently late.
Exceeding the recommended speed in order to make up time is the most plausible. 106 mph in a 50 mph posted curve????? This guy is toast!
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They are saying that he was flying at over 100 mph on a curve with a speed limit of 50... Imagine a Greyhound bus going off a curve at over 100 mph. It's amazing more didn't die.
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Electing a conservative pres. next year would help privatize Amtrak...
Privatizing Amtrak will do nothing to help their financial situation. Railroads pay for their infrastructure (right-of-way, track, controllers, systems) while airlines have free infrastructure (air is free) and the Air Traffic control System is reimbursed for only a fraction of the cost. Freight railroads do not have a system-wide comprehensive schedule to run; they run when the train is full (within limits). A passenger railroad must leave and arrive on schedule within minutes of the scheduled time or get a black eye, regardless of load density If we need to relieve air traffic in congested corridors, rail is an answer and we need to be willing to pay for it.
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Electing a conservative pres. next year would help privatize Amtrak...
Privatizing Amtrak will do nothing to help their financial situation. Railroads pay for their infrastructure (right-of-way, track, controllers, systems) while airlines have free infrastructure (air is free) and the Air Traffic control System is reimbursed for only a fraction of the cost. Freight railroads do not have a system-wide comprehensive schedule to run; they run when the train is full (within limits). A passenger railroad must leave and arrive on schedule within minutes of the scheduled time or get a black eye, regardless of load density If we need to relieve air traffic in congested corridors, rail is an answer and we need to be willing to pay for it. I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that you are for the continuation or expansion of a .gov program. <insert sarcasm font>
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rail is an answer and we need to be willing to pay for it. Why should I have to pay for something that I don't use, and does not benefit me? I could care less if there was no Amtrack along with 97% of the people in this country. The people that use it can pay the real cost or needs to go away.
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CSX owns the rails, regardless of who's train is on it.
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I hear it's speed was automated. Autopilots are great until they fail. In 2013 an Amtrack disrailed in NYC, it was also going 100 around a 30MPH curve. Co-incidence? I'm thinking 100 is terminal velocity, when that autopilot fails and the engineer is too busy looking at his Iphone bad things happen. And they want us to ride in automated cars.
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Funny how when a truck crashes it is the drivers fault. Period. He will be fined on the spot, for something, and have to go to court to defend himself. But when these things happen they have to investigate and take forever to make a determination. Not saying it is always the engineer, but he does not have to steer and there is not a lot of traffic to watch out for. If anything but a train is on the tracks it is understood that it should not have been there. Not a railroader and I am sure there is a lot I do not understand but JMHO
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Was a drug screen done or did this guy leave to sober up?
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I'm betting the Engineer was drunk, since he's already lawyered up. Hope I'm wrong, but they said he applied the brakes AFTER the train started in to the curb
at 106 mph
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I'm betting the Engineer was drunk, since he's already lawyered up. Hope I'm wrong, but they said he applied the brakes AFTER the train started in to the curb
at 106 mph They will know pretty much right away. After any fatality the engineer has to give blood for a tox screen pretty much as soon as they get him off the engine even if it's a road crossing accident.
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I'd investigate his political leanings as well.. Home grown perhaps. I see no way that this was an accident.
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There is an article out now, fairly informative, that indicates that he's a gay rights activist...so you can pretty well guess where his political sympathies are. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nvestigators-statement-deadly-crash.html
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They won't need a court order for his cell records, ntsb probably had them within hours of the crash. Not sure what the max speed for that subdivision is but for most of the country except for certain places on the east coast, with certain trains max speed for passenger trains is 90mph. At 3-5 over the max speed the engines over speed sensor would have set the bakes unless manually cut out. If the engineer put the train in emergency I would guess it was a mistake not a deliberate act. If the conductor did it from back in the train it would make me wonder. That is something the event recorder data will tell them.
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