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If you can't find Lee dies which brand do you settle for as a close second?



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Originally Posted by DixieFreedomz
If you can't find Lee dies which brand do you settle for as a close second?



Nothing wrong with RCBS--they make accurate ammo.

For me, Lee dies tend to be towards the bottom of the list--don't get me wrong, Lee's are good dies......

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I like the Redding 3 pc sets....Forster also.....


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Redding dies, even if Lee were available.


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After my experience with RCBS last eek, I'll be going with them for most of my needs.
I bought an APS strip loader from SW about three months ago. then a couple weeks ago I was gonna use it for loading up some .223's...Well upon opening it I notice that someone broke the small primer plug & while fiddleing with it I also notice that when I screw the large primer plug in, it just keeps turning, like the threads on the primer rod are stripped...hmmm
Well I call RCBS & tell them about the problem & how I need a small primer plug & how I think Sportsmans warehouse took back a return that had broken parts...Well a couple days ago I got three new parts from them...Primer pd assy., & large & small primer plugs...free...no charge.
It's that type of customer service that makes me a return customer...Same as with Leupold scopes.

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RCBS does have customer service that is second to none. They are alot like Dillon.

The only dies I refuse to bring home are Hornady dies. I literally threw a set of them in the trash.


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Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
After my experience with RCBS last eek, I'll be going with them for most of my needs.
I bought an APS strip loader from SW about three months ago. then a couple weeks ago I was gonna use it for loading up some .223's...Well upon opening it I notice that someone broke the small primer plug & while fiddleing with it I also notice that when I screw the large primer plug in, it just keeps turning, like the threads on the primer rod are stripped...hmmm
Well I call RCBS & tell them about the problem & how I need a small primer plug & how I think Sportsmans warehouse took back a return that had broken parts...Well a couple days ago I got three new parts from them...Primer pd assy., & large & small primer plugs...free...no charge.
It's that type of customer service that makes me a return customer...Same as with Leupold scopes.


RCBS has the best warranty on the planet of any manufacturer of any kind of item.

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A close second to Lee? There is none. Thay're at the bottom as far as I'm concerned. Most of my dies are Forster's with some RCBS and Redding.
The Forster competition seater is the best of the bunch IMHO.
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I have more RCBS dies that any other brand. I like their dies and other products also. As previously stated, RCBS customer service is excellent.


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Redding is always my first choice, RCBS and Forster are good, too. Lee's are on the list, just above Hornady, but it's a long list.


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RCBS is my first then Hornady, most of my RCBS are the older green box that I have been using for 30 yrs or so.



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I use RCBS and Redding. I like the adjustment knobs on the Redding significantly more than the screws on the RCBS. However, like others have stated, I too had a problem with a RCBS die and they fixed it without question or hassle.

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Rest assured, you can't go wrong with any of them. Strong personal opinions aside, there is no material advantage to any die brand other than that the Redding and Forster BR types, and they aren't ahead by very much.


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Well, that depends. If you are a fan of Lee dies because of the Lee Collet Neck Sizer and they are not available in your caliber, then the next best choice of dies WITHOUT THE EXPANDER BUTTON are the Redding bushing dies. Although others are also making bushing dies now.

If you like the regular Lee Full Length dies with the expander then almost any die manufacturer would be better as posted above. There are lots of better seaters from other manufacturers, especially the competition seaters.

If dollars are your main concern then find your best deal among RCBS, Redding or Forster and go for it. They will cost more than the Lees but they will be better dies.


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WOW! Bunch o Lee haters! In any case...

Thanks for the replies!

But could someone please explain from a machinist and engineering perspective with technical facts as to why you don't like Lee?



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I always use the green stuff....

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Just read the Barsness article on seating bullets straightly and he gives high praise to the Lee dies.



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Originally Posted by DixieFreedomz
Just read the Barsness article on seating bullets straightly and he gives high praise to the Lee dies.



I learned a long time ago to take a gun writer with a grain of salt.




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Die technology is not complicated and all of the above mentioned die manufactures put out similar products despite the dissimilar price points.

The unique exception is the Lee collet die and that is a product well worth considering if one is resizing just the case neck.

In many instances, it ain't the tool, it is the tool user that determines if the tool works satisfactorily or not.



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"Just read the Barsness article on seating bullets straightly and he gives high praise to the Lee dies."

"There are lots of better seaters from other manufacturers (than Lee), especially the competition seaters."

Well, I agree there are two better seaters - Foster and Redding - but from what I know of the very high priced RCBS "competition" seaters, they are no better for concintricity than common seaters.

As Carbon says, user skill has a lot more to do with quality ammo than the brand of tools. A skilled hand loader can make good stuff on any brand. An unskilled reloader can't....

No offense intended, but those who "only use brand "X" really no experience base to expond on the merits of much. I've used, and measured, ammo from all dies, and know there is no average "quality" difference between brands. Lee's dies are as good as any of our common brands/models.

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