Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire not to flog the dead AGW horse again but....

this summary, via Powerline from Icecap.com, is the most succinct and effective summary of the situation I have read. It should be tattoed on the torsos of the Warmist freaks who gathered in the blizzard in Copenhagen:

In the wake of Climategate, common sense deniers like to say that there is lots of other evidence for global warming, in addition to that which has been debunked by the East Anglia whistleblower. Actually, however, the scientific evidence for AGW is remarkably weak. At Icecap, Lee Gerhard, geologist and reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, sums up the key scientific evidence with admirable brevity:

It is crucial that scientists are factually accurate when they do speak out, that they ignore media hype and maintain a clinical detachment from social or other agendas. There are facts and data that are ignored in the maelstrom of social and economic agendas swirling about Copenhagen. Greenhouse gases and their effects are well-known. Here are some of things we know:

� The most effective greenhouse gas is water vapor, comprising approximately 95 percent of the total greenhouse effect.

� Carbon dioxide concentration has been continually rising for nearly 100 years. It continues to rise, but carbon dioxide concentrations at present are near the lowest in geologic history.

� Temperature change correlation with carbon dioxide levels is not statistically significant.

� There are no data that definitively relate carbon dioxide levels to temperature changes.

� The greenhouse effect of carbon dioxide logarithmically declines with increasing concentration. At present levels, any additional carbon dioxide can have very little effect.

We also know a lot about Earth temperature changes:

� Global temperature changes naturally all of the time, in both directions and at many scales of intensity.

� The warmest year in the U.S. in the last century was 1934, not 1998. The U.S. has the best and most extensive temperature records in the world.

� Global temperature peaked in 1998 on the current 60-80 year cycle, and has been episodically declining ever since. This cooling absolutely falsifies claims that human carbon dioxide emissions are a controlling factor in Earth temperature.

� Voluminous historic records demonstrate the Medieval Climate Optimum (MCO) was real and that the "hockey stick" graphic that attempted to deny that fact was at best bad science. The MCO was considerably warmer than the end of the 20th century.

� During the last 100 years, temperature has both risen and fallen, including the present cooling. All the changes in temperature of the last 100 years are in normal historic ranges, both in absolute value and, most importantly, rate of change.

Contrary to many public statements:

� Effects of temperature change are absolutely independent of the cause of the temperature change.

� Global hurricane, cyclonic and major storm activity is near 30-year lows. Any increase in cost of damages by storms is a product of increasing population density in vulnerable areas such as along the shores and property value inflation, not due to any increase in frequency or severity of storms.

� Polar bears have survived and thrived over periods of extreme cold and extreme warmth over hundreds of thousands of years extremes far in excess of modern temperature changes.

� The 2009 minimum Arctic ice extent was significantly larger than the previous two years. The 2009 Antarctic maximum ice extent was significantly above the 30-year average. There are only 30 years of records.

� Rate and magnitude of sea level changes observed during the last 100 years are within normal historical ranges. Current sea level rise is tiny and, at most, justifies a prediction of perhaps ten centimeters rise in this century.

The present climate debate is a classic conflict between data and computer programs. The computer programs are the source of concern over climate change and global warming, not the data. Data are measurements. Computer programs are artificial constructs.

Public announcements use a great deal of hyperbole and inflammatory language. For instance, the word "ever" is misused by media and in public pronouncements alike. It does not mean "in the last 20 years," or "the last 70 years." "Ever" means the last 4.5 billion years.

For example, some argue that the Arctic is melting, with the warmest-ever temperatures. One should ask, "How long is ever?" The answer is since 1979. And then ask, "Is it still warming?" The answer is unequivocally "No." Earth temperatures are cooling. Similarly, the word "unprecedented" cannot be legitimately used to describe any climate change in the last 8,000 years.

Send those stupid bastidges up here. I have plenty of global warming to go around right now.....

ha! ha! we just got back from sledding - it's a balmy 12* (and on it's way down)

Not nice enuf to sled here.....to much global warming with up to 50 mph winds and temps to match yours.

Evidence Schemivende You're now marked for assimilation by the new world order.

Past two days had snow in areas that hadn't scene any for decades. 2/3 of Continental US is snow covered. I wonder if Al Gore owns a snowblower?

Sunny, calm and chilly here above 4000 feet elevation. Cross country skis worked fine first trek of the season. The only warming evident was me sweating within the first mile. Beautiful day up on the hill.

They just don't understand do they?

They certainly understand how to make the "facts" fit their agenda.

and that my friend is their prime objective

On Drudge today....2/3 of the US states saw snow on either Chhristmas Eve or Christmas day.

it was 70F here this morning. Damn warm for December.

About average here.
High teens-I just got back from a bicycle ride and froze my azz off.

Sure didn't seem like global warming out there!

Ok it is official.....we are having a blizzard....throw another log on the fire.........and pass the Makers Mark!

Biggest snowfall ever in Dec in Baltimore areas was last weekend.

Of course, in "ever" I mean in the last couple hundred years, not 4 billion.

Heart attack snow here today. 5 inches of it on top of yesterdays 6.

This one is always a hoot. As if damage is relevant in any way, shape or form. A Cat 3 is a Cat 3 is a Cat 3. We have detailed records of all Atlantic hurricanes for the last 100 years. Other than 2004 which was a perfect storm of Tropical activity, the past 20 years is no different in number or intensity of hurricanes for the past 100 years.

Major ice storm here... my wife had to camp out at her office because she is the on call doc at the hospital... global warming....bah humbug.

As an operative for the Republican Party, Stevers has already been well assimilated.......not much more anybody else can do to him.....



Casey