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Has anyone here bought, and shot one yet?Thoughts and impressions? Results?

I don't have a Roberts right now and am getting sorely tempted...

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Bob.."Rifle Shooter" magazine has a article on the Kimber Model 84 in 257 in Sept/Oct issue.


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I'm also tempted!!!!!


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oldguns: Yes, I was reading the article this morning.I don't have a Roberts right now because,after owning a slew of them in past years,I wanted my next one to be more or less "just right".I like the looks and features of the Kimber,but am just a touch leary of the QC,barrels,etc. and am wondering whether to leap ahead.

I am sort of tempted to do it with full knowledge that I may have to send it to a good smith for some "doctoring" if it doesn't behave.But the basics are there,so I'm looking for some input from folks who may own one and have shot it.

The article is kind of funny because Rupp talks about the 10"twist being a problem with heavier bullets,and says handloading is the answer; well IMHE handloading MAY be the answer, but the REAL solution is a faster twist if you want to use heavier bullets.I am a bit surprised that Kimber did not stick a faster twist barrel on the rifle.

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Isnt Cooper chambering a .257 AI?
Now there's a Rifle...!


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POPGUN:Yes, the Cooper is a fine rifle, but I don't want a single shot.And I don't want an Ackeley Improved,since I've used the standard Roberts to a bit over 400 yards on pronghorn and varmints and don't find it lacking in any regard.I have had more than one Roberts that hit 3200 with a 100 gr bullet.Good enough smile




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I like the 84M quite a bit and we shoot three of them in 243, 7-08 and 308.

I was going to question the rifles magazine length of 2.81" but the Roberts lists a COL of less than 2.8" in one manual here. The case is 2.23" long however. To each his own.

To me the 243 shoots a better selection of varmint bullets and its not what I choose for deer anyway.

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BobNH I think he was referring to the Cooper Model 52 which is a repeater. Not that you want the AI but it is a repeater.


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Bob-just add a 110 TSX or Accu to your fine lil 270 and call it a day.... smirk

It'll save you a bunch of coin, and perhaps challenges, as well the 270 basically pounds hell out of the Roberts...grin

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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
BobNH I think he was referring to the Cooper Model 52 which is a repeater. Not that you want the AI but it is a repeater.


Pretty sure they are only offering the 30-06 family of cartridges in the model 52 repeater. Shame, a 7x57 or 7-08 Cooper 52 would be nice.


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Dober: Yes; like I said last week,the new boolits narrows the need for little guns...I should follow my own advice:just shoot a 270 grin




The 280 Remington is overbore.

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No to a 270 in this story. The rifle is important too and a Kimber 84M is a very neat small rifle and most 270's and in particular the Kimber version is much larger.

Also the .277" takes it out of the small bullet varmint class. Ricochets matter.

To add since I am not a .257" fan I looked up a pest bullet and found this: 25 Cal. V-MAX 75 gr. BC 0.290

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everybody seems to favor slower twists and lighter bullets these days....I must have read that somewhere...I wonder where?


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Not from me? Expand on your point.

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Originally Posted by Savage_99
No to a 270 in this story. The rifle is important too and a Kimber 84M is a very neat small rifle and most 270's and in particular the Kimber version is much larger.

Also the .277" takes it out of the small bullet varmint class. Richocets matter.

To add since I am not a .257" fan I looked up a pest bullet and found this: 25 Cal. V-MAX 75 gr. BC 0.290



I think that you misunderstood us, we weren't talking about Bob getting a new Kimber in a 270, we were talking about him using one of the 270's that he already has and then taking the moolah that he'd spend on another rifle and going hunting.

Capiche?

But yes, I agree I would in no way buy a new Kimber in a 270 or 06 or one of the magnum cals.

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Originally Posted by Foxbat

Pretty sure they are only offering the 30-06 family of cartridges in the model 52 repeater. Shame, a 7x57 or 7-08 Cooper 52 would be nice.


Yep, hope they expand but the list right now is

30-06
25-06
25-06AI
30-06
270
280
280AI
338-06
35 Whelen

Even still, at 7 3/4 lbs it's not a Kimber at less than 6 (assuming the Bob will go one the 84M line)

I own both a Cooper M22 and a Kimber 84M and love them both but the Cooper is a different level of rifle for a chunk more money. They've just never been light.


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
POPGUN:Yes, the Cooper is a fine rifle, but I don't want a single shot.And I don't want an Ackeley Improved,since I've used the standard Roberts to a bit over 400 yards on pronghorn and varmints and don't find it lacking in any regard.I have had more than one Roberts that hit 3200 with a 100 gr bullet.Good enough smile


I share your like for the Roberts Bob.
I've got 4 as we speak and have owned others over the years.
Currently a M-700 Mountain Rifle out of the early production.
A Ruger 77 Round Top receiver and a later M-77 tang safety job which is my primary light carry rifle.
Then there's an old M-722 with Lyman peep sight that belonged to my Grandfather.
Dont know if I'll be able to walk past the next M-70 Featherweight I see although I've owned and parted with 3 of them over the years.


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Ive owned a half dozen 257 Roberts and loved em all,Deadly,accurate,easy to shoot and knock the socks off big game,
I dont own a 270 win. and probably never will,I dont knock em they are a fine round but I abused myself a lot more than was needed when I was younger and Ill just choose the Roberts over the 270 however you cut it,so when someone tells you that the 270 pounds HELL out of the Roberts now you know why I choose the Roberts....


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I don't think that I misunderstood you. I mentioned "most 270's"
and that includes all that I have ever seen are larger rifles than the little Kimber.

Then you have a 110 grain bullet thats really big for ricochet safety. There seems to me to be quite a jump in rifle size and cartridge here. The .257 is still a small bore and could be a true varminter. Not the 270.

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I'm going to have a hard time keeping the Cabela's card in the pocket when I get my hands on a Classic Select Grade Bob.....


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