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I was in my office (can) :)early this morning reading an old Hornady Manual and it was talking about the 7/08 and how it was brought out in 1980.
Amazing to me that the lil 7 has been with us 3 decades as a factory round already...where does the time go
Dober
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I don't know Dober...you've seen the ugly old dude Ive got to look at in the mirror everyday..he was SUCH a stud in 1980!! Ingwe
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I don't know Dober...you've seen the ugly old dude Ive got to look at in the mirror everyday..he was SUCH a stud in 1980!! Ingwe Not to high jack, but... LMAO
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No kidding where did all those years go,time flys when your hunting and shooting great guns!
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I love reading through loading manuals myself, Dober. I probably have the same Hornady manual you were looking at. Published in 1981 or 1982 I believe. Not long after the plane crash. I really enjoy perusing through my Nosler manual with the prefaces by different authors including Mr. Ken Howell, John Barsness, Steve Timm, Kenny Jarrett, plus Chuck Yeager for the 300 Wby and Hank Jr. for the 45 Colt. How cool is that!
My 7mm-08 isn't quite the traditional handy short barreled rifle. It's a rechambered XP 100 pistol but with a scope it averages around 0.65" at 100 yds with the 140 gr BT. It definitely has become one of my favorite cartridges.
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I didn't acquire one until 1997. It's been a favorite though.
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The biggest black bear I've ever seen killed was shot with a 7mm08 from a 788, circa 1984
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Not a bad first three decades for the 7mm SGLC.
(see if anybody knows that reference.)
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Hard to give Layne Simpson credit for the round...
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The first 7MM-08 I ever laid eyes on was a Remington 700V at a shooting range in PA probably around 1981.
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That's a thread killer......
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Not a bad first three decades for the 7mm SGLC.
(see if anybody knows that reference.) Thats an easy one! There are two gunwriters who have termed the 7-08AI the SLGC: Layne Simpson - SLGC = Simpson's Good Little Cartridge Steve Timm - SLGC = Steve's Good Little Cartridge I've built a couple, they work. But so does the std version. MtnHtr
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My favorite short-action cartridge. Accurate, enough power, flat-enough trajectory and little recoil.
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The 7-08 is sort of a .270 improved...
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That's a thread killer...... Uh, yeah (grin).
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Hard to give Layne Simpson credit for the round... Curious as to why? MtnHtr
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Hard to give Layne Simpson credit for the round... Curious as to why? MtnHtr It was necked down to 7mm looooong before Layne Simpson did it... just like Jim Charmichael didn't "invent" the 6.5mm-08...
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I disagree, the 7mm-08 is just a short 270, that isn't quite the equal, but sure is close enough to not argue about.
I just recently worked up some loads for a youth 7mm-o8 and recently acquired another. I like the cartridge, but it isn't a 270 from my range results.
For some reason I have the itch to get an AR in 7mm-08. I figure it is the closest I will ever get to a 270 class cartridge in that configuration.
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Layne can take credit for the SGLC, its the improved version 7-08. I think it was in the early to mid-seventies when Layne necked it down, but he also included the Ackley touch. So he takes credit for the first 7-08AI. IIRC, Steve Timm did the same in the late nineties but the std 7-08 was already established. He wrote an excellent article about it in the Varmint Hunter magazine though I think his loads were a bit warm - lols!
Both gunwriters are referring to the 7-08AI when they state "SGLC".
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Several years ago I encountered a Winchester pre-64 M70 custom rifle that was stamped 7x308 Winchester. This was probably the late 90s if I remember correctly.
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