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65BR thread was a good one. I didn't want to hijack that thread so i started this thread to possibly get an answer.

In the thread mentioned in the title it seems like the 30-06 with a 180g Partition was the cal. & bullet of choice.IMO a very logical choice.

So my question: I've been looking @ buy a rifle in 260 rem. I went onto Hornadys & Noslers sites and looked at the BC & SD of Hornadys Interlock & Noslers Partition.

Hornady Interlock 6.5mm 140g has a BC of 465 & an SD of 287.
Same bullet except with a BT in 30 cal. 180g has a BC of 452 & an SD of 271.

Nosler Partition 6.5mm 140g has a BC of 490 & an SD of 287.
Same bullet in 30cal. 180g has a BC of 474 & an SD of271.

So will the 6.5 take game as effectively with the same bullet type in 140g as the 30cal with a 180g?


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Depends on the bullet, the animal and bullet placement. But probably ........mabe........could be..........not.


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not....


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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What's missing from the equation is the difference in diameter between the .260 and .308 bullet, both expanded and unexpanded. The larger diameter bullet will always be more effective.


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Going against the grain (180) is bad mojo..... whistle


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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I'd argue that unless you've shot a gaggle of decent sized game with both, you're not qualified to do more than guess.

I can tell you that in my limited experience with elk and 6.5mm 140 partitions, we never caught one. We didn't shoot any up the azz, either.


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A 6.5mm 140 Partition from a 260 will out-penetrate a 30 cal 180 NP from a 30-06 so it's not surprising you've never found one.


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I wouldn't find myself handicapped with either, and know both to be VERY effective...


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The best rifle is whatever the best hunter has in his hands. IMO.


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Originally Posted by Brad
The best rifle is whatever the best hunter has in his hands. IMO.


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The Swedes seem to do well with the 6.5mm

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Perhaps, but a 3" dicked man will never strike oil.


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Given the choice of only those two, I'd likely take the 6.5/140, if simply for the inherently quicker shifting and noticeably shorter rifle length...


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Perhaps, but a 3" dicked man will never strike oil.


God gave donkeys big dicks cause he gave them schitt for brains. wink


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1/2" shorter rifle and bolt throw?

Never found it to matter...

But the 260 recoils less and therein is its beauty.


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My view of the world.... smile

Not reflected in the numbers(other ways of attempting to quantify killing effectivness,which sometimes fall on their face)is the additional bullet weight (material),increased expanded frontal area,jacket/core design(construction), striking velocity being similar,which in the aggragate "should" result in the 30 caliber creating a more severe and extensive wound channel,and increased wounding capability,ie ability to induce trauma.....the reason why folks like Formidilosis observe soft tissue "lights out" effect from some 30 cal bullets to a greater degree than anything smaller but of similar design.

Does this mean that with a hit through the vitals that an animal will survive a hit from the 6.5 but succumb to the 30 caliber? No;not really because the animals can only stand so much trauma before they succumb.......yet if you shoot enough game with both under enough circumstances (not just talking deer here which are really not much of a test)you might see more physical damage from the 30 caliber over the long haul,all things being equal.

All of this is only generally related to the "numbers",which have no real bearing on any of it except in a broad and general sense.SD is only relevant before the bullet strikes,and from there it's numbers will change substantially and whether it penetrates to administer trauma to vitals depends on its' construction.

In any event,even if you like bullets that come unglued in animals,there is just more bullet material to "lose" with the 30 vs the 6.5;or more to expand, or more to penetrate and break down heavy bone,etc.By any argument,the 30 caliber wins.And the magic ain't in the numbers... smile

All this assumes proper hits thorugh the vitals and neither makes up for sloppy shooting and poor marksmanship.JMHO. grin

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Originally Posted by Gravestone
So will the 6.5 take game as effectively with the same bullet type in 140g as the 30cal with a 180g?



Not a gunwriter.

Just to be clear, are you asking about real life game animals that die when hit by bullets through vitals, or super-tough armor plated internet game animals?

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Kind of an extreme example, but the short little purple bastard gets WAY more play, and has many more notches in her bedpost...

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E.T.A. that's a 24" long action, and a 16" short action.

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Yup......One can debate the physics of what each bullet will do mid air based on velocity, SD, and BC all day long and theres even bunches of calculators to help you out. But line up 2 deer at 100 yards and put one of each in the [bleep] boiler room and I don't think there will be a dicks worth of a difference in the results. Just saying......to say otherwise would be purely speculative.

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