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I got into a casual discussion around the fireplace last night and the subject of how many powders I was loading for the 20 or so rifles I and the family shoot on a semi-regular basis. So I went and counted. Basically it comes to 9 that get poured as I think I need to maintain a modest ammo supply. How many do you keep on hand for how many rifles? Maybe I could work new loads and consolidate but I can't always get what I want so I figure it pays to have some variety.
Posted By: Mssgn Re: Too Many Powders or too few? - 03/20/15
I have used a lot of different powders. The last few years you buy whatever you can get and find a way to use them. Some powders are basically duplicates. For instance for loading 12 gauge shells I will use any of 3 or 4 powders that I have used in the past. I'd happily just take whatever one I find first.

But there are 6 powders I look for and would buy more of if I saw them for sale.

Like you, I could get by with fewer if I needed to - but I like to have these 6 on hand.
My goto rifle powders are RL-7, H-335, RL-15, Varget and H-4350. I haven't tried any of the newer powders but given availability, or rather lack thereof, I'm up for trying what I can get my hands on.

I'm not a fan of consolidation as I'm not about to sacrifice accuracy so I can get by with one or two less powders.
Old Doe Shooter,

Because of what I do for a living there are way too many different rifle powders in my loading room, well over 50 at last count. But this is also partly because I also have a wide variety of rifles.

Thirty years ago, before I got into writing about handloading, I did all my rifle loading with 3 powders: Unique for reduced loads, IMR4895 for general use, and H4831 for when a slow burner was needed. After a while I added IMR4350 for when H4831 was a little TOO slow, and everything went downhill from there.

If I had to absolutely pare down my list of powders yet keep most of my rifles, I'd ideally want Li'l Gun, IMR4895, TAC, Big Game, H4350, and Magnum. But since severla of those powders are getting hard to find anymore, I'm switching over to IMR4451 from H4350, and subbing IMR7977 for the slower burners like Magnum and Retumbo.

Haven't found a real all-around replacement for Li'l Gun yet, but am searching.
I suppose I should have posted my list
IMR 3031, 4350, 4831, 4895, 7828, Varget, RL 15, 19, 22. The way it looks I'm going to have to expand my list to CYA or cut down my shooting. It's hard to move away from what you know and like into the unknown, blow a bunch of money and end up frustrated.
Posted By: Gibby Re: Too Many Powders or too few? - 03/20/15

Haven't found a real all-around replacement for Li'l Gun yet, but am searching. [/quote]

I do not think there is one. Close, but not the same.

Love the stuff.
I'd like to settle in on using fewer powders. I'm fairly new to CF loading,so I guess I'm still not settled on powders that do what I want to do in a particular caliber yet. I have loaded for SS for years.

I load for:
12 gauge
20 gauge
28 gauge
44 mag
9mm
223
30-30
30-06
338wm

Powders on shelf:
IMR 4895
IMR 4350
HS7
HS6
H110
Benchmark
Clays
Universal Clays
International Clays
Titewad
2400
R19
Posted By: HawkI Re: Too Many Powders or too few? - 03/21/15
Originally Posted by Gibby

Haven't found a real all-around replacement for Li'l Gun yet, but am searching.


I do not think there is one. Close, but not the same.

Love the stuff. [/quote]

H110, AA1680...300-MP.
Originally Posted by Old_Doe_Shooter
I got into a casual discussion around the fireplace last night and the subject of how many powders I was loading for the 20 or so rifles I and the family shoot on a semi-regular basis. So I went and counted. Basically it comes to 9 that get poured as I think I need to maintain a modest ammo supply. How many do you keep on hand for how many rifles? Maybe I could work new loads and consolidate but I can't always get what I want so I figure it pays to have some variety.

D_S....keep all the powder you have now and get your hands on all the new lots of what you currently have as well as any other powder you can get. It's not getting any easier to find it these days, and....when/if you deplete your current supply... Just work up new loads with your newly acquired supply; One can never have too much reloading supplies on-hand.
However, should you feel the need to rid yourself of some of your excess supply, by all means ship it to me-I'll pay shipping fees, and take all you wish to send.
WILL
Will,
I believe we are thinking along the same lines so don't hold your breath on getting and "leftovers" ....:-) But I do appreciate the neighborly offer.
I have a few dribs and drabs of other powders but rarely use anything but the ones I listed. I want to try the new IMRs but as we all know it's more a matter of "what can I get not what I want" these days.
ODS
I must have 30+ or more powders, but most are in 1 lb. cans and are in various stages of emptiness. One HAS to try a LOT of powders to see what works best, at least he has to if he wants the very best accuracy. When you find what works best is the time to order the bigger cans of that powder. Thus, I think most of us wind up with numerous powder cans at varying stages of partially being filled, and larger kegs of the powders we actually use. Having numerous small lots of powders is an asset for those of us rifle loonies who like to trade a lot, too. We all would like to minimize our "stuff," but reloading, where we HAVE to try different powders in differing guns, isn't a place to compromise, IMHO. Over time, too, it gradually builds up a stock of various stuff to try that didn't work out at top levels the last tiem.

However, those who are OK with less than top level accuracy, "hunting accuracy" it's often called, can definitely pare down their stash. Very few are lucky enough to have the same powders work in very many guns across the board. FWIW?
I gotta a bunch of different powder, accumulated over the years.

When I'm researching a load, I feel deprived if I don't have the powder being pushed as THE perfect powder for that round.

In this era of shortages, many of us have had to rethink "favorite" combos and research available stuff. But, Loonies like doing that, anyway...

DF
Posted By: Gibby Re: Too Many Powders or too few? - 03/21/15
Yea, if my house ever caught fire... there is one area you need to get away from FAST.








It's where my wife keeps all her hair products! Ha.
D_S.. Last I checked(a few days ago), MIDSOUTH SHOOTERS had the new IMRs in stock; some in 1# and some in the larger jugs. I ordered some of the standard powders I've always used and feel comfortable with in my current loads. Picked up a few thou primers while I was at it, too. Give them a call, or check out their site.

WILL
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Too Many Powders or too few? - 03/21/15
I am another one who has a lot of containers that are partially filled, along with more substantial amounts of my standards. I always want to hang onto a little of each powder that I try as a sort of "museum" item for when the supplier decides to quit making it available.
I keep trying to pare it down, consolidation looks simpler these days. But with the latest powder shortages, that had to go out the window. Now I've got a whole bunch of different powders that I've never used before.

ODS,

I have my regulars and a bunch of test powders. The regulars are H1000, R-22, H4831SC, IMR4350, Big Game, R-15, Benchmark, True Blue & Zip. I'd really like to try some Trail Boss.

I watch online and grab a jug when the opportunity presents itself. Last one was a big backorder that took 18 months to fill.
Due to shortages, I'm down to four - H4831SC, H4350, Varget and Lil Gun.
New stuff is great but why chase some minimal benefit when something continues to work over many decades. Plus 8# kegs help diminish the endless searching.
Too much powder or too many types, is like being worried about having too many bullets or too many types of bullets...
Originally Posted by Old_Doe_Shooter
I got into a casual discussion around the fireplace last night and the subject of how many powders I was loading for the 20 or so rifles I and the family shoot on a semi-regular basis. So I went and counted. Basically it comes to 9 that get poured as I think I need to maintain a modest ammo supply. How many do you keep on hand for how many rifles? Maybe I could work new loads and consolidate but I can't always get what I want so I figure it pays to have some variety.


I load for a lot of different cartridges, but to be honest I've narrowed my powders down a bit. Here's how I roll now:

1. H4350
2. RL15
3. H335

A good ol standby powder has and always will be IMR 4350 since it seems to be easier to find than most powders around here...
Posted By: Mssgn Re: Too Many Powders or too few? - 03/23/15
This thread prompted me to rummage through my powder. I turned up 2 pounds of R7 I had bought for load development but never found a load I liked. It didn't take me long to start filling empty brass with it. Half a dozen text groups later and I have a "new" load on my keeper list, and all my 7.62x39 brass has been loaded, but I am now down to ONE pound of R7!
Mssgn

Happy to be of service :-)

ODS
Make it simple. Just use one brand.....Hodgdon!

H-4350
Varget
H-4831
Never ending effort to maintain KISS principal. Decided to solidify all loads using just one powder for three different cartridges. Meant going to 120 Prohunters for the 260. Jury still out on performance but not accuracy. Super consistant. Thinking seating depth matters more than anything now.

IMR 4350.
I tend to have my go to powders, which is inclusive of: Varget, H4895, H4350, H110, Titegroup, and HP-38.

However, I do enjoy experimenting though, which is why I have 16 (that I can think of) other powders on hand. Most of these are single pounds that I picked up while getting my regular powders. I have found loads with most of these that certain firearms like. It makes it nice have extra loads that perform well in a firearm, in case powders become hard to find. Having a broad perspective on types of powders has allowed versatility and has allowed me to keep shooting without much issue!
The cartridges i load for
.45 lc
.243 win.
.260rem
7x57
.300 win mag
8x57

unique for the colt and reduced loads
I could very easily get by with Reloder 17 or one of the other powders in the 4350 class to load all the rest. But what fun would that be....
I have powders left over from other guns that have moved on and need to burn it up.
All told maybe 20 different powders on hand.... too many but somehow not enuff.........
Originally Posted by Old_Doe_Shooter
I suppose I should have posted my list
IMR 3031, 4350, 4831, 4895, 7828, Varget, RL 15, 19, 22.


What cartridges are we talking about?


Okie John
Originally Posted by okie john
Originally Posted by Old_Doe_Shooter
I suppose I should have posted my list
IMR 3031, 4350, 4831, 4895, 7828, Varget, RL 15, 19, 22.


What cartridges are we talking about?


Okie John


22-250, 243, 6mm, 250-3000, 257 R, 25-06, 6.5 X 55, 270, 270Wby, 7-30, 7 x 57, 7-08,7 Rem Mg, 7 Dakota, 30-30, 308, 30-06, 300 Win mg, 300 Wby, 338 Win. 375 H&H, 416 Rem mg, 45-70. In some cases more than one rifle.
We don't really need all the powders...but it is nice to have all the choices..
We also don't need all the carterages out there..
I only uses 5 or 6 on a regular basis...and it pretty much covers everything..
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