Stick (or anyone else) - Any actual use/reviews on the Tract Toric ELR line of scopes? Looking at getting into NRL22 and not in a position to drop 2K+ on glass at this time.



Thanks

Prepare for 10 pages of insults and words that are not really words lol

It's the way of the 'Stick. But, he's our Stick. The guy knows some things but be prepared for a potpourri of insults and "hints". Interesting question. 69 do you have a link to the scope you are looking at ??

kwg

I have a vast experience of sighting 1 3-15 Toric on an exceptionally accurate rifle, so, less than 10MOA of total turret twisting and 15 shots to have a precise 200yd zero.

Not the scope you asked about and a very low round count/amount of actual turret adjustments. So, that should tell you everything you need to know about the unrelated optic you're questioning.

Just thought I'd get things kicked off in the right direction. In all seriousness, I hope you get some useful info.

You my friend, just made Stumpy's day. He lives for this schitt. Not much of a social life, for someone living on Prince of Wales Island, by himself. Heck the county seat there has like 1200 people in it.

Enjoy yourself Schtick!

Big Stick has always been up front and very decent to me , but he might be gone working for a while ,sooner or later he will answer for you. Pete53

https://tractoptics.com/toric-4-25x50-34mm-mrad-elr-rifle-scope

Yes, I realize I'm opening a can of worms but if you can wade through the language and insults, there's a HINT of information to occasionally be found.

The reality is, maybe an ARKEN EP5 would do 99.9% of what I probably need it to do. I'd rather buy something I wanted, vs settling.

I can get a 20% discount on the scope, so around 1200.00. Although I'd like to find a clean used one for some additional savings. Pretty positive reviews on youtube, but don't put a lot of faith in things that may be paid advertisements vs real world use.

There's another forum out there where 'Stick posts.
I'll not post the name of it here, as it's currently free of leg-humpers and I'd prefer it stay that way (I don't even post there, I just read). You can actually read a thread where Big Stick is involved sans the bullshit. There's about 15 years worth of pretty decent info over there if you want to sift through it. It is a slower moving forum than the campfire.

Be aware, you will still have to translate........

But do not post anything on that sight that might be considered in the least bit poetic.

Fer' sure if you're from Tejas.

Ask me how I know!

ya!

GWB

Everything is bigger in Texas,especially The Whine from well practiced Professional Victims. Hint.

Rather than reinvent the fhuqking wheel,Tract woulda' been farrrrrrr ahead from inception,to acknowledge and roll with LOW proven merits. They are starting to connect dots and I may throw a dart at the board. Couldn't be any fhuqking worse,than a new Reupold! Hint.

Just sayin'.............

That puppy has a lot of clicks up and down. You must really want to shoot a long way.

kwg

Their 4.5-30x56 looks and specs just like a weaver tactical I own. Their toric 1" stuff is basically weaver super slam stuff. Definitely looks like LOw stuff which I typically have good luck with.

Bb

Not Stick (thank goodness), but purchased one of Tract's big boys when they first came out during Covtard. It is massive, heavy, built like a tank, and a hell of a nice scope....

I am waiting for this to be released, don't need assurance from these window likken ftards

Will just comment that the Torics have been made by LOW (Light Optical Works) since Tract started up. The company was formed in the 1950s as a manufacturer to produce optics for other companies, and the first rifle scope anybody purchased in my family was a 2.5x LOW made for Montgomery Ward, which my father bought at the local "Monkey Wards" store for around $20 in the early 1960s. I still have it, and it still works...

These days LOW manufactures a bunch of reliable dialing scopes for various companies. This has been discussed recently here, with a list of which companies, but they include Nightforce. One of the other "brands," however, is Weaver. LOW made the Weaver Super Slams, which appeared around 20 years ago, and I have two 3-15x Super Slams on varmint rifles that have been dialed a LOT over the decades, and are still working very precisely.....

LiL Fish couldn't spell LOW 2 months ago and now she wants to be an expert.

I well remember when The TRACT Monkeys arrived and had the cart so fhuqking far in front of the horse,that it was fhuqking hilarious! Hint.

Frost same will bullschit claims and Goat Fhuqked feature sets,rather than roll the good stuff LOW already had going,was/is plum fhuqking amazing.Hint.

Today was yet another LOW Day,amongst others. Hint.





Too bad Reupold can't take a fhuqking hint and build something worth a fhuqk,by simply stamping their name on LOW wares. Hint.

Plum flattering,how I consume EVERY thought of Squirms and just how many times a day she thinks about me...the "lucky" kchunt. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

NRL22 is long-range rimfire. My Rem 541 shooting 40gn high velocity Power Point Winchester ammo zero'd @ 50yds needs another 6MOA to be zero'd @ 100yds. Imagine std velocity ammo @ 300yds+, you need a LOT of scope travel.

Looking to put it on a .22 and would be fun to try and shoot 300-400 yards occasionally.


Appreciate the input from those with experience and thanks for the insight MD. Scope looks pretty close to the Zeiss S3 when side by side.

The one I’ve been drooling over goes 27oz, too much to tote around, but okay on my fat-barreled AR, which is already an anvil. Gotta let the smoke clear from some other notions I pursued though……

High Velocity ammo,is the worst thing you can do to yourself,with LR Rimfire. Firstly,you don't want to break and then pass back through the Sonic Barrier. Secondly,BC and consistency matter wayyyyyyy more than a bunch. Hint.

Give the aforementioned Winny fodder(junk) a 200fps head start at the muzzle,over say some Eley EPS and the "slower" Eley will kick its ass. That in both Accuracy/Precision,ES/SD and wind drift. 500yd full value 10mph drift is 119" for the W/W and 84.7" for the Eley. Hint.

I tend to set up my LR Rimfires with 40+ Mil's of available erector from a 50yd zero and then obviously 10 or more on the windshield. Typically that's 75 MOA of inclination. Hint.

Just sayin'................

I shoot my 22 @ 100yds maybe 2x-3x per year, usually just to confirm zero prior to our winter club match. I was mostly pointing out that shooting a 22LR past a football field starts to use up travel pretty fast, that's all. My 22's primarily for small furry ground-dwellers and broken chips of clay pigeons on our 100yd backstop.

I like to know the capabilities of a platform and everything below "zero" on an erector,is 100% worthless. Hint.

Few platforms will reveal so much,so fast,as LR Rimfire Pursuits with World Class wares. I've a herd that will get me to 700yds+ and nothing else begins to approach the fun. Hint.

I've yet to suffer a scope that had "too much" erector travel,or tracked, held zero and repeated "too well". I patiently await the plight. Hint................(grin)

Lol John "i only threaten to hunt people down when I drink NyQuil" Burns

Very nice!

Interested to see what you think about that 4HD

I'm awaiting a pard's arrival this late afternoon,then it's a matter of setting him up with new Feesh Riggin',then pounding on Chrome. Hint.

I only took 4wks off,so should be able to coordinate time with the weather. Doing my Rain Dance now and it's working. Hint...................(grin)

Oh, he knows some things alright....as does Joe Biden.
If he only knew 1/10 of what he thinks he knows he would be at the 5th grade level.

I have that Tract scope. Like it quite a bit. It has a ton of adjustment range, so it spent most of its time with me on an accurate 22LR boltgun shooting at plates fairly far out. I did spend quite a significant amount of time shooting off of barricades, tripods, tires, etc. It was fairly easy to use and keep the sight picture for positional training. Optically, it looks quite good and keep the image quality within about 60% of the travel with minimum degradation. All scopes start losing image quality as you get further away from optical center and this one is not an exception. Thankfully, that is mostly restricted to the edges, so it has not been a hindrance.

Arken EP5 is OK if you get one that works. Anecdotally, the odds of that are in the 60% to 70% range. About a third of them seem to have something or other wrong.

These two are in no way competitive with each other, nor are they priced the same.

ILya

His IIR (Insult to Information Ratio) is impressive. I've believe he's currently running it at 11.374

While the Big Stick to bull schitt ratio always pegs 100%

Pardon wares that exist ladies,as you Pretend aloud. Hint.

NOTHING is fhuqking funnier than a Professional Victim and her Imaginary Pretend Ignore,extolling her very WELL founded Insecurities,ala Hurt Feeler Reports. Hint.



Though I don't have that many EP5's compared to their other offerings,I've yet to have an issue. I muchly prefer '16x. Hint.

Just sayin'...............

I don't know anything about the Tract scope in question, but do know a tiny bit about NRL 22 after shooting a couple of matches. The reticle on the tract scope looks usable, I found it useful to dial one range and hold for the other distances on the reticle while on the clock on several stages.

I will say I used a cheap scope to stay in base class, and beat a couple of open shooters with Nightforce and Vortex scopes that cost more than my entire setup. As long as it tracks, you don't need alpha glass to compete. But that's the challenge in finding a scope.