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I tried a 50mm scope on one of my rifles for an egg match and for load developement and had to use such high rings that I ended up having to install an adjustable cheek peice to be able to shoot the gun accurately. So where do you used these monsters. I'm not much of a big game hunter any more but have hunted coyotes in five states so far this year and find my 1.5x6x40mm more than adequate and I don't even have any hunting hour restrictions.
They are good for propping a window open.
Originally Posted by Swampman700
They are good for propping a window open.


smile
I am not a fan. I don't like to have to use high rings, and not get a cheek weld. I also don't like the fact that the objective is wider than the forend, which makes it bump into everything.
I have two.. One on a Target rifle with a 32X top end.

The other is on a rifle I built as a beanfield type rifle. My feeling is that for shooting little brown deer against a little brown background at longer ranges magnification helps and if you you want exit pupil at magnification then you need objective.

Do big objective scopes require higher rings? sure. If you want to do it right you will need a stock design that lines things up for you. Common sense.

Of course a 50mm scope will weigh more than a 40mm, so I amnot sure I would want to to drag one around colorado, but I guess I can manage carrying it a few hundred yards to a deer stand or from the car to the fireing line.

Do 40mm scopes work? Sure they do.. well until you find some circumstance that they don't.

If I was limited to one rifle would it have 50mm obj, no it wouldn't. Luckily I can have more than one rifle.
It sounds like you either have a poorly shaped stock or a weird face structure. Also, most 50mm objective scopes will go into medium rings which aren't very high at all, it depends upon the base height and barrel contour among other things.

Nothing seems to get the scope nazis worked up here more than guys owning big objective scopes. It's like mentioning an AR-15 to a democrat, they start frothing at the mouth about how nobody needs to own one of THOSE things.

The fact of the matter is that nobody really needs a scope at all, iron sights worked for a bunch of people for many hundreds of years. Scopes are a shooting luxury and as such it's up to the user to determine which aspects of that luxury he values more. Some people want more magnification, others want top quality optics, others prize durability at the expense of weight, and others just want something cheap. We all have our criteria for choosing a scope and thankfully there are a bunch of them available for any desire. If you see someone with a high end european scope with a 50-56mm then you can deduce that low light gathering ability is important to him. Your 1.5-6x40 might please you, but generally I want more magnification than that. To keep the scope bright at last light with a deer in the shadows 200 yds away on a food plot I want good glass, high magnification, and a big objective. If you're coyote calling with shots usually under 50 yds & a colored lens spotlight at night, something else might be more optimum.

Choose what works for you and let others choose what works for them. Big objective scopes were typically designed for low light shooting to maintain brightness as you turn up the power. The guys that seem to hate them the most seem to be the western hunters who aim to be back at camp before the sun sets, they can't seem to understand that not everyone hunts that way. To an eastern whitetail hunter the last five minutes of daylight usually provides more quality hunting than the entire rest of the day, if your equipment can't hack it when the light gets low then you're wasting your time. I don't care that it doesn't handle quite as well as rifle with a 2.5-8x36 leupold, it matters none at all when it's slung over my back for the 1/4 mile mostly flat walk to my stand. I also don't care that it's an inch longer, 3 oz. heavier, or sits .125" higher in the rings, those are easy enough to deal with for the extra performance it gives me in my hunting environment.

If one doesn't work for you then don't buy one, but don't dismiss that no one "needs" one because they don't fill your desires. Your hunting conditions aren't the same as the guys using them.
The fact of the matter is that nobody really needs a firearm at all, rock and sticks worked for a bunch of people for many hundreds of years. Guns are a luxury and as such it's up to the user to determine which aspects of that luxury he values more. Some people want more range, others want top quality accuracy, others prize durability at the expense of weight, and others just want something cheap. We all have our criteria for choosing a gun and thankfully there are a bunch of them available for any desire. If you see someone with a high end Weatherby rifle with a high velocity load then you can deduce that bragging is important to him. Your sticks and stones might please you, but generally I want more performance than that. To keep the rifle useful at last light with a deer in the shadows 200 yds away on a food plot I want good flat shooting rifle, high velocity, and a big bullet. If you're coyote calling with shots usually under 10 yds & a colored rock or something else might be more optimum.
Originally Posted by Swampman700
They are good for propping a window open.

you open your mouth and and confirm your ignorance.
what make rifle was it? Sounds like a stock issue.
I use them on just about every hunting rifle I have unless its an ultra-lightweight rig. A few ounces is totally worth the better brighter view. Swaro Z6 2-12x50 with TDS - best scopes I've ever used.
I bought my first and last 50mm scope years ago. I compared it against my regular VX3's. My eyes frankly couldn't see any differance in legal hunting light. I've saved myself thousands of dollars since then.
I was just curious, see the arguments here all the time and now people are talking 56mm scopes and was trying to fiquer out where they are being used.

I tried mine on a couple of heavy barreled target/varmint rigs custom barreled 722 with a 700ADL style stock and aheavy barrel Savage 11. I do have high cheek bones and am very comfortable with 20mm scopes in the lowest posible rings.

Sounds like most of these scopes arebeing used in euro style hunting hochhause and very early and late in the day.

Thanks for the replies I wasn't trying to be judgemental just curious, tried one and it was a disaster
Originally Posted by jimmyp
Originally Posted by Swampman700
They are good for propping a window open.

you open your mouth and and confirm your ignorance.



There are few things more gay than a 50mm scope. You've proven your gayness.
Personally,I'm a fan of smaller objectives.I wish there were more quality 36mm objective scopes.
I had one for for about 4 months, sold it today. Got an incredible deal on a new Weaver Super Slam ebx 2-10x50, absolutely loved the glass, the reticle was the best looking I've ever owned...I really wanted to like the scope, took two deer with it in November...just seamed awkward in the high Burris rings and frankly with that big bell it was fugly on my rifle. Debating what to replace it with this summer.
Originally Posted by Swampman700
Originally Posted by jimmyp
Originally Posted by Swampman700
They are good for propping a window open.

you open your mouth and and confirm your ignorance.



There are few things more gay than a 50mm scope. You've proven your gayness.


Please continue to burnish your role as campfire idiot, we all need a good laugh from time to time.
If you want to look ignorant then get the 50mm. Most Walmart shoppers do.

find that scope at Walmart.

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Not my pic, not my scope, not my rifle. I'm straight...
Please continue to burnish your image as resident campfire idiot.
Originally Posted by jimmyp
Please continue to burnish your image as resident campfire idiot.


He is king of the hill in that competition and no one is even seriously challenging him. Best to put him ignore.
Hey if you fudge packers like 50mm scopes I'm ok with that. They scream redneck trailer park trash but hey I'm guessing you have a Browning sticker too.
Originally Posted by erich
I tried a 50mm scope on one of my rifles for an egg match and for load developement and had to use such high rings that I ended up having to install an adjustable cheek peice to be able to shoot the gun accurately. So where do you used these monsters. I'm not much of a big game hunter any more but have hunted coyotes in five states so far this year and find my 1.5x6x40mm more than adequate and I don't even have any hunting hour restrictions.


I'd guess you were using the wrong stock and possibly rings. They don't fit all applications.


Travis
Originally Posted by Swampman700
Hey if you fudge packers like 50mm scopes I'm ok with that. They scream redneck trailer park trash but hey I'm guessing you have a Browning sticker too.


You know that you are perfectly describing yourself here...........no one..........I mean no one oozes trailer trash redneck more than you!!!
I have a couple..all are on rifles set up for longer ranges..One spot I have for deer is a stand that I can see for 500 yards or so down the old strip mine..I am not sure the 50 mm was necessary, but in the scope I wanted that is what was available..As someone stated, I would NOT lug this rifle around for mt. hunting, but for the purpose, it is great..I also have a couple long range coyote rifles with 50 mm scopes on them..Calling is pretty difficult here as they have three or four contests in the area each fall..So I like to glass and take long shots..or locate a dead cow, or other animal..I also prefer a rifle scope with lots of power..Have a couple 6x Leupolds and an old Lyman..they are all lying in the safe right now but one Leupold is on a Ruger 10-22..
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
It sounds like you either have a poorly shaped stock or a weird face structure. Also, most 50mm objective scopes will go into medium rings which aren't very high at all, it depends upon the base height and barrel contour among other things.

Nothing seems to get the scope nazis worked up here more than guys owning big objective scopes. It's like mentioning an AR-15 to a democrat, they start frothing at the mouth about how nobody needs to own one of THOSE things.

The fact of the matter is that nobody really needs a scope at all, iron sights worked for a bunch of people for many hundreds of years. Scopes are a shooting luxury and as such it's up to the user to determine which aspects of that luxury he values more. Some people want more magnification, others want top quality optics, others prize durability at the expense of weight, and others just want something cheap. We all have our criteria for choosing a scope and thankfully there are a bunch of them available for any desire. If you see someone with a high end european scope with a 50-56mm then you can deduce that low light gathering ability is important to him. Your 1.5-6x40 might please you, but generally I want more magnification than that. To keep the scope bright at last light with a deer in the shadows 200 yds away on a food plot I want good glass, high magnification, and a big objective. If you're coyote calling with shots usually under 50 yds & a colored lens spotlight at night, something else might be more optimum.

Choose what works for you and let others choose what works for them. Big objective scopes were typically designed for low light shooting to maintain brightness as you turn up the power. The guys that seem to hate them the most seem to be the western hunters who aim to be back at camp before the sun sets, they can't seem to understand that not everyone hunts that way. To an eastern whitetail hunter the last five minutes of daylight usually provides more quality hunting than the entire rest of the day, if your equipment can't hack it when the light gets low then you're wasting your time. I don't care that it doesn't handle quite as well as rifle with a 2.5-8x36 leupold, it matters none at all when it's slung over my back for the 1/4 mile mostly flat walk to my stand. I also don't care that it's an inch longer, 3 oz. heavier, or sits .125" higher in the rings, those are easy enough to deal with for the extra performance it gives me in my hunting environment.

If one doesn't work for you then don't buy one, but don't dismiss that no one "needs" one because they don't fill your desires. Your hunting conditions aren't the same as the guys using them.


Well said, I agree with you.
You can use the scope you desire, what others think you need, does not matter in the least.
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Personally,I'm a fan of smaller objectives.I wish there were more quality 36mm objective scopes.


So do I.

As long as there's a fascination with ultrapowered scopes by the wannabe sniper crowd I'm not holding my breath for an increase in numbers of the 2-7x,2-8, or 3-9x36 etc. variables that will be available on the market.
Originally Posted by johnfox
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Personally,I'm a fan of smaller objectives.I wish there were more quality 36mm objective scopes.


So do I.

As long as there's a fascination with ultrapowered scopes by the wannabe sniper crowd I'm not holding my breath for an increase in numbers of the 2-7x,2-8, or 3-9x36 etc. variables that will be available on the market.


Do you know what the most popular sized hunting scopes are? I am thinkng they are the 40-42 mm. scopes, and
for a good reason. Most hunters want a scope that allows a good view of what they are shooting at, when the
light grows dim. That means first light and late light. Deer hunting, often requires light gathering, during
those critical times in the field.

I hope this is not too complicated for some, most here are looking for advice for hunting optics.
If you are a target shooter then go for whatever.

I would not purchase anything smaller, as many others would.
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Originally Posted by Swampman700
Hey if you fudge packers like 50mm scopes I'm ok with that. They scream redneck trailer park trash but hey I'm guessing you have a Browning sticker too.



Stick to your Bushnell Bubble pack scopes they fit you best. Fudgepackers like yourself drive Ford Fiestas correct, you should know you own one? You are still a [bleep] zero who cross dresses and specializes in azz shot deer. Good thing about the internet old pictures and posts never go away.
Originally Posted by Farmboy1
Originally Posted by johnfox
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Personally,I'm a fan of smaller objectives.I wish there were more quality 36mm objective scopes.


So do I.

As long as there's a fascination with ultrapowered scopes by the wannabe sniper crowd I'm not holding my breath for an increase in numbers of the 2-7x,2-8, or 3-9x36 etc. variables that will be available on the market.


Do you know what the most popular sized hunting scopes are? I am thinkng they are the 40-42 mm. scopes, and
for a good reason. Most hunters want a scope that allows a good view of what they are shooting at, when the
light grows dim. That means first light and late light. Deer hunting, often requires light gathering, during
those critical times in the field.

I hope this is not too complicated for some, most here are looking for advice for hunting optics.
If you are a target shooter then go for whatever.


I would not purchase anything smaller, as many others would.



I can see pretty well through a 33mm objective.


Travis
Not to mention a 20mm.


Travis
Originally Posted by deflave
Not to mention a 20mm.


Travis


trick shooter..this is the optics forum, if it dont say S&B there is no way you'll be able to see your whitetail out in the food plot.
Yeah, Americans aren't hunting big game in the dark. It's not that hard to find a small, light scope that will get you to half an hour past sunset.
Wow I didn't realize there were so many Jerry Springer reject 50mm scope users here. I figured this to be a place for serious shooters and hunters. I freely admit I was wrong. You girls kill me.....
its the optics forum swampy..lots of guys in this forum make you look sane.

I have a few 50's and even a 56..they have their place.
Yea in the recycling bin.....
I dont know about that, i hear they go good with golf carts..
Originally Posted by rosco1
Originally Posted by deflave
Not to mention a 20mm.


Travis


trick shooter..this is the optics forum, if it dont say S&B there is no way you'll be able to see your whitetail out in the food plot.


I would like to try one. But until then...


Travis
Travis,

I have a S&B 4-16x50 that I can lend you if you want to shoot one for a while. I just need you to pay the freight, FedEx, insured, both ways.

I trust ya'!

PS. - No ring marks please.
No way dood. I treat objects like women. But thank you for the offer.


Travis
...or treat women like objects!

I like how you have that worked out!
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