Data as of Start weekEnd Week State Sex Age group COVID-19 Deaths
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All Under 1 year 9
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All 1-4 years 7
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All 5-14 years 14
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All 15-24 years 149
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All 25-34 years 795
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All 35-44 years 2,026
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All 45-54 years 5,650
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All 55-64 years 13,808
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All 65-74 years 23,866
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All 75-84 years 30,369
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All 85 years and over 38,048
7/8/2020 2/1/2020 7/4/2020 United States All All Ages 114,741


I copied this over straight from the CDC website. It had to moved into excel.

Please explain to me the need to keep schools closed. Look at the numbers of deaths from 0 to 24 years old, That would be newborns to college kids.

Go to the website and see for yourself. There are more influenza deaths in some age groups than covid.
https://data.cdc.gov/widgets/9bhg-hcku


Clyde


didn't copy over so well. Website has all you need.

One cannot argue with facts a position that was arrived at by emotion.

I wonder how many really died of flu or pneumonia.

Go to the web site and you can hover over the header for each column. It will tell you what that column includes covid or doesn't.


It's a con job.


Clyde

Those numbers mean about as much as used toilet paper to me. I quit listening to Covid statistics a long time ago because it’s obvious - or at least should be - that they play with those numbers much the same way they do with polls to get the desired effect from the masses.

There’s very little we can trust from the government or any related agency anymore. Regardless of who is in the White House. We’re all getting played one way or the other.

I feel very assured that when a government agency reports something, it is in some essential way lying. I count on it. I plan on it. They never let me down.

Don't let liars control your reality.

Cut those numbers by 75% and you might be approaching something that resembles factual data.

Don't forget that the teachers are not kids.

This is what the teachers are reminding the school boards about.

Many of my friends are teachers or school workers (counselors, cafeteria staff, janitors, administration, etc.)

Four of my teacher friends have decided to retire instead of going back to work. Before the pandemic, this state was 3,000 teachers short for about 5-10 years. If school restarts this fall, I think there will be two groups who will either retire early (older teachers) or newer teachers (1-3 years). The nation wide statistics are that 50% of all new teachers quit the profession within their first (3) years. With the past and current shortage of teachers to start with, I am worried that schools will have to shut down due to lack of teaching staff. Our economy needs to start up again, and schools need to reopen so that parents can get back to work. However, if protection plans for the adult staff are not in place by next month (school starts), I believe there will be an extreme shortage of teachers, and hence, schools will open and then reclose, just like businesses are doing right now in California, etc. And sadly, I do not see such a plan in place yet.

Some of the plans are to teach schools by Zoom, but this does not release parents to go back to work.

As I watch the news, and see the COVID-19 curve going back up again as business reopened and everyone is flocking to the beaches, parties, protests, etc., I can't help but wonder what the fall/winter (flu season) will bring as schools open up again next month. I'm worried for our schools and I'm worried for our economy. Sadly, I have no solutions to offer, only deep concern for our country.

Maybe my point was missed. (not you 'flave) I wholeheartedly agree the numbers are BS. Anything they tell us is BS. My point was, how in the hell is there even a debate about schools opening, when there own numbers don't bear it out.

I just wanted to shed some light on the hand wringing. It's definately a sham on the country. I just have a hard time understanding how people believe it.


By the way Travis, we will be in Destin for our annual vacay next week. Due to factors other than rona, we will only be there Thursday-Monday. I'll hoist a Shiner or three in your honor.


Clyde

My wife works for a private school. She is an admin not a teacher. Most everybody is all in to start. I think if concerns are high, start school after labor day.

Again, people have to work, and kids learning on line isn't optimal. These kids need to be out and about. This isn't the black plague from centuries ago. It's a flu virus. Please go look at the link provided. We all know the numbers are skewed to their agenda, but even so it makes zero sense.


Clyde

I'm all for schools opening. I want them to open, I'm not arguing for closing them.

I think the argument people will make against opening them is increasing the spread. Schools will allow it to pass quickly between kids (who it may not bother) then kids bring it hope to parents/grandparents (who it may bother). If the 2 week quarantine (after last symptom) is put in force for anyone who tests positive that's a lot of time out of school....even more if the entire family is put on quarantine...crazy numbers if the entire class is quarantined because of 1 student. If a teacher gets it and they have to stay out 2 weeks it will be tough to get a sub for that long.

I think schools need to open. That said, logistics of how positive tests....or even just sick kids who haven't been tested for anything.....will be handled are something I'm glad I don't have to deal with.

So the teachers are in bubbles who cares as along as they teach and not indoctrinating marxism.

I may get shìt for this, but the ONLY reason they SHOULD think about keeping schools closed is in consideration of the health of the older teachers/faculty (age 55+ based off the stats). But if 'masks work' like 'they' say they do, make them (older faculty) wear them. I by no means agree with keeping schools closed. We are doing a huge disservice to the children and our future if we keep them out of school even longer. Hell, offer the older faculty an early retirement if we need to in order to get these schools open again.

As I type this, I am listening to my lib neighbor prattle on to someone on the phone about how what the country needs to do is to shut down completely in order to get this Covid thing under control. I schit you not.

The guy has one of those Cell phone headsets and he’s always on it with somebody while he goes about doing yard work. There’s a seven foot rock wall that separates his property from mine so he has no idea I’m out here and can hear every word. This is the real problem we face. As much as we rail against the fake news MSM, they are very effective at brain washing a large portion of our society.

The guy isn’t even one of those rabid purple haired freaks you see marching with signs. He’s a really nice, polite, successful adult with a wife, two kids, two dogs and a mortgage payment. He grew up in a blue area and thinks he’s informed on the issues because he watches the “news” - which just happens to be CNN because he’s under the impression that FOX is just right wing propaganda.

This is the fugging problem we have in this country and why blue areas tend to stay blue. Apparently these people don’t have the smarts to look beyond their own comfortable existence to see what the real issues plaguing this country are. As far as he’s concerned it’s all Trump’s fault.

That is in no way a valid reason to keep from opening schools. That small percentage of teachers that feel they are endangering themselves can take whatever steps they feel they need to do to protect themselves on an individual basis. But whatever they choose to do is on them. Keeping kids from getting an education is not an option.

Two words:

TEACHERS


UNIONS

How? Because this is all a narrative. It is a pretext for a series of policies that are the goal. Stop trying to make logical connections. They planned this for years, and not to deal with some imagined threat.

Let me tell you how this goes:
There are conferences and think tanks that gather every so often and work out some agenda, i.e., how to deal with some situation in society. Every group in modern bureaucracy is involved in these, from bankers to doctors to military. Sometimes they come up with a response to a possible situation that aligns with some agenda of someone higher up on some power chain. Basically, they come up with a solution to a problem that provides the benefits that someone who has power wants. Since the solution is the goal, that individual or group with power seeks to cause the problem. It doesn't have to be a real problem. They never are anymore.

The Coronavirus pandemic planned response was covered at an Event 21 (or what some call Event 201, due to the globe in the middle of their logo) last fall. In their "scenario", the virus initially came from South America. In the narrative we were given, it came from China. Then every response we have seen was planned out down to how much we would be hammered by the media to drown out any "noise" (meaning dissent). The whole of the conference was available on YouTube for a while. I watched quite a bit of it. It was pretty vile. The idea was to use people's trust in the institution of modern medicine to implement social controls that couldn't exist otherwise.

Some person or group with more influence than any President wants the solutions to this "problem" to be the new "normal". That's all there is to it. That's the HOW.

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Masks do not protect one from getting the virus. A virus molecule is infinitely smaller than any cloth weave mask and can get through it without problem. The reason masks are worn, is to reduce the projection of a cough into the air of nearby people, thereby hoping to reduce (not prevent) the spread. School staff wearing masks is not to protect themselves, but to help reduce the spread to other people.

Serious question. What would you have them do? What would be you plan?


Clyde

Deliberately manufactured by emotion. Foxy!

This is still very raw data. Give me demographics. Who are these people. "People" covers a lot of territory including some who are very borderline "people". What ar the living conditions, i.e. number in a home/square feet, neighborhood density, hospitalized, extended care resident, race, medical complications. A big one would be infections, hospital admissions and deaths from similar viral infections. Mine the data.

I pray to God the current school system in this country collapses.

Your friends are pussies.

I can't believe you believe that bullschit.

Not sure the “people “ that you speak. I don’t understand what you are asking there. As far as the data, the CDC site i linked has 1300 plus lines of data. It breaks down cases and deaths by male female, state, causes other than covid. In some age brackets more kids died from influenza than covid. The point is people in powerful places are make very questionable decisions about everyone’s future. If you are going to do that, you had better make damn sure the info is correct. I don’t believe most of the BS from the CDC, and their very numbers fall flat when deciding to kill fall sports and or not let kids go back to school. Our kids need to go back to school or risk falling behind. The covid risk is pure propaganda.

Clyde

In the lower grades, the large majority of teachers are women. They come out of college, teach a year or 2, get married and/or have a baby, and quit.

I'm well aware it isn't a valid reason but that's the best they have, and is weak at best. And I agree that schools should be opened asap and the teachers should take every precaution. Around here, they can find a full time teacher in a day. Filling those empty positions will NOT be a problem.


Duh. If you're worried about getting it, don't teach. Again, that position will be filled faster than you can imagine.

+1

We'll never know because they never tested for it.

Kids need school to learn what? So they can get a job where in 30% unemployment? Their phone's been their nanny since they were 3yo. Google does their thinking for them. As long as they can fill out an umemployment form, who needs an education?

Fixed it...

When so-called conservatives fall in with those who hate America, we have no hope.

Kids need to be in school.

I'd say I didn't look closely enough. Just get fed up with reporting that doesn't distinguish between 80 year olds morbidly obese with self inflicted diabetes living inner city lives with 8 people in a 2 BR apt. Or are these otherwise healthy 35 year olds. Are there racially based susceptibilities? Sexual based? If there are then those most susceptible need to know. What are the numbers for illegal insurgents? Many of these are in the meat packing facilities. How about overly gregarious portions of our society; those groups that are going to gather in large groups. Another inner city attribute.

All "people" aren't equal when it comes to becoming infected and infecting others. Guess I'm just fed up with all the equality squalor. Certain groups and/or individuals just need to be avoided and I don't think that's a heading the news media wants to discuss. Rant over.

What I would really like to see is the total number of infections for each cohort. Then you'd have a death rate.

Clearly, Wuhan kills the old and infirm more than the young and fit. So is it worth protecting the old and infirm? And how hard would that really be? If you're over 65, you're retired or at least likely to be, with a pension income et cetera. Everyone younger than 65, well, you're still working or growing or learning or whatever, and living isn't going to kill you although you might still get sick for a while, with a few really sick.

My biggest concern over Wuhan is my Dad. He's 85, getting a little fuzzy but still definitely a grumpy old fighter pilot. Neither he nor I are quite ready for his last trip to Arlington -- he'd prefer to go quietly and quickly and has no intention of lingering.

On a nastier level, however, how many of the nursing home patients were in their last six months of "natural life" anyway, or suffereing from long-term dementia?
Dementia in my view is worse than death anyway. My mom was demented and it was just a losing deal all around. The nursing home killed her, let her choke to death on potato salad just a couple of days after she'd been transferred from the hospital over my objections. Yet it was a mercy in a way. My Mom was already gone, her mind dead, so I wonder how much longer her body might have held on, and how much the nursing home would have raked off for each pointless day.

Heck, I've watched government "health officials" basically admitting outright that they are counting damn near everything as a "COVID 19 death". If you died of something and happened to have COVID 19 (though it was unrelated to your death), then it's a COVID 19 death. If they suspect that the deceased had COVID 19, then it's a COVID 19 death. They're just making crap up.... and people keep buying it. Died in a car crash? You know, he did have a pretty nasty cough.... Must be a COVID 19 death. The numbers are TOTAL BS.

No, I don't want my elderly parents to get the Chinese virus. Neither do I want them to get pneumonia, the flu, a cold, or any number of other things that could be quite dangerous... and probably more likely for them to get. Especially since asymptomatic transmission appears to be extremely unlikely.

You know best part of the numbers shows the increased lethality of the older age groups, those of us who are mainly conservative. It's clearly a designed disease to eliminate those of us who actually planned to live long enough to collect our social security benefits. It shows absolute proof of the democraps in collusion with the communist chinese to take over the country, the piss ant antifa and blm morons are just a diversion. MB

Pretty good info on Ingram tonight again.


Children are not at risk nor those around them.
There's little to no virus in breath of persons testing positive. It's spread ass to face.
Masks are nonsense, zero benefits for healthy individuals in non clinical settings.

Keep the sick people away from the at risk.

OMG, ICU near capacity. Last year at this time they were 95%. That's how the business is set up.


Live life.

My mother is 102 and lives with my sister & family. They've been very careful about where they go the last few months. Even a mild case of it and Mom would likely be gone.

That's why we should shut down everything and bankrupt the economy. If it saves just one 102 year old, isn't it worth it?

Buddy of mines 104 year old grandmother had it. She will be celebrating 105 by the end of the year. If not, it won't be because of the rona.


Clyde

We can afford the loss of a few teachers. It will allow the hiring of new teachers at a cheaper price.

Sub-total 55 - 85+ = 106,091
Total all ages = 114,741

106,091 / 114,741 = 92.5%

92% of deaths were from people within 6 months of death (Nursing homes), and slightly younger with comorbidities. All the virus did was pull that death date forward, and even with all of the fraud from labeling all deaths as CV-19, when it was something else, the numbers still only show just a bad flu season......but the commies had to destroy the country over a "bad flu season", and murder tens of thousands by seeding the virus into nursing homes with infected people, like happened in NYS. That is premeditated murder, and no indictments have occurred.

What rule of law.......show me.

That's one way around tenure......