It is interesting to hear all of this. Especially the union rep at the end that says he feels the union they're 50/50. If that is what he is saying on camera, it is likely much worse for the D cause. I think November is going to be interesting on many fronts.
My work takes me to the Iron range, Cook, Tower, Ely area quite a bit recently. My feeling from talking to residents is that there is more support for Trump than ever before. There seems to be quite a few people who have told me they will not vote for Trump b/c of their strong feelings for unions, but they will not vote for Biden either. This might be the year that area goes to Trump.
Ol’ Steve is a good example of just how stupid your average Minnesotan is.
Steve is a glass half empty kind of guy and I do get tired of his serial posting to that effect. But I think his heart is in the right place. I agree that he should listen to Flave's predictions cuz I'm quite certain that you are spot on with your assessments.
BTW I golfed a 9 hole yesterday, straight up 50 which is good for me. My goal was to come in under 100 on an 18 hole this year but with new clubs that I'm still getting used to IDK if I can do it before the snow falls.
"West Virginia was a democratic stronghold and after Obama's war on coal many people changed. Many did not.
It is very interesting to watch West Virginia now.
At the closing I asked the attorney about the politics of Pendeltton Co West Virginia..."
During the last campaign Hillary said she was going to shut down coal mining. And then, she lost West Virginia 65 percent Trump to 35 percent Hillary. Four years ago, this was the best politician the Dems could put up?
I have spent a lot of time in the Iron Range, driving up from Georgia to Ely to go camping in Quetico Park. It was fascinating to me to see all those iron mines.
That is what Edmund Fitzgerald was carrying, 36,000 tons of iron ore.
Rank & file union Democrats should vote Republican. The Democrat party left them a long time ago beginning with Ross Perot's warning of “the 'giant sucking sound' of NAFTA."
"West Virginia was a democratic stronghold and after Obama's war on coal many people changed. Many did not.
It is very interesting to watch West Virginia now.
At the closing I asked the attorney about the politics of Pendeltton Co West Virginia..."
During the last campaign Hillary said she was going to shut down coal mining. And then, she lost West Virginia 65 percent Trump to 35 percent Hillary. Four years ago, this was the best politician the Dems could put up?
I have spent a lot of time in the Iron Range, driving up from Georgia to Ely to go camping in Quetico Park. It was fascinating to me to see all those iron mines.
That is what Edmund Fitzgerald was carrying, 36,000 tons of iron ore.
"West Virginia was a democratic stronghold and after Obama's war on coal many people changed. Many did not.
It is very interesting to watch West Virginia now.
At the closing I asked the attorney about the politics of Pendeltton Co West Virginia..."
During the last campaign Hillary said she was going to shut down coal mining. And then, she lost West Virginia 65 percent Trump to 35 percent Hillary. Four years ago, this was the best politician the Dems could put up?
I have spent a lot of time in the Iron Range, driving up from Georgia to Ely to go camping in Quetico Park. It was fascinating to me to see all those iron mines.
That is what Edmund Fitzgerald was carrying, 36,000 tons of iron ore.
Thought it was 26,000 tons?
That's what Gordon Lightfoot always said.
"..The lake it is said never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy
Ol’ Steve is a good example of just how stupid your average Minnesotan is.
Steve is a glass half empty kind of guy and I do get tired of his serial posting to that effect. But I think his heart is in the right place. I agree that he should listen to Flave's predictions cuz I'm quite certain that you are spot on with your assessments.
BTW I golfed a 9 hole yesterday, straight up 50 which is good for me. My goal was to come in under 100 on an 18 hole this year but with new clubs that I'm still getting used to IDK if I can do it before the snow falls.
Skankhunt,
I golfed 18 on Saturday and 18 on Sunday and 18 on Monday and 18 last Friday.
The unions and the riots may be enough to switch it to trump. Lot's of hidden trump votes in these kinds of areas. People don't want to speak out because of neighbors and tradition.
That Union stuff up north is worse than a cult. I've got a younger cousin who lives up there,..conservative as the day is long,.likes guns, bowhunting,..horses,..but he's a Union official and he votes Democrat.
What's particularly odd about it is, most of the industry where he lives left the place years ago because the Unions made them unable to compete. But that Union attitude gets planted deep.
That Union stuff up north is worse than a cult. I've got a younger cousin who lives up there,..conservative as the day is long,.likes guns, bowhunting,..horses,..but he's a Union official and he votes Democrat.
What's particularly odd about it is, most of the industry where he lives left the place years ago because the Unions made them unable to compete. But that Union attitude gets planted deep.
Nailed it you did.
When confronted with the fact that their Democrat Party is the party working overtime to restrict and even confiscate their firearms, the universal answer is “pfffft, I’d like to see them try”,
The only way to describe their thoughts and actions when it comes to politics is, “Brainwashed” and “Braindead”.
Fairly simple concept: No company, no need for workers.
Back in the trucking deregulation era (1980s?), had several relatives that drove for a family-owned company in a rural part of PA.
One was the "shop steward" for their Teamsters local. National gave them permission to negotiate their contract, when the owner opened the books and told my relative that he was losing money. Said while he valued the employees, he wasn't prepared to keep losing money and if they didn't grant some "give back", then he was shutting down.
The boys voted to deny the company owner any concessions on wages/benefits, even though they lived in a rural area and good jobs were scarce. They wanted what drivers in big cities were getting. Owner closed the doors in short order..
The unions and the riots may be enough to switch it to trump. Lot's of hidden trump votes in these kinds of areas. People don't want to speak out because of neighbors and tradition.
I predict trump takes it by a small margin.
Nope, Love for it to happen but the stupid runs deep there.
I left there a half century back and I still find it hard to understand. My family that remains there thinks like 24CF.
DFL is a hammer/sickle thing brought out after WWII when the MN Socialist Party [HHH] was broke so they merged with Democrats under Democratic Farmer Labor Party.
Communism was strong on Da Range for years when Gus Hall of Eveleth/Cherry ran for President on the Communist ticket. Angela Davis was his VP pick. John Brennan the CIA chief was a cohort of these two so Obama made him head of CIA.
I recently talked to my buddy's teacher daughter on Da Range recently told me she would vote for Biden if he chose a female VP partner. So I asked if Michelle would qualify and did she think that old silverback was a woman. She's not talking to me anymore.
I worked at a Union laminated beam plant for 40+ years and I know for sure that not one of the members ever voted Democrat! Not many Montanans (real Montanans) vote Democrat no matter what their union affiliation is! I am sure most Minnesotans vote whoever they feel like, Democrat or Republican. The Platinum/Palladium miners ---over one thousand of them ---in my county are avid hunters/gun owners, and I think no one is going to tell them how to vote. I like to think most Americans feel that they can vote however they want election day! That being said I am counting on most Americans to vote Republican.
The difference in 2016 was 44,000 votes. 2016 was just a routine election. 2020 is far from that. Given the riots I believe there will be enough to swing it red based on the Law and Order theme alone. There can still be a lot of die hard union people. It doesn't take all of them.
Still Trump supporters need to do EVERYTHING in their power to make sure they vote!!!!
Ol’ Steve is a good example of just how stupid your average Minnesotan is.
Steve is a glass half empty kind of guy and I do get tired of his serial posting to that effect. But I think his heart is in the right place. I agree that he should listen to Flave's predictions cuz I'm quite certain that you are spot on with your assessments.
BTW I golfed a 9 hole yesterday, straight up 50 which is good for me. My goal was to come in under 100 on an 18 hole this year but with new clubs that I'm still getting used to IDK if I can do it before the snow falls.
Skankhunt,
I golfed 18 on Saturday and 18 on Sunday and 18 on Monday and 18 last Friday.
Every time I affirmed that I still suck.
LOL
Haha you sound like me. I just started last August and for the longest time I didn't even keep score, just had fun. And I was surprised at how much fun it is.