Thinking about a G19 MOS and RDS to stimulate the economy. Never used anything but standard sights.

Yes or no?

I shoot a Glock 34 MOS with a Leupold DeltaPoint Pro in competition. I like it, and it gives you a little more precision than irons. I also shoot some matches with iron sights. For carry, I use iron sights.

I use a dept. issue Trijicon ROR on my duty carry G34. Once you get used to acquiring the dot out the holster, scores on the range go up on all. It's the future and I think you'll love it. Alittle harder to teach an old dog new tricks but once you buy in ( especially with aging eyes ) you'll love 'em. Do it !!!

Razorhog

P.S. Mine stays on 24/7. Battery changed yearly

Do you use the delta or dot version?
Most reviews I've read prefer the dot, but the delta makes more sense to me.

I’ve thought about putting a RMR type red dot on my G20 but since I don’t compete and my handgun training has become instinctual I’m hesitant to do anything that changes that. I’m consistent and accurate with it now so a slight increase in accuracy doesn’t outweigh the potential confusion in the stress of the moment from years of muscle memory.

If I do eventually switch to an RMR style I would have to have a lot of rounds down range and many hours of practice before I’d feel comfortable enough to use it for my EDC. For hunting, target shooting, competition, etc I wouldn’t hesitate to use a red dot. The accuracy I am getting using either factory sights (G19) or hi-vis aftermarket sights (G20) is excellent and I don’t know how much a red dot would improve it, at least at the distances I practice which are 5, 10 and 25 yards.

If you do go with a red dot I’ll be interested in your opinion about it. Good luck!

That's exactly where I'm at. I like the idea, but not sure I should be changing things up. Would be fun to mess around with, but should probably be conserving ammo.

I've got a G-17 MOS but I don't care for the MOS. The mounting plate puts the sight too high. If you want a red dot on a glock get an after market slide milled for the sight you want. Or send your slide off and get it done.

I use the 2.5 MOA dot. It works well for me and is plenty bright, even on sunny days. I'd say the choice is personal preference.

I was looking at some little reflex/red dot sights today. Under $200.

Anybody use the Athlon, Sig Zero, or other cheap red dot?

Many good comments have been offered up. All seem good and valuable in my view.

I tried the red dot on a pistol and really tried to like it but I never could quickly get the red dot up to the proper sight picture. Took too much time. I could not overcome the contraption factor. Might be great if one becomes quick with it.

Then there was the problem of using the red dot in the dark......was more difficult for me to get any target clarity and then even if I did, I could not see the target very well. Did better all in all squinting with just a big old orange glow dot.

The night presents some issues. Difficult to see the sights and bring to bear on a target out there in the dark. If real dark, I can’t see the target without a flashlight. Even then, if then with the light in front of the pistol, the iron sights don’t stand out very much. So, my night pistol has a laser and a light on it. Flashlight can be used if needed and the laser dot enables quicker targeting. I find it to be especially handy at longer than normal pistol ranges.

For general carry, I just use iron sights and a big dot of some kind.

Red dot for hunting is a no brainer. It’s amazing how accurate the red dot is and fast accusation on target. I don’t recommend for EDC because you are trusting your life on a battery that “should” be working when needed.
I had a Sig Romeo on my EDC and I shot great with it until the battery quit working only after about 300 hrs. It did not last the 10k that it was supposed to. I use a Vortex Venom on my G40. I’m confident out to 50 yards while hunting. I can’t see that far with iron sights.

Hunting yes!
EDC no.

I have a g20 with a vortex venom. It’s not a RMR but use a sight adapter.
I like it so far. I waited to mill the slide just to see if I liked it and because I’m cheap.

Fun gun for sure.....

My g20 is minute of Copenhagen can at 25 yards. Rested I must admit.

I just got my son a G40 MOS for Christmas. He wanted a handgun to use during alternative season and didnt care for my 629. Topped off with a Holosun 507c x2, its amazingly fast and accurate out to 75yds. It's our first 10mm, luckily Sportsmans Guide had Fed 180gr 10mm for .47/rnd

Yes.

I have one on a 41 mag Blackhawk, it is a game changer for hunting. 100 yards is easy with it, my eyes aren't good enough for open sights with a pistol anymore.

As some of us get older, we are changing to RD as the ability to focus changes and slows. I don't compete, so I don't shoot nearly as much as you. Could you fill me in on why you prefer irons for carry over a reliable high end RD like your Leupold?

I have a Trijicon RMR on a MP CORE 5 in 9mm. The irons co witness with the 3.25 moa dot. I got it just to check out the RD on a pistol thing, its fun at the range but I have a ways to go before using one for carry. The one big thing is I can see the dot and target without any correction. Not so with irons anymore.

I’m waiting on a holosun hs507c x2. I’ve been gunning irons for decades so this will be a new experience

You'll like it once the paranoia of Auto Off passes.

Trijicon RMR fan here. My G19 with an RMR06:

I went with this J T Defense Mount
and a Venom on mt Gen 2 G19. I'm liking it a lot, so far, but only have 100 rounds or so in with it. It's fun to see both the sight and target again.

Just sighted in a Vortex crossfire on my Blackhawk in 41 mag.

Worked good out to 100 yards.

Great hunting setup. You’re correct! 75yds is easily doable.

Sig 365XL with a Romeo Zero. Once you figure out the “presentation “ you find the dot rather quickly. What I like the most is that I can adjust the dot for whatever load I want to shoot. Fixed windage driftable sights were always seeming to be shooting low and left for me. (My buddy says”like your politics”)

Nice compact EDC setup. Oh, and mines a hybrid, my son and I traded grip frames so I have a 365 grip with the XL slide.

I assume that’s a campfire approved 10 shot 100 yard group? 😁

Nice shooting and nice looking setup.

Definite yes from me but I'd pass on the red-dot and go for the new HS507C-GR x2. I have several red-dots and this new Holosun green circle-dot is my favorite by far!
This pic is from my cell phone and isn't very clear. The actual sight picture is crisp and much easier for me to pick up compared to my Trijicon SRO....

HS507C-GR x2


Trijicon SRO

The red dots are a game changer for anyone who has the age related eyesight issues. I use a Trijicon RMR and am very happy with it.

I found the easiest way to learn it is to have backup irons. When presenting the pistol, find the sights and the dot is there. No need to try to focus on the front sight (which I can't do without reading glasses at my age).

It was a game changer for me. At 56...I can out shoot my 20-something self with a 1911 wearing a Trijicon RMR.

I put one on my .500 NE double first. After a couple of African hunts with it...I put one on a 1911. Never going back.

That's a group my daughter shot with my G19 during a family range day on my dad's place a short time back. She's a Sig fan, and had never fired a Glock or a pistol equipped with a RDS. I thing she got the hang of it pretty quick.

Yes. Do it

I had problems with the DeltaPoint Pro early on where it would suddenly stop working. One of the contacts was moving under recoil. I had to send it in to Leupold a couple of times. It's fixed and has been working well now for several thousand rounds. Still, I'm not sure I would trust it for carry. I think if I were to carry with a red dot I might use a Trijicon RMR as they have a reputation for greater reliability. They have a smaller "window" however, and are not as good for competition. I still shoot iron sights pretty well and mostly carry a Glock 26 or 19 which are much more compact than a Glock 34.

Many serious competitors who shoot slide mounted red dots have two guns set up that way, then they can send in one if it breaks and still have a working gun for competition. Most of these folks are shooting more than ten thousand rounds a year with their red dots.

Did you get a pistol with a RMR slide cut or have one cut?
I'm thinking about a Ed Brown RMR cut slide and build/fit a complete upper for one of my other 1911's.

Thanks bowmanh. That makes sense.

I will keep that in mind. I like the size of the window too when I pick it up at the counter. I have a RD on a primary carry now, but was considering the Leupold if the prices come down. I don't think I will get in any serious competition at my age, but wanted a tactical edge. It's good to hear your experience with this since you have both.

Just ordered a Swampfox Kingslayer with the green circle, dot reticle on sale at DVOR for my Ruger Mk IV Tactical. They just announced a Streamlight sale to so I'm about to pick up a light for it. My holster will accommodate the sight, but not the light which I'll probably end up having to take off and attach as needed.

I should be able to smoke furry things at night out to about 50yrds and in traps.

Did my part to stimulate the economy and bought this Gen 5 Glock 19 MOS and Holosun HS507C V2 locally. Both are new, never fired. That "dot" is going to take some getting used to after a lifetime of regular sights.

I'm one of those with aging eyes that struggle with open sights. My first red dot purchases were RMR's on hunting revolvers and I've been adding red dots to carry guns. Most recent have been Holosuns on a P320 and P365XL. I shoot much better with red dots but need more practice before I start carrying with them. I don't think I'd purchase a new handgun today that wasn't red dot capable...

I have a SIG Romeo on my Ruger super redhawk in .454 Casull. Works wonders for old eyes that can't see the irons worth a crap anymore.