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Posted By: dh1 Are ‘Ghost Guns’ a thing - 04/11/22
Or is it just a catchy phrase to scare the ignorant? I don’t see it in my top 1000 things the Pres should be addressing.
There's website where you can get the print plans to print everything from a glock frame, AR lower to a grenade launcher.
I'm sure there is something to it. Set up the reamers and go to town. There is currently no requirement in most States to NOT have a serial number or any identification on the finished receiver. It's my understanding the big issue in some areas is someone has set up a factory. They are putting out lowers with every intention of selling them to whoever shows up with cash. As usual, some a$$hole screws it up for everyone else. But, if Americans would get the services they pay for from the federal government, no one would want a "ghost gun". The maleficence of our government is the problem. They are defiantly not the solution.
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Posted By: ribka Re: Are ‘Ghost Guns’ a thing - 04/11/22
No they are not.

There are used in a very very small percentage of crimes. It's just another term or narrative to scare gullible Americans.

Never bad idea to have a few AR and Glock frames without numbers. Cheap insurance
the fact is, any competent machinist can pretty much make a functioning firearm from scratch. Plans and drawings are nice, but just having an example to copy works. The ability to stamp out the ability of Citizens to make guns sailed long ago.
This is just more smoke and mirrors, more govrnment optics and narrative.
Need to get an upper for mine. AR10 lower.
Posted By: efw Re: Are ‘Ghost Guns’ a thing - 04/11/22
I have a friend who bought partially finished Gen 3 Glock frames that he finished himself, then purchased aftermarket parts. No serial number and it’s perfectly legal.

I don’t understand what the big deal is myself… except that Big Brother doesn’t know he has THAT gun. Isn’t like they don’t know he has a bunch more…

I’d be interested to hear the stats on the number of crimes committed with these “ghost guns”. I’m sure it’s as overwhelmingly high a percentage as those committed with ARs… that is, so utterly minuscule as to be laughable.

I’d say it’s a catchphrase to scare the ignorant…
It's a toehold for them to go after if they can pass legislation.
Then it gives them a basis to go after state resident to resident private sales. IE " gunshow loop hole..
And then all other things they have clearly said over the past 5 decades they want to do about the " gun problem" to create their disarmed utopian compliant society..
All started with the GCA of 68.
Then we seen Billy Boys AWB for a decade.

Anything Liberal Socialist Democrats propose or do concerning firearms is with the ultimate goal of no private citizen firearm ownship.
Anything they say otherwise is pure bullschitt and we all know that.

If they pull off a 3 peat of election fraud in the midterms and gain supermajorities unprecedented in history.
And all that goes along with that and 36 states ready to ratify anything they want to do to the constitution.
And Joey gets another SCOTUS pick to check the block on anything and not just firearm related but everything else they intend to change.


We will be done as a Republic......
IMO....
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Posted By: Dess Re: Are ‘Ghost Guns’ a thing - 04/11/22
I guess all the knife attacks are committed with ghost knives too. Anything sharp is suspect.

I propose they pass legislation requiring lawn mower blades in excess of "4 required to have serial numbers and duly registered too.
NO they are not a real thing.

Gun laws in the United States allow for an individual to build a firearm for their own personal use and it does not require a serial number.

If you do this for the purposes of selling the firearms you are violating federal law and can be prosecuted. I should add the punishments can be quite severe.

So if you hear some dumb fugk railing on about a "ghost gun" tell them to pursue prosecution of those violating federal law instead of taking another right away from law abiding citizens. Or, beat them to death with a baseball bat and leave a note that says "No ghost gun used." LOL
It sure sounds scary, no? I'm sure the term was focus group tested before the media ushered it out for our consumption.
Chuck-U had been awfully quiet of late......
#whatadouche
Originally Posted by deflave
NO they are not a real thing.

Gun laws in the United States allow for an individual to build a firearm for their own personal use and it does not require a serial number.

If you do this for the purposes of selling the firearms you are violating federal law and can be prosecuted. I should add the punishments can be quite severe.

So if you hear some dumb fugk railing on about a "ghost gun" tell them to pursue prosecution of those violating federal law instead of taking another right away from law abiding citizens. Or, beat them to death with a baseball bat and leave a note that says "No ghost gun used." LOL




This, 100%. "Ghost guns" are gun grabber horseshit.
Originally Posted by dh1
Or is it just a catchy phrase to scare the ignorant?


The recent increase in the number of mainstream news articles about ghost guns is part of the (((plan))) to get people to look favorably on Biden when his administration releases a rule classifying 80% lowers are firearms. I saw a clip of (((Schumer))) lying about how frequently they are used in crimes, an act which comes as naturally to him and his tribe as breathing.
Yes.

When you read about Schumer’s “ghost gun” statistics he’s referring to firearms with etched out serial numbers.

Has nothing to do with a gun enthusiast building his own firearm for personal use.
I caught a blurb on the radio today on my way into work this morning about this. I suspect the major point they are trying to change is a definition of a firearm. To require a serial number and background check on every part and piece of a gun. Your barrel, upper, trigger, magazine, etc would require a background check.
Originally Posted by renegade50
It's a toehold for them to go after if they can pass legislation.
Then it gives them a basis to go after state resident to resident private sales. IE " gunshow loop hole..
And then all other things they have clearly said over the past 5 decades they want to do about the " gun problem" to create their disarmed utopian compliant society..
All started with the GCA of 68.
Then we seen Billy Boys AWB for a decade.

Anything Liberal Socialist Democrats propose or do concerning firearms is with the ultimate goal of no private citizen firearm ownship.
Anything they say otherwise is pure bullschitt and we all know that.

If they pull off a 3 peat of election fraud in the midterms and gain supermajorities unprecedented in history.
And all that goes along with that and 36 states ready to ratify anything they want to do to the constitution.
And Joey gets another SCOTUS pick to check the block on anything and not just firearm related but everything else they intend to change.


We will be done as a Republic......
IMO....
Agreed to all that.........
The baseball bat idea sounds most promising.
Ya’ll be careful out there. Near as I can tell you’re weenie might qualify as a firearm. Dunno what the tat monkeys do these days but I reckon most are “home made” and don’t have serial numbers.
Originally Posted by dh1
Or is it just a catchy phrase to scare the ignorant? I don’t see it in my top 1000 things the Pres should be addressing.

They were actually called non=guns if I recall. The term ghost gun is meant to strike fear into the hearts of the clueless. Fear is the big motivator.
Originally Posted by deflave
NO they are not a real thing.

Gun laws in the United States allow for an individual to build a firearm for their own personal use and it does not require a serial number.

If you do this for the purposes of selling the firearms you are violating federal law and can be prosecuted. I should add the punishments can be quite severe.

So if you hear some dumb fugk railing on about a "ghost gun" tell them to pursue prosecution of those violating federal law instead of taking another right away from law abiding citizens. Or, beat them to death with a baseball bat and leave a note that says "No ghost gun used." LOL




What Lord Flavior said, plus one point...the issue (((they))) claim they are trying to address is the scenario of someone building and selling the arms to someone else, and I assume that this is one of the things that Imam Flave (PBUH) was including when he mentioned federal laws...if you're going to be a distributor, you have to comply with FFL laws, just like people who sell at gun shows would have to if they were selling in contravention of existing FFL laws.

Anyone who violates one gun law sure as sheit ain't gonna be dissuaded by a new law to violate.
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doesn't look like a ghost gun at all to me.
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by dh1
Or is it just a catchy phrase to scare the ignorant? I don’t see it in my top 1000 things the Pres should be addressing.

They were actually called non=guns if I recall. The term ghost gun is meant to strike fear into the hearts of the clueless. Fear is the big motivator.

............ Just like Saturday Night Specials, Assault weapons, and now Ghost Guns...... The list goes on and on. Who you gonna call ?... GHOST BUSTERS !!!.
notice biden says banning ghost guns ,but also ban gun parts to make them. I think it a first step to banning buying ALL gun parts for every gun off of the internet .I do believe he mentiened doing this very thing when he was campaining to be prez
yeah, just like those GLOCKs that are invisible from metal detectors... fear mongering at it's simplest by those who can.
Sounds a lot like something to concentrate on beside the big issues that need attention from our Government.
Posted By: ribka Re: Are ‘Ghost Guns’ a thing - 04/11/22
Originally Posted by deflave
NO they are not a real thing.

Gun laws in the United States allow for an individual to build a firearm for their own personal use and it does not require a serial number.

If you do this for the purposes of selling the firearms you are violating federal law and can be prosecuted. I should add the punishments can be quite severe.

So if you hear some dumb fugk railing on about a "ghost gun" tell them to pursue prosecution of those violating federal law instead of taking another right away from law abiding citizens. Or, beat them to death with a baseball bat and leave a note that says "No ghost gun used." LOL





unserialized firearms. I believe or unmarked firearms . Lackng a seriel number makes a firearm more deadly according to Schumer or Beto. Before 1968 there were thousands of 22 's and shotguns commercially manufactured without serial numbers
I am anxious to see how far this new ruling (not a law) will attempt to further infringe on our rights beyond the so called ghost guns. Upper could have to be serialized along with other parts. It may end up being a bigger problem than we realize,


GOA will analyze the differences between this final rule and the previously published proposed rule, but here is what we know already. The rule will:

Allow ATF to end the online sale of gun parts at will (as Biden promised on the campaign trail).
Mandate the serialization of many gun parts, forcing Americans to undergo a background check for a new legal “firearm” in order to repair or buy replacement parts for their guns.
Require that 100% of Firearm Transaction Records from gun stores dating back to 2002 end up in ATF’s billion record gun registry.
Yes, they are a thing, Numnuts Joe Biden says so!
How many congress critters on the right will think this is a good idea?
Posted By: efw Re: Are ‘Ghost Guns’ a thing - 04/11/22
Originally Posted by TBREW401
How many congress critters on the right will think this is a good idea?


All of them cept Rand
Posted By: Papag Re: Are ‘Ghost Guns’ a thing - 04/11/22
I guess my Pre-68 Savage 24s are now ghost guns?
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This 1972 jr high shop project gun is still shooting.

It was built with all non gun parts. The springs are from chevy drum brakes.
Posted By: ERK Re: Are ‘Ghost Guns’ a thing - 04/11/22
The boys doing all the killings want 15 shot minimum. Couple hundred bucks buys that with no work involved.
Please post a gov fact on how many Ghost guns have been used and confiscated from a crime. Edk
We could just make it illegal to shot people.
Posted By: Dess Re: Are ‘Ghost Guns’ a thing - 04/11/22
Originally Posted by gregintenn
We could just make it illegal to shot people.


Pay attention to the leftist narrative. Blame the firearm first. Blame the manufacturer second. Blame the shooter only if they're white.
Just a false flag used to further chit on your constitutional rights. It will do nothing to stop crime, it's only goal is to make you the governments b!tch.
Ghost Guns? Not an issue

Spook Guns? Yes, an issue in roughly 50% of murders in the USA.
Another distraction from the real problem.....the courts/judges sending repeat violent felons right back into society.
Another way I see the manufacture and sale of firearms parts in particular being restricted is by online payment systems like paypal. I am currently getting a new website made for my business and I sell two items that are firearms related. According to the policy of paypal I can't use their service and do that. I divorced paypal 2 years ago so it doesn't matter but it's telling the direction things are heading.
Originally Posted by deadlift_dude
Spook Guns? Yes, an issue in roughly 50% of murders in the USA.


Spook Guns is an instant classic.

Certainly qualifies as a public health crisis but the government (((nose))) the real issue is guns.

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How is this constitutional? Shall not be infringed!
If you want a magazine, timney trigger, extractor, peep sight........get it now

Probably cold blue from walmart can't have that ghost rusting
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It's been a while since she's seen a cock.
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Originally Posted by Stickfight
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It's been a while since she's seen a cock.


Got them crazy burn-your-house-down eyes
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Originally Posted by SocialFinger
Originally Posted by Stickfight
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It's been a while since she's seen a cock.


Got them crazy burn-your-house-down eyes


She thinks she's one of her cats.
It’s the new “assault weapon “.


Wait for it: they’ll tell us ghost guns fire cop killer boolits.
Posted By: dh1 Re: Are ‘Ghost Guns’ a thing - 04/12/22
Focus group tested, snowflake approved, soon to be on full blast from the left.
The guns that kill people are strawman purchased by welfare moms with felonious boyfriends.... these are never prosecuted according to Veteran gun rights activist Joe Waldron.
Originally Posted by Clarkm
The guns that are used to . kill people are strawman purchased by welfare moms with felonious boyfriends.... these are never prosecuted according to Veteran gun rights activist Joe Waldron.

Fixt.
Originally Posted by ironbender
It’s the new “assault weapon “.


Wait for it: they’ll tell us ghost guns fire armor piercing cop killer boolits.

Fixt
Originally Posted by efw
I have a friend who bought partially finished Gen 3 Glock frames that he finished himself, then purchased aftermarket parts. No serial number and it’s perfectly legal.

I don’t understand what the big deal is myself… except that Big Brother doesn’t know he has THAT gun. Isn’t like they don’t know he has a bunch more…

I’d be interested to hear the stats on the number of crimes committed with these “ghost guns”. I’m sure it’s as overwhelmingly high a percentage as those committed with ARs… that is, so utterly minuscule as to be laughable.

I’d say it’s a catchphrase to scare the ignorant…

According to MrGunsNGear, what they're doing is padding that crime statistic (the number of "ghost guns" being used in crime) by incorrectly including firearms that have had their serial numbers removed. Of course those have nothing to do with what we think of as "ghost guns" (a BS term to start with), but it serves their political purpose (inflating the numbers) to demonize homemade firearms.
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by ironbender
It’s the new “assault weapon “.


Wait for it: they’ll tell us ghost guns fire armor piercing cop killer boolits.

Fixt

🤣🤣
Originally Posted by deflave
Yes.

When you read about Schumer’s “ghost gun” statistics he’s referring to firearms with etched out serial numbers.

Has nothing to do with a gun enthusiast building his own firearm for personal use.

This.
these snowflakes dream up crap no such gun ,makes these snowflakes feel good . while the court system just let criminals off that should be hung for their crimes ,what we really have is ghost laws that were once enforced with capitol punishment . just look and see what these snowflakes nominated to the Supreme court a person who is light on crime if your black .WTF
They are real, and have proven to be very powerful.










































































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Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by deadlift_dude
Spook Guns? Yes, an issue in roughly 50% of murders in the USA.


Spook Guns is an instant classic.

Certainly qualifies as a public health crisis but the government (((nose))) the real issue is guns.

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Dr. Evil …I Presume…
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If ever there was a chick that needed Crazy branded on her forehead.....
Originally Posted by 45_100
How is this constitutional? Shall not be infringed!

It's not. The Second and Tenth Amendments bar the Federal Government from interfering in any way, or to any degree, with our right to keep and bear arms.
It's just the latest tyrannical pry bar. Dr. Ranney looks like she should be celebrating a mental health bill.
Wood stoves and firearms what's next home made grills?
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Ghost guns, Assault rifles- all part of the smoke and mirrors that the democrats and this ridiculous administration use to try to distract the population from their corruption and make people feel like they are doing something. Nothing new here, just politics as usual...
"Ghost gun" is a made up gun-grabber term.
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