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Posted By: Lever77 Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
Just going to see if anyone available has thoughts on a Winchester 70XTR 7mm Mauser DOB1982 in NM condition. Found one here local and just trying to gather more info and value from anyone that may be familiar. I do not have a Win 70 in the collection but always had an eye out for a good deal if it came along. Thanks for any input
Posted By: justin10mm Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
Still better than anything Remington ever made.
Posted By: rainshot Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
I had one many years ago. My son took it away from me and still hunts with it. To add to the insult I have to load for it. I would recommend it.
Posted By: Redneck Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
Originally Posted by Lever77
Just going to see if anyone available has thoughts on a Winchester 70XTR 7mm Mauser DOB1982 in NM condition. Found one here local and just trying to gather more info and value from anyone that may be familiar. I do not have a Win 70 in the collection but always had an eye out for a good deal if it came along. Thanks for any input
They're OUTstanding... I have one just like it - and I'd hate to have to sell it now...

Be careful - once you get a M70, you'll be wondering wth you ever got into Rems... laugh laugh
Posted By: renegade50 Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
Pretty desirable rifle.
Along with the 6.5x55 ones.
Posted By: 160user Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
What are they asking for it?
Posted By: tzone Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
I'd buy if the price is reasonable. They're great guns. I have 3 or 4 on hand right now.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
Solid guns. If you fancy it and the price is acceptable to you, there’s your answer…..
Posted By: Lever77 Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
$900
Originally Posted by rainshot
I had one many years ago. My son took it away from me and still hunts with it. To add to the insult I have to load for it. I would recommend it.
Lol had to laugh , my nephews son has mine in 257 Roberts
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
for $900, that would already be mine!
Posted By: earlybrd Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
I stumbled across a xtr featherweight 270 3 years ago for $400 fastest money I ever spent
Posted By: Seafire Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
I got one a long time ago.. ( 23 plus years ago) for $300.00 and super low mileage on it..plus it had had a recoil pad put on it and came with Leupold rings and mounts...

Old guy bought it new from a store in Roseburg Oregon.. and after many years of not being able to find ammo on the shelves for it..
He took it back to the store and put it on consignment..

I saw it up on the wall up high and asked about it... guy behind the counter was perturbed, and told me before he took it down and had to put it back up there, that it was chambered in a 7 mm Mauser.. and its hard to find ammo for it... so if you have no idea what that caliber is, I ain't pulling it down, for you to gauk at it. and then expect me to climb back up there...

Told the guy it wasn't an issue, as I handload my ammo....looked it over real quick.. it was spotlessly clean...
How much? $300 ...

What?? $300.00, if that is too much, then get the hell out of here...

Nope, I'll take it... I was surprised I heard you right...Look its been here 3 months now..., so there ain't no refunds on it...

Told him to get out the 4473, and I counted out $310....in cash...the $10 extra was for the background check..

out the door 5 minutes later.... and she hasn't left my possession since... the day I pass away, we'll end our relationship...

and got it home took it to the range... and have come to the conclusion, it shoots so well, it thinks its a varmint rifle... Has been that way ever since, regardless of what I feed it...
Posted By: wrongtime Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
Excellent rifle. I would not part with mine.
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
for $900, that would already be mine!
For $900 around here it would still be on the rack in 10 years. $700 tops in these parts.

Very nice rifles and nothing wrong with them though.
It would be a push feed, rather than CRF, if that matters to you.

It would not matter to me. Two Win 670 push feeds in 30-06, have been as accurate as my dedicated varmint rifles.

As to the XTR, I recently purchased from Gunbroker one much like the subject here. But in 7 RM. It was purchased as a gift to my son.

Upon reciept, the bore scope showed severe and unacceptable pitting of the barrel. So the barreled action is at Shaw for a new barrel and blue job.

With a couple 1/4 inch end wrenches and a flat screw driver, over travel was eliminated and the trigger pull left at 2.5 pounds.

The stock is made from very nice walnut. I was tempted to switch the XTR stock for the less figured wood on my model 70 Classic. But I prefer the Classic straight line profile.
Posted By: gkt5450 Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
I have one and it’s a stone cold killer. Some fancier in camp but this one has blood on it. Hogs hate it!!
Posted By: sactoller Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
I sold one to Springcove, for his son....I will let him tell the story. Needless to say, I don't think his son will ever get rid of it.
Posted By: carrollco Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
Patriach of the hunting club had one and it was his dream rifle. Henry was a superb outdoorsman and made turkey calls. I valued his opinion on any topic. He killed something with it annually. Knew the land and its inhabitants. You can learn lots from the old timers. They’ll shorten your learning curve.
Posted By: 7mm_Loco Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
Great Rifle... Great Cartridge (if you handload)... Fair Price... What are you waiting for?... Get on it!
Posted By: las Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 01/31/23
I snapped up an early 1985 (transition year?) one several years back for $700 under a 2.5-8 Leupold VXIII. Like I needed another rifle.... Maybe 50 rounds through it, judging from the empty fired brass that came with it and the owner's recollection, along with several boxes of live rounds, a couple boxes of bullets, dies, a military ammo case, and a fancy sling, which I immediately took off in favor of a Safari sling.

I spent another $100 on a Tubbs firing spring kit, and fitted that, as the safety had not been fitted at the factory. Might be why I got it cheap. Never having done that before, I could have worked the factory one, but wanted a spare in case I flubbed it, and it was educational. The Tubb kit did nothing much to improve the accuracy, tho. The exterior stock finish was not, IMO, high quality, the wood is just OK. It had a few very minor dents and a light surface scatch or two, but was almost NIB condition.

Until I took it caribou hunting anyway.... 2 kills. The stock is a little more "hunted with" now. smile. If anyone wants an almost new factory spring and striker, pm me. Sling too.

The interior stock work was initially very rough and whiskery, several pressure spots along the barrel channel and accuracy wasn't all that good ( 2MOA +) with or without the fore-end bump and the pressure points, so I full-length bedded it, with only minor improvement in accuracy. The barrel channel was well hollowed out, so it took a lot of epoxy to fill it, probably adding an ounce or two or three of weight - but where it will do the most good, at least. Accuracy (factory ammo) crept below 2MOA, barely - was good enough for one kill at 20 feet, and another at 100 or so yards, both standing offhand shots. In the fog.

It is a very well handling rifle, excellent balance and comes right into the shoulder/eye configuration. I like it. The quality of the workmanship on mine may have been due to it being (I was told) a transition year to something different in the works, mine being thrown together out of "left-over parts". Your's being several years back may have better workmanship than I found. (It looked good from the outside! )

I bought it for a tool, not a closet queen, so I'm good. I love the way it handles. Smoothing the wrinkles out just makes it more gooder/fun.

I put a few rounds (175 Fed factory) through it a few days ago after bore-coating it. After scope change /adjustments at 25 and 100, I fired the last 3 for group at 100. Two were almost touching, one was about an inch away - but I think I pulled that one a bit. That doesn't tell me much, but is encouraging. More shooting needed - and reloading.... I'd rather shoot 140's, but we'll see. IIRC, one box of bullets that came with it are Partitions. smile. The rifle has fewer than 120 rounds through it, all factory loads, so it's just getting "warmed up".

That factory butt pad is going to get replaced with a Decelerator tho - it's as hard as a Ruger. Someone wants that as "factory original, it can go too. Those 175 RN had some bite on them, for a 7X57. It was 5th out of 7 fifles fired that day, doing the same thing, and right after the .338, so ..... smile

I have 3 Remingtons, a Ruger, and a M98 in various calibers that are all more accurate at this point (and one Ruger that isn't) than the M70 to date - working on both. I've never had a problem with a push feed, so don't believe everything you read on the Innanet.... smile

That's all I got.

Price suits you, buy it!
Posted By: tzone Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 02/01/23
If you shop other places than gun broker, you can probably get a better price than that. It’s not horrible but it seems a lot of the people on here that are fired up about that price, only look at gun broker.
Posted By: Stix Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 02/01/23
Had one in 7mag that someone stuck a KDF break on. Shot like a big .223. Nice rifles. Underrated they are...
Posted By: PJGunner Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 02/01/23
I think the price is a mite high but. if it's something I really wanted, I'd try to get it down but would buy anyway if I could not get it down. That's up to you. I gave $400 for mine quite a while back but it was one I rally wanted and I knew the seller. He'd given me some smoking good deals in the past so I didn't mind.

I took mine to my gunsmith and had it glass bedded, trigger job done and the high spots removed from the barrel channel. The only problem after that was the barrel copper fouled badly. Eight plus hours of copper removal time is time better spent so I did a fire lapping job and the rifle shoots just fine now with only minor fouling. I had him put a Decelerator pad on the rifle so my late wife could use the rifle.

The rifle is a strong one and I've been working with 7-08 data in Winchester brass, WLR primer and W760 and RL17 for the propellent.

I have the 140 gr. Ballistic Tips running at 2800 FPS with W760. I can get them to 2880 FPS but bolt lift was a tad sticky.

The 150 gr. Nosler Partition will do 2847 FPS using RL17. Again slightly sticky bolt lift.

Thee loads were worked up during a hot summer day somewhere around 105 to 110 degrees. Any max load at that temp level will certainly be safe come hunting season.

FWIW, I also have the M70 XTR Featherweight in .257 Roberts. I haven't done anything with that one yet. Just haven't had the time.
PJ
Have one in 7x57 and 6.5x55. Great rifles. You will not be disappointed. 900.00 ? It would have came home with me or I wouldn't have been able to sleep.
Paid $500 for mine about 15 yrs ago, killed a lot of deer with it. It was picky as heck but does well with 140s' and H4831SC.
Posted By: Bocajnala Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 02/01/23
The 7x57 is perfect for that rifle.
Some rifles just seem to match well with certain chambers... And those two go together imo


-Jake
Posted By: Sako76 Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 02/01/23
I paid $1K for a NIB BACO 7x57 with a new Zeiss Conquest 3x9, it shoots bugholes with Hornady 139 SST's.
Posted By: Angus1895 Re: Win 70XTR 7x57 thoughts - 02/01/23
Did the xtr action change ?

Or was most upgrades in the xtr in the wood/blueing?
Same push feed bolt and floor plate as the 70 for all I can tell. My XTR has a nicer stock than my later Classic.

The XTR may also have a different checkering pattern than the base 70. But I am not sure about that.

Post 64, they sold the 670, the 70, the 70 XTR, the supergrade, and, I think the ranger.
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