I started blogging after I retired as a way to keep my mind sharp. ---Disclaimer: My wife says it is not working. End-disclaimer---
One of the things my readers seem to enjoy is fiction. Especially "Doomer-Porn". So, I write "serial fiction" similar to what used to show up in magazines.
So my currently story line needs a mail-order bride. Please share your opinions!!!
If the [bleep]-hit-the-fan and social order disintegrated and your son showed up at your house with a mail-order bride, where would you want her to have come from?
-South Africa: Speaks English. Has seen the ugly that happens when stuff falls apart. If from farm community is work-oriented. -Southwest Mindanao, Philippines (Basilan Island): Christian pushed out by Muslim majority. LOTS of mail-order brides come from Philippines. Points against: Christians tend to be the rich land-owners and live in cities. Not necessarily the best people if thing go in the septic-tank. -Belize, Costa Rica or Panama:They speak English in Belize. Many people coming from Latin America. -Romania, Bulgaria, Uke or Rus: Very low GDP. Girls from rural areas used to physical labor. -Other?
So, if you had to pick a country-of-origin for a mail-order-bride to be an asset to the family during civil disorder and a rapid retrograde to 1920 technology....which country would it be?
Western Alaskan...life is easier now, but most still know how to get the important stuff done. But it's been nearly 50 years since I was there, so who knows.
I knew a guy who married a gal from the Philippines that way. She was a lot younger, not much older than his 2 adult kids. A few years later he was dying from cancer. His wife didn't like the terms of his will. She had some mob connections who kidnapped him and tried to extort money from his kids. They were caught and he was returned shortly before he died. I assume his wife is in jail.
So, if you had to pick a country-of-origin for a mail-order-bride to be an asset to the family during civil disorder and a rapid retrograde to 1920 technology....which country would it be?
Thanks a million.
-Joe
If you're writing a story about a man's son showing up with something that could be an asset to the family after the collapse, you need to be asking about mules,....not wives.
I love my Latin woman, the ones that haven’t crossed the border and been brainwashed. Family oriented, hardworking and sexy as hell. I wonder how the process of a mail order bride works compared to marrying them in their country as far as visas are concerned
Vietnamnamese. She can pull bugs off the tater plants, cook you up a bowl of golden retriever stew, and field strip an AK all while giving birth to a little future VC sapper.
Vietnamnamese. She can pull bugs off the tater plants, cook you up a bowl of golden retriever stew, and field strip an AK all while giving birth to a little future VC sapper.
Impressive.
I had a Eskimo chick that could piss off the side of my skiff while underway, I found that to be a cunning quality.
IMO it's about 6 of one, half a dozen of the other, etc.
I've known some men that weren't very happy because they stayed all puffed up and looking for a conflict about their furrener wife. Known some others that wallered in high cotton. A long time girlfriend I had, had a filipina sister in law that was what they used to call a nympho. She'd been caught several times, and used to tease/tempt me all the time. She looked just like that woman that played on the Relic Hunter tv show, except without the boobs. Could have been sisters. She had the biggest collection of toys that I'd seen at the time. Worked with a man that had a m.o. bride he was all grins about, until their baby came out wrongly tinted quite unlike either one of them. He was pretty hard to get along with after that.
I would hope to have raised a son wise enough to make his own good choices. Hopefully also strong enough to tell the old man where to go, should I take issue with his choice. Then I’d know I’d done my job as a father. Sorry if that doesn’t fit the narrative. 🫤
Another vote for Russian. A sturdy young babushka.
Originally Posted by Morewood
Another vote for Russian. A sturdy young babushka.
I thought babushkas were the older ladies with 2 layers of wool sweaters, heavy skirts, and pantyhose! You can tell the pantyhose cause when they fart their ankles swell!
Tons of women here, why go to all that trouble. You are asking for trouble!!!
Originally Posted by hanco
Tons of women here, why go to all that trouble. You are asking for trouble!!!
lol. Most of them are trouble. Ex’s, Brat kids, baggage…. Cheating bitches…
The top two questions cut to the core of the problem.
If things go all Weimar Republic or Soviets-invade-Eastern Germany, then there are some characteristics you want to avoid at all costs. -Lazy and unwilling to do what needs to be done, even if it is dirty or cold or breaks their fingernails -Unable to see what is because they live in a world of "should-be" -So addicted to social affirmation that they cannot leave their girl-friends -Did I mention "entitled"?
If you want to be successful in a free-fall into 1880-to-1920 technology, surround yourself with skill-players who played the game at that level.
So, if you had to pick a country-of-origin for a mail-order-bride to be an asset to the family during civil disorder and a rapid retrograde to 1920 technology....which country would it be?
Thanks a million.
-Joe
If you're writing a story about a man's son showing up with something that could be an asset to the family after the collapse, you need to be asking about mules,....not wives.
Only if they are stump-broke.
"Frankly, Leftennant, most men just ride it into town...."
Someone from the former Jugoslavia that lived through the break-up.
Need someone handy with a weapon, can run Ham-ops network, and make killer bread in austere circumstances.
Absolutely "killer" suggestion. Croatia?
Bosnian - Survivor of the siege of Sarajevo. Great city: readers will recognize from 84 winter Olympics and older ones will recognize its part in WWI kicking off. It's the Jerusalem of Europe - you'll have a Mosque, Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church and a Synagogue in the same area. Don't know how deep you'll go on background story but the town is like 80% Bosniak (Bosnian-Muslim) and only 5% Croatian, Serbs are like 4% with the rest "other". So odds are she's Bosniak by ethnicity but likely very flexible on that and converted to be with the boy. The Bosniaks I knew and worked with - they're Muslim in name mostly, not so much as a hard core like we think of in the Middle East. Hell I knew a Bosniak female that was reading the Quran in the bathtub, fell asleep and drowned the book. Destroyed. Females aren't even supposed to touch it much less read it.
Bosniaks can be very "flexible" in belief (how they became Bosniaks to begin with and why the Serbs hate them so much) and that likely fits stories then.
Then again - ham-op networks are more Serbian in execution, less so Bosniak from my experience so that part might not jive. Call it "artistic license"
Read the original post. This is a post apocalyptic scenario fantasy short story. GFC
Still working on the lead-in. Things are about where they are now +12 months. At a macro level, the election is a hot-mess. The dollar lost world-reserve currency status and inflation is +100%. Cities are burning. Suburbs are burning. All of the usual suspects are being rounded up and being made object lessons of. But at the level of the story, very little of that is known. The group is very isolated, sort of like Gilligan's Island. But they are about to get a [bleep]-ton of people dropping in looking for a safe-haven.
Someone from the former Jugoslavia that lived through the break-up.
Need someone handy with a weapon, can run Ham-ops network, and make killer bread in austere circumstances.
Absolutely "killer" suggestion. Croatia?
Bosnian - Survivor of the siege of Sarajevo. Great city: readers will recognize from 84 winter Olympics and older ones will recognize its part in WWI kicking off. It's the Jerusalem of Europe - you'll have a Mosque, Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church and a Synagogue in the same area. Don't know how deep you'll go on background story but the town is like 80% Bosniak (Bosnian-Muslim) and only 5% Croatian, Serbs are like 4% with the rest "other". So odds are she's Bosniak by ethnicity but likely very flexible on that and converted to be with the boy. The Bosniaks I knew and worked with - they're Muslim in name mostly, not so much as a hard core like we think of in the Middle East. Hell I knew a Bosniak female that was reading the Quran in the bathtub, fell asleep and drowned the book. Destroyed. Females aren't even supposed to touch it much less read it.
Bosniaks can be very "flexible" in belief (how they became Bosniaks to begin with and why the Serbs hate them so much) and that likely fits stories then.
Then again - ham-op networks are more Serbian in execution, less so Bosniak from my experience so that part might not jive. Call it "artistic license"
Thanks Mr Blue Green (or is it Green Blue?)
Sounds like a winner.
I won't keep you guys up late tonight but will revisit in the morning.
Second-place was a girl who was home-schooled in Alaska by a Texas abuela who taught gunsmithing as a side-line.
I say have some fun with it. Your reader will expect her to be Eastern European because of the stereotype. Make her some kind of prima donna but let her character evolve when she realizes she has to pull the trigger or die.
Then make her kill someone with an axe to protect the family. And not sloppily, so maybe there’s a question about her past. She knows how to swing an axe and when the time came she didn’t hesitate. No one had to tell her what to do.
I say have some fun with it. Your reader will expect her to be Eastern European because of the stereotype. Make her some kind of prima donna but let her character evolve when she realizes she has to pull the trigger or die.
Then make her kill someone with an axe to protect the family. And not sloppily, so maybe there’s a question about her past. She knows how to swing an axe and when the time came she didn’t hesitate. No one had to tell her what to do.
Much more engaging than a trope.
And give me credit for the idea.
Good idea! And make her a Trans, that’s in love with Taylor Swift and she goes around finding victims to slay with her axe. She ties them to the bed, turns on some Taylor Swift, and takes the axe to them! She cuts up her victims into small pieces, cooks them up and feeds them to homeless and is later given an award by the towns Mayor for her humanitarian efforts. But little does the public know, she is the Axe Swifty!!!
I say have some fun with it. Your reader will expect her to be Eastern European because of the stereotype. Make her some kind of prima donna but let her character evolve when she realizes she has to pull the trigger or die.
Then make her kill someone with an axe to protect the family. And not sloppily, so maybe there’s a question about her past. She knows how to swing an axe and when the time came she didn’t hesitate. No one had to tell her what to do.
Much more engaging than a trope.
And give me credit for the idea.
P
I married a trailer park girl who had never driven a manual transmission, cut up or canned a deer, made sauerkraut, or canned beans. Never gardened until we started dating. Timid.
Right after out honeymoon she went to truck driving school, we drove long haul for several years. She has been right beside me in some food gathering escapades, we mostly lived on deer meat for a couple lean years. Put up over 100# of sauerkraut this year.
That skinny, trailer park girl that was never actually in a Redneck lifestyle, now lives in a very nice neighborhood. And will out work a lot of men cuting wood, helping dig a ditch, right beside me fixing a septic pump.....
Pharmseller has a great idea. If your style allows for Tom Clancy style character development. Let her be a person.
No idea how your story line is, how they meet. This young woman could provide a lot of storyline.
Spoiled, educated, beauty queen, daughter of a wealthy Swiss Banker. Loves cross country skiing, mostly for solace.
Gotta ask, the mail hardly works now and you think it will after chit hits the fan? Well as long as your dreaming go to Misc. Forum, Hot ladies thread scroll thru a few pages and check out Nata Lee just a hard working Russian gal with no plans to go back I'd guess. Looks like she could pull your horse around. Lol
I So my currently story line needs a mail-order bride. Please share your opinions!!!
If the [bleep]-hit-the-fan and social order disintegrated and your son showed up at your house with a mail-order bride, where would you want her to have come from?
So, if you had to pick a country-of-origin for a mail-order-bride to be an asset to the family during civil disorder and a rapid retrograde to 1920 technology....which country would it be?
Thanks a million.
-Joe
I'd go with Russia. When I was going through my divorce from Satan back in the mid-90s, I saw an ad for mail-order Russian brides. I subscribed just as a lark. Every month, I got a diskette with a few dozen bios and photos. The drop-dead gorgeous ones were all X-d out and marked "Taken." The ones left had bios like "Works in QC at Ammo plant #13" or "Insemination Specialist at Poultry Plant." They looked fairly high mileage.
I had a buddy who taught Supply Side Econ at Moscow University every winter. He said that as soon as he arrived, he'd be set on by gorgeous Russian women who asked to practice their English with him. He'd have a good time, wine and dine them and then dump them when he left back for the states. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Another vote for Russian. A sturdy young babushka.
Originally Posted by Morewood
Another vote for Russian. A sturdy young babushka.
I thought babushkas were the older ladies with 2 layers of wool sweaters, heavy skirts, and pantyhose! You can tell the pantyhose cause when they fart their ankles swell!
Sounds like my 2nd. grade teacher Mrs. Bath. Big 'ol gal who wore a tight girdle and when she passed gas, that girdle would hold that smell for a long time. Couldn't wait for the bell and a quick run outside for fresh air.
I say have some fun with it. Your reader will expect her to be Eastern European because of the stereotype. Make her some kind of prima donna but let her character evolve when she realizes she has to pull the trigger or die.
Then make her kill someone with an axe to protect the family. And not sloppily, so maybe there’s a question about her past. She knows how to swing an axe and when the time came she didn’t hesitate. No one had to tell her what to do.
Much more engaging than a trope.
And give me credit for the idea.
P
I have had characters that grabbed the keyboard and started writing the stories for me. It is fun for me when that happens.
The characters that do that have a coherent and plausible back-story. I need to pad this woman's resume to make her work. For instance, if she is in the 20-to-25 year-old range then she was not born yet during the Siege of Sarajevo, so I need at least have some idea of where her family went and what they did for 10 or 20 years before coming over here.
Sarajevo is very urban. Our post-SHTF woman must have rural skills.
She needs to not be afraid of physical work. She needs to be comfortable with getting sweaty, dirty and stinky. No, that isn't one of my "kinks". Thanks for asking. She could be an athlete but farm work isn't the same as pumping iron.
The devil's greatest lie (from The Screwtape Letters) is that there will always be another tomorrow. Women have a strong nesting instinct and are loath to believe their own eyes when they see their area-of-operation go from Code-Yellow to Code-Red. They anchor their families in-place until it is too late. Throw in the fact that the bug-out location doesn't have indoor plumbing and is physically isolated and you have strong resistance to the women processing data and deciding to move.
That means that the vast majority of the people who show up at the bug-out location will be single guys who can drop the apartment keys into the manager's mail-box and walk away.
To keep the story-line interesting I need to have a "family" show up at the bug-out-location early to keep the dynamics from going too high-testosterone.
That means I need a woman who is hyper-sensitive to what is going down. Maybe she was assaulted in her early-teens during civil unrest at the family's bounce location....say Syria and Arab Spring revolutions. Between the family history and living through Arab Spring she would be loading up the truck before her man put down his PBR and got out of his recliner.
Filipino women have big needy families that require lots of cash to be shipped 'back home'.
Most of them pretty good workers though, if ya can afford to support their families.
They are the friendliest folk you'll ever meet. Always happy but you're right about the "family back home" deal. My youngest brother married one. He's in his early 50s and she is probably in her mid to late 40s. Soon her son from the old country will be coming to Canada and will live with them. I'd take a hard pass on that!
I wonder how the process of a mail order bride works compared to marrying them in their country as far as visas are concerned
Marriage is their ticket to American citizenship.
Gotta watch cause that's all some are after..
Yup. My brother had a friend who met a Filipino girl onlline. He went over there and married her. He told my brother that it cost him something like $25k to get her a US visa. Then she got off the plane with her visa in 1 hand and divorce papers in the other. It cost him another $25k to get rid of her.
I wonder how the process of a mail order bride works compared to marrying them in their country as far as visas are concerned
Marriage is their ticket to American citizenship.
Gotta watch cause that's all some are after..
Yup. My brother had a friend who met a Filipino girl onlline. He went over there and married her. He told my brother that it cost him something like $25k to get her a US visa. Then she got off the plane with her visa in 1 hand and divorce papers in the other. It cost him another $25k to get rid of her.
My brother went through 4 Philippine nurses all gorgeous, and none of them could put up with him.
A nice sturdy gal with skills, some nice assets, she can catch and cook crawfish. I would be all in.
Wow! What a gal. I been out with over 40 gals in my life and maybe only one close to her motivation. She was portagee . Got tired of her quick. I would like to hear what Wabi and Hanco think of this Ukrainian gal? I met a Ukrainian gal about 24 years ago but she was engaged. She divorced about 5 years later. Nice gal. She worked at a bank, weekends at a waitress and taking a full load college class in business. I will never forget her.
A nice sturdy gal with skills, some nice assets, she can catch and cook crawfish. I would be all in.
Wow! What a gal. I been out with over 40 gals in my life and maybe only one close to her motivation. She was portagee . Got tired of her quick. I would like to hear what Wabi and Hanco think of this Ukrainian gal? I met a Ukrainian gal about 24 years ago but she was engaged. She divorced about 5 years later. Nice gal. She worked at a bank, weekends at a waitress and taking a full load college class in business. I will never forget her.