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Thank GOD I’m almost OUT OF HERE!

There’s no stopping these dipshits, not even the constraints that the Constitution places on tyrants in the government will rein them in, they ignore the Constitution when it doesn’t suit their evil agenda! They know that they will face a population that is furious at their tyranny and eventually the citizens will respond in kind to their despotism! This government has become destructive of the rights of the people and it’s time for a new form of government more suitable to the people to be instituted!
I hope that these despots suffer greatly…
Ain't going anywhere. Its a Federal license. No jurisdiction.
Will throw out on same Grounds as the Colorado ballot case. Interstate Commerce clause.
The idiots should have gone after State License.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Thank GOD I’m almost OUT OF HERE!

There’s no stopping these dipshits, not even the constraints that the Constitution places on tyrants in the government will rein them in, they ignore the Constitution when it doesn’t suit their evil agenda! They know that they will face a population that is furious at their tyranny and eventually the citizens will respond in kind to their despotism! This government has become destructive of the rights of the people and it’s time for a new form of government more suitable to the people to be instituted!
I hope that these despots suffer greatly…
Alaska will be much better for you and family. That entire west Coast north to south is a different country no way in hell would I live there if I did would move out.
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.
Foot on the neck of "free" citizens. Just politicians wanting more control of everyone's lives.
Submit.
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.
Move to Great Brittan
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.

You're right there are a lot of crazies out there, as a matter of fact there are so many crazies out there it's to dangerous for anyone to own a gun........
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.

If anyone wonders what happened to the PNW…….
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.

The big deal is the cost.

https://www.bigcountrynewsconnectio...a39961c-9e0e-5e6f-855b-87467ef38eb6.html

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Speaking on behalf of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, Troy Nichols said the bill essentially addresses a problem that doesn’t exist.

“The stated purpose of House Bill 2118 is to prevent firearm thefts and straw purchases at dealerships,” he told the committee. “However, federal and state data clearly demonstrate that less than 2 percent of all firearm thefts in Washington state occur at FFLs.”

The firearm industry’s biggest concern, Nichols said, is the prohibitive cost of retaining video footage as required by the bill.

“Even planning for the minimum number of cameras required, when fully implemented, conservative estimates point to costs of more than $197,000 per year for each FFL to digitally story two years’ worth of camera footage,” he said of the House version of the legislation.

Sen. Lynda Wilson, R-Vancouver, contends the bill, if passed, would be a “death sentence on dealers.”

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“Even the Seattle Times has editorialized against HB 2118, as noted in the article I wrote for TheGunMag.com Tuesday,” he emailed The Center Square.

“Should it pass, it almost certainly will be challenged in court because the impact on the firearms community and the small retailers would be devastating,” Workman said. “Even the Times admitted this, observing the bill ‘pushes gun control to a level of punishment for legitimate businesses.’”
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Thank GOD I’m almost OUT OF HERE!

Why ?
Originally Posted by RAM
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.
Move to Great Brittan

you guys are too paranoid. they way i see it if gun dealers can lock up their [bleep] properly and not let it go out the back door or busted thru the front then we all have a better chance of being able to buy from them in the future.

I live in a small town in Oregon less than 6k people ( away from the lib bullshit) and our pawnshop sells guns to felons and psychos and our sporting good store has been busted for the same. these people are NOT doing it to say screw the feds but for GREED. who pays? I will when then all get shut down
Grow a brain
Why does it cost $200,000 to backup two years of video ?
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Why does it cost $200,000 to backup two years of video ?

exactly... propaganda. i can back up 2 years of video for (guess) 500 bucks on cloud. not 4k
Originally Posted by mark shubert
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.
Foot on the neck of "free" citizens. Just politicians wanting more control of everyone's lives.
Submit.

No just politicians trying to regulate the [bleep] idiots and criminals who have 'the right' to sell guns. You cant get drunk and drive a car around other people can you? You cant pretend to be a surgeon and operate on people can you? we are too collectively stoopid to be able to act on our own will.
Originally Posted by RAM
Will throw out on same Grounds as the Colorado ballot case. Interstate Commerce clause.

Commerce clause had nothing to do with Trump v. Anderson.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&...QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0umUSR0YJUjkKTFUbj3Zy2
Originally Posted by Tesoro
Originally Posted by RAM
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.
Move to Great Brittan

you guys are too paranoid. they way i see it if gun dealers can lock up their [bleep] properly and not let it go out the back door or busted thru the front then we all have a better chance of being able to buy from them in the future.

I live in a small town in Oregon less than 6k people ( away from the lib bullshit) and our pawnshop sells guns to felons and psychos and our sporting good store has been busted for the same. these people are NOT doing it to say screw the feds but for GREED. who pays? I will when then all get shut down
Grow a brain
You think adding prohibitive costs to run a business is fine cause you're worried about smash and grab theft, but everyone else is paranoid?

As an aside, how many smash and grab robberies have taken place at gun stores in Washington in the last five years?
Originally Posted by dassa
Originally Posted by Tesoro
Originally Posted by RAM
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.
Move to Great Brittan

you guys are too paranoid. they way i see it if gun dealers can lock up their [bleep] properly and not let it go out the back door or busted thru the front then we all have a better chance of being able to buy from them in the future.

I live in a small town in Oregon less than 6k people ( away from the lib bullshit) and our pawnshop sells guns to felons and psychos and our sporting good store has been busted for the same. these people are NOT doing it to say screw the feds but for GREED. who pays? I will when then all get shut down
Grow a brain
You think adding prohibitive costs to run a business is fine cause you're worried about smash and grab theft, but everyone else is paranoid?

As an aside, how many smash and grab robberies have taken place at gun stores in Washington in the last five years?


wait for the venezualans to set up shop.
Originally Posted by Tesoro
Originally Posted by dassa
Originally Posted by Tesoro
Originally Posted by RAM
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.
Move to Great Brittan

you guys are too paranoid. they way i see it if gun dealers can lock up their [bleep] properly and not let it go out the back door or busted thru the front then we all have a better chance of being able to buy from them in the future.

I live in a small town in Oregon less than 6k people ( away from the lib bullshit) and our pawnshop sells guns to felons and psychos and our sporting good store has been busted for the same. these people are NOT doing it to say screw the feds but for GREED. who pays? I will when then all get shut down
Grow a brain
You think adding prohibitive costs to run a business is fine cause you're worried about smash and grab theft, but everyone else is paranoid?

As an aside, how many smash and grab robberies have taken place at gun stores in Washington in the last five years?


wait for the venezualans to set up shop.
Speaking of paranoia...
I may be wrong, but as I read the bill, all it does is address the building that the FFL is in. Security and video that are over the top - ALA Fort Knox. THAT is what will kill off the FFLs, even though they know that it will do nothing to stop any crime. In conjunction with Biteme's ATF, it is a one two punch for gun dealers.
FFL is federal. State can't stop that, but the fuggers can tax, price, and harass one out of business. Or just deny a business license to anyone with an FFL, perhaps?

Easy to do on top of onerous local "requirements" that cannot be contested under fed commerce laws.
Originally Posted by las
FFL is federal. State can't stop that, but the fuggers can tax, price, and harass one out of business. Or just deny a business license to anyone with an FFL, perhaps?
There’s no level legal or not that these asshats will not stoop too.
Blah blah blah.
Grow a brain.

You first.
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.

Molotov’s can be pretty deadly and damaging too. Same argument you made could be applied to anyone selling flammable liquids.


Go eat shît and choke on it.
I can't think of anything I'd be less likely to execute a smash and grab in than a gun store. That's like a Darwin award deal.

Given that politics seems to attract lawyers, it seems they'd be more adept at drafting legislation that's not counter constitution.

As to preventing theft: Given enough time and expertise, that's damned near impossible. Many years back a local Payless actually handled arms. Over a long weekend, thieves chain sawed through the roof, dropped down, and absconded with all of the handgun merchandise.

Leave our right to firearms alone. As for criminals that employ firearms, lock them up for life.
Originally Posted by Tesoro
Originally Posted by RAM
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.
Move to Great Brittan

you guys are too paranoid. they way i see it if gun dealers can lock up their [bleep] properly and not let it go out the back door or busted thru the front then we all have a better chance of being able to buy from them in the future.

I live in a small town in Oregon less than 6k people ( away from the lib bullshit) and our pawnshop sells guns to felons and psychos and our sporting good store has been busted for the same. these people are NOT doing it to say screw the feds but for GREED. who pays? I will when then all get shut down
Grow a brain

Sounds like plenty of lib bullshit in that area.
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by Tesoro
Originally Posted by RAM
Originally Posted by Tesoro
with the amount of crazies out there I dont see any problem with requiring dealers to ensure they lock up and protect their stock from smash and grabbers. whats the big deal? most already do. 1million liability insurance. if you cant afford that then you have no business being a dealer. times have changed and there are gangs of criminals roaming around.
Move to Great Brittan

you guys are too paranoid. they way i see it if gun dealers can lock up their [bleep] properly and not let it go out the back door or busted thru the front then we all have a better chance of being able to buy from them in the future.

I live in a small town in Oregon less than 6k people ( away from the lib bullshit) and our pawnshop sells guns to felons and psychos and our sporting good store has been busted for the same. these people are NOT doing it to say screw the feds but for GREED. who pays? I will when then all get shut down
Grow a brain

Sounds like plenty of lib bullshit in that area.
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There is.
The blue population centers in both WA and OR run the entire state.
Plenty of normal folk in the outlying areas, but just not enough to control the politics.
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