And there's a dead guy in Idaho. Granny got a gun.
lol
Should have added to those links, the 4-5 links to 24hourcampfire threads on the wolf story.
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"...shows the muzzled, listless animal lying on the floor of what appears to be a bar"
"The animal is barely moving, but clearly alive."
This description and video is what they've got for "animal cruelty"?
Here, let me describe my dog at this very instant: She's listlessly lying on the floor, barely moving but clearly alive. Should I post a video detailing my cruelty?
Again, I don't think the guy should have done this, but so far, the "cruelty" documented is people imagining and projecting. Good thing I don't take videos of my dog lying listlessly on the floor...GMAFB.
"...shows the muzzled, listless animal lying on the floor of what appears to be a bar"
"The animal is barely moving, but clearly alive."
This description and video is what they've got for "animal cruelty"?
Here, let me describe my dog at this very instant: She's listlessly lying on the floor, barely moving but clearly alive. Should I post a video detailing my cruelty?
Again, I don't think the guy should have done this, but so far, the "cruelty" documented is people imagining and projecting. Good thing I don't take videos of my dog lying listlessly on the floor...GMAFB.
You've probably never ran her over with a snowmobile either.
Thinking the "cruelty" part comes in due to the fact that the wolf was vaccinated and triple boosted but they were still forcing it to wear a mask.
Thinking the guy will be charged with something else if for no other reason than being a giant PIA to the Sheriff and DA.
"...shows the muzzled, listless animal lying on the floor of what appears to be a bar"
"The animal is barely moving, but clearly alive."
This description and video is what they've got for "animal cruelty"?
Here, let me describe my dog at this very instant: She's listlessly lying on the floor, barely moving but clearly alive. Should I post a video detailing my cruelty?
Again, I don't think the guy should have done this, but so far, the "cruelty" documented is people imagining and projecting. Good thing I don't take videos of my dog lying listlessly on the floor...GMAFB.
You've probably never ran her over with a snowmobile either.
Maybe you should write an article for them. That's not the "evidence" they're presenting as cruelty. A video showing the animal "lying listlessly, barely moving but clearly alive" is what they're presenting as the evidence for cruelty. What they're presenting as evidence, isn't. Goalpost shifting anyone?
I'm no fan of wolves by any means and have no problem with killing them. I also don't believe in torturing animals for my amusement or that of any sick friends that think it's funny or cool. They wouldn't be my friends for very long.
If he wanted to kill the wolf by all means kill it. Quick and merciful. Not like some psycho that thinks he's a tough guy because he can run down a wild animal, incapacitate it and then parade it around as some form of trophy. That wolf was probably in shock.
I hope they throw an animal cruelty charge at him and any other charge they can come up with. AZZHOLES like him give hunters and sportsmen a bad name. Something that's not needed.
By thinking that what he's doing to that WILD wolf is not torture to that animal then you are therefore condoning his actions and one can only conclude you would have no problem doing the same.
Good day.
Anybody not really paying attention to this and does not see the seriousness is a moron. Even though the fool was not hunting and ran it down with a snowmobile will not matter. All the write ups will tie it to hunting and they will use this to garner support for total protection for the wolves nationwide.
Hunters will pay the price for this idiocy. Still think it is funny?
Anybody not really paying attention to this and does not see the seriousness is a moron. Even though the fool was not hunting and ran it down with a snowmobile will not matter. All the write ups will tie it to hunting and they will use this to garner support for total protection for the wolves nationwide.
Hunters will pay the price for this idiocy. Still think it is funny?
3 different Wolf Protection groups filed lawsuits the same day as the article against USF&W for not listing wolves as endangered using that picture and story as cause. USF&W will capitulate, relist and put a nationwide ban in place to settle the suits.
Next an EO banning snowmobiles on federal land 😳
"That wolf was probably in shock"
...as I said, projection of feelings, but not evidence.
"By thinking that what he's doing to that WILD wolf is not torture to that animal then you are therefore condoning his actions and one can only conclude you would have no problem doing the same."
...Already said I don't think he should have done that; it was stupid, for reasons mentioned (MAC e.g.) and unnecessary. You may have decided the wolf lying on the floor was being "tortured", but the video presented as evidence of torture isn't. Opinions and facts, two different things.
"Still think it is funny?" Not sure to whom this is directed, but I have certainly never seen it as funny, nor said such (see above). My original comments were about people calling for jailing and hanging the guy. Over-the-top hysteria IMO. Most recent comments are simply about presented evidence of torture, which isn't actually evidence of torture. More emotional hysteria perhaps, but not evidence of torture beyond being projected as such.
This is a psyop and the purpose is to fsck livestock farmers, hunters and trappers.
Somewhere, there is a hand-wringing vegetarian vag that's glad this is getting publicity.
I'm no fan of wolves by any means and have no problem with killing them. I also don't believe in torturing animals for my amusement or that of any sick friends that think it's funny or cool. They wouldn't be my friends for very long.
If he wanted to kill the wolf by all means kill it. Quick and merciful. Not like some psycho that thinks he's a tough guy because he can run down a wild animal, incapacitate it and then parade it around as some form of trophy. That wolf was probably in shock.
I hope they throw an animal cruelty charge at him and any other charge they can come up with. AZZHOLES like him give hunters and sportsmen a bad name. Something that's not needed.
By thinking that what he's doing to that WILD wolf is not torture to that animal then you are therefore condoning his actions and one can only conclude you would have no problem doing the same.
Good day.
pretty much.....just kill it and be done. the guy is a pos, put a shock collar on his ass. no empathy/sympathy at all for people that torture animals......bob
I agree.
Last time I went to the circus I got thrown out for shooting the bear and both elephants.
Its just cruel to parade them around like that.
"That wolf was probably in shock"
...as I said, projection of feelings, but not evidence.
"By thinking that what he's doing to that WILD wolf is not torture to that animal then you are therefore condoning his actions and one can only conclude you would have no problem doing the same."
...Already said I don't think he should have done that; it was stupid, for reasons mentioned (MAC e.g.) and unnecessary. You may have decided the wolf lying on the floor was being "tortured", but the video presented as evidence of torture isn't. Opinions and facts, two different things.
"Still think it is funny?" Not sure to whom this is directed, but I have certainly never seen it as funny, nor said such (see above). My original comments were about people calling for jailing and hanging the guy. Over-the-top hysteria IMO. Most recent comments are simply about presented evidence of torture, which isn't actually evidence of torture. More emotional hysteria perhaps, but not evidence of torture beyond being projected as such.
I wonder just how many bills and laws get passed because of
emotional hysteria ?? Facts mean very little when pitted against emotional hysteria. At least that is my observation. This idiot is going to cost us (hunters, sportsmen, livestock ranchers and outdoor enthusiasts) dearly.
kwg
"That wolf was probably in shock"
...as I said, projection of feelings, but not evidence.
"By thinking that what he's doing to that WILD wolf is not torture to that animal then you are therefore condoning his actions and one can only conclude you would have no problem doing the same."
...Already said I don't think he should have done that; it was stupid, for reasons mentioned (MAC e.g.) and unnecessary. You may have decided the wolf lying on the floor was being "tortured", but the video presented as evidence of torture isn't. Opinions and facts, two different things.
"Still think it is funny?" Not sure to whom this is directed, but I have certainly never seen it as funny, nor said such (see above). My original comments were about people calling for jailing and hanging the guy. Over-the-top hysteria IMO. Most recent comments are simply about presented evidence of torture, which isn't actually evidence of torture. More emotional hysteria perhaps, but not evidence of torture beyond being projected as such.
I wonder just how many bills and laws get passed because of
emotional hysteria ?? Facts mean very little when pitted against emotional hysteria. At least that is my observation. This idiot is going to cost us (hunters, sportsmen, livestock ranchers and outdoor enthusiasts) dearly.
kwg
Agreed, and more and more, we seem to be prone to that kind of thinking. Falls under my thoughts on Fantastical Ideologies driving thoughts and behaviors, this being mostly under Eco Ideology.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/19379358/2
This is a psyop and the purpose is to fsck livestock farmers, hunters and trappers.
Please explain how this qualifies as a psyop. PETA got to the guy and made him do this and take pictures because they had dirt on his family?
Because that certainly is more logical than an idiot, doing idiot things, and not thinking about how his actions would be perceived.
"That wolf was probably in shock"
...as I said, projection of feelings, but not evidence.
"By thinking that what he's doing to that WILD wolf is not torture to that animal then you are therefore condoning his actions and one can only conclude you would have no problem doing the same."
...Already said I don't think he should have done that; it was stupid, for reasons mentioned (MAC e.g.) and unnecessary. You may have decided the wolf lying on the floor was being "tortured", but the video presented as evidence of torture isn't. Opinions and facts, two different things.
"Still think it is funny?" Not sure to whom this is directed, but I have certainly never seen it as funny, nor said such (see above). My original comments were about people calling for jailing and hanging the guy. Over-the-top hysteria IMO. Most recent comments are simply about presented evidence of torture, which isn't actually evidence of torture. More emotional hysteria perhaps, but not evidence of torture beyond being projected as such.
Shock is a physical manifestation of stress, particularly when there is an underlying injury. Kinda the thing that would happen to a wolf when run over by a snowmobile and then held hostage by the thing you fear most.
$100.oo fine,, please don't do this again.
over
This is a psyop and the purpose is to fsck livestock farmers, hunters and trappers.
Please explain how this qualifies as a psyop. PETA got to the guy and made him do this and take pictures because they had dirt on his family?
Because that certainly is more logical than an idiot, doing idiot things, and not thinking about how his actions would be perceived.
The publishers push this and make it seem scandalous with the use of loaded language.
hysteria /hÄ-stÄ•r′ē-É™, -stîr′-/
noun
Behavior exhibiting excessive or uncontrollable emotion, such as fear or panic.
A group of psychiatric symptoms, including heightened emotionality, attention-seeking behavior (AKA virtue signaling), and physical symptoms in the absence of organic pathology. The symptoms of hysteria are currently attributed to any of several psychiatric conditions, including somatization disorder, multiple personality disorder, and histrionic personality disorder. The term hysteria is no longer used in clinical use.
A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women, in which the emotional and reflex excitability is exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished, so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into paroxism or fits.
The word hysteria originates from the Greek word for uterus, hystera.
Apparently that guy will never get laid again.
I've driven by this bar countless times over the last 45 years and never stopped in once.
Next time I will. Why not see what they have to say? What's the worst that could happen?
And you could give us a report that didn't come from a bunny hugger or a queer.
Clearly wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but to date we don't have regulations and fines for being stupid.
He's becoming a poster boy for anti-hunters.
I agree.
Last time I went to the circus I got thrown out for shooting the bear and both elephants.
Its just cruel to parade them around like that.
They makem work Fer warter.
He's becoming a poster boy for anti-hunters.
Will he replace the guy that killed Cecil the lion? Did this wolf have a name?
I agree.
Last time I went to the circus I got thrown out for shooting the bear and both elephants.
Its just cruel to parade them around like that.
This comment has me cracking up. The visual, alone!
Everything looks bad for "us" sportsmen.
If the Democrats don't have to apologize for killing babies...then I am not going to apologize for this janer.
Everything looks bad for "us" sportsmen.
If the Democrats don't have to apologize for killing babies...then I am not going to apologize for this janer.
Come on, get with the program. They are only referred to as "babies" if the mother is planning on giving birth. If not, they are just "things" which we shall not mention. I'm an expert in "Lib-logic".
He's becoming a poster boy for anti-hunters.
Will he replace the guy that killed Cecil the lion? Did this wolf have a name?
Dancer?... Prancer?... no, Wait... how bout Rudy!... red tape on his nose n all...
Everything looks bad for "us" sportsmen.
If the Democrats don't have to apologize for killing babies...then I am not going to apologize for this janer.
Amen brother!
You know as well as I do they'd flush a baby down a toilet.
Everything looks bad for "us" sportsmen.
If the Democrats don't have to apologize for killing babies...then I am not going to apologize for this janer.
Amen brother!
You know as well as I do they'd flush a baby down a toilet.
And that justifies being just as barbarous as they are?
Dont think so.
It is too bad the Fire has become such a cesspool! Cranky, haters abound!
Everything looks bad for "us" sportsmen.
If the Democrats don't have to apologize for killing babies...then I am not going to apologize for this janer.
Amen brother!
You know as well as I do they'd flush a baby down a toilet.
And that justifies being just as barbarous as they are?
Dont think so.
Well go ahead and give up your ar's and your handguns and your camo and hi cap mags.
They make us all look bad.
Obviously he already did as if he had a gun he woulda just killed it, but gotta get them jollies.
Everything looks bad for "us" sportsmen.
If the Democrats don't have to apologize for killing babies...then I am not going to apologize for this janer.
Amen brother!
You know as well as I do they'd flush a baby down a toilet.
And that justifies being just as barbarous as they are?
Dont think so.
That shows how FU your thinking is.
Here, I'll explain it to you: Animals<>Babies
I'd hate to find out what some of you think about fur trapping or the castration of live stock. OMG! And heaven forbid we ever brand a cow!
Naw my thinking aint fugged up. Abortion is wrong flat out, dont agree with it at all.
But how about this, your dog comes and steals my chickens. Instead of shooting the fugger I just set out a bait with Strychnine knowing full well that the dog is going to suffer bad. You arent going to save it what no matter what you do, you either take it to the vet to be put down or you shoot the fugger. But then you blame the mudderfugger that poisoned your dog for making it suffer.
Fugging hypocrites
And by the way the farmers dog died with a chicken in its mouth. Never knew what hit him
Bler de bler de bler.
Hypocrites eh? Like you guys shooting some deer in the ásshole just as it jumps the fence?
Guy was an azzhole.
Hopefully they make an example out of his behavior.
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