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Posted By: Rock Chuck Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
The hijacked Ukrainian ship loaded with tanks & small arms is being ransomed by it's owner for millions. PIRATES . I just can't believe that the entire world can sit and cry while this goes on. A bunch of petty but well armed thieves is holding the whole world hostage and the governments just sit and let them do it. If stopping it requires leveling Somalia, so be it.
The ransom will be delivered to the ship. Doesn't someone have the gonads to make sure that these pirates never reach shore with their loot?
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
They're taking the cash onboard the ship? Okay, so you give them the cash, which has a GPS traking device inside. Then about half way back, they're met by an AH-64 Apache. Surrender or die.
Posted By: MontanaMan Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
Big opportunity for some outfit like Blackwater or others, to provide protection on ships in that area.

Wouldn't take a lot on the ships to repel & get rid of the pirates as they attempt to hijack ships.

Can't believe they aren't already doing it.

MM
Posted By: Kemosabe Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
They're all waiting for us (U.S.) to do it. Why should anyone else risk their people and spend their money when the US will handle it - 'cause no one else has the will.

I'd say its about time we stopped being the World's Police Force and let some of the other whiney bitches start hauling their share. Nobody else wants to be "the bad guy", the enforcer. Screw 'em all.

Send it all to Davey Jones!
Posted By: Ron_T Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
Seems to me a half dozen 75 mph PT boats with dual-barreled 40mm "pom-pom" semi-automatic WW2 anti-aircraft guns mounted on their bows would handle those "pirates" fairly easily.

They'd have the speed to run 'em down fast and the fire-power to blow 'em outta the water in a N.Y. minute without getting close enough for the pirates to return any fire with their machineguns !~!~!

I wonder if there are any of 'em left in the "moth-balled fleet" ?!? smile

Of course, a couple of F-18s could "do 'em" even faster... grin
Posted By: eh76 Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
Seems the Chinese are at least willing to fight back! Story even has a few pictures of them building molotov cocktails and using them..

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,469205,00.html
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
Actually, the French have been taking care of business. They did two operations back in September that sent a loud and clear message; no French flagged ships have been messed with since.

Their Para's did a night time parachute drop a few miles away from a luxury yacht that had been taken. Swam in to close the distance, boarded, killed one pirate and the rest surrendered.

Also, in the same month. They paid off some Pirates, then tracked them back to their home base, and then raided the home base, killed 3 and arrested the rest.

Posted By: pick Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
Well past time to

KICK A**

We should state very simple, "we protect our flag, you protect yours" Let each country protect their own flagged vessels.

Remember the pirates do this for the $ ... No money ... no piracy.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
The pirates will likely take the money and return to a mother ship. Track it until it's in sight of the cheering crowds on land. Then come in with shock and awe - a squadron of the biggest and loudest fighters we have. Fire it up so that the flames can be seen from here. Put on an air show that they will never forget.
Posted By: VAnimrod Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Big opportunity for some outfit like Blackwater or others, to provide protection on ships in that area.

Wouldn't take a lot on the ships to repel & get rid of the pirates as they attempt to hijack ships.

Can't believe they aren't already doing it.

MM


Exactly.
Posted By: Cheesehunter Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
The pirates are based in coastal villages in Somalia. We know where they are.
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Posted By: johnw Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
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Big opportunity for some outfit like Blackwater or others, to provide protection on ships in that area.


it would in no way surprise me to learn that the "pirates" had the backing and support of a major military organization...
is there a military somewhere that is cash strapped or needful of resources???
Posted By: djs Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
Originally Posted by elkhunter76
Seems the Chinese are at least willing to fight back! Story even has a few pictures of them building molotov cocktails and using them..

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,469205,00.html


This might work for a freighter, but I would not want to be on a tanker throwing Molotov cocktails and taking incendiary / explosive fire back!
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
China is sending several battle ships to the area to serve as escorts to their cargo ships. I would hope even the dumbest pirate would have the sense to avoid one of those...but maybe not.
Posted By: RockyRaab Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/19/08
As mentioned earlier in other threads, it is against international maritime law to have arms of any kind aboard a merchant ship. In fact, that's largely what the pirates are banking on.

Now that the Chinese say they'll soon patrol this area, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if boatloads of pirates set sail, and are never heard from again. The Chinese are masterful at denial.
Posted By: shreck Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/20/08
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The Chinese are masterful at denial.


Well mebby the Chinese will shoot the pirates and bill the familys for the bullet!

I have to agree with you, the Chinese are the most capable of shrugging and saying, "what pirates"? grin
Posted By: Steve_NO Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/20/08
Originally Posted by KevinGibson
Then about half way back, they're met by an AH-64 Apache. Surrender or die.



How about just die?
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/20/08
A dead pirate can't be acquitted in a kangaroo trial
Posted By: mickey Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/20/08
Originally Posted by Kemosabe
They're all waiting for us (U.S.) to do it. Why should anyone else risk their people and spend their money when the US will handle it - 'cause no one else has the will.

I'd say its about time we stopped being the World's Police Force and let some of the other whiney bitches start hauling their share. Nobody else wants to be "the bad guy", the enforcer. Screw 'em all.

Send it all to Davey Jones!


Exactly grin
Posted By: Steve_NO Re: Pirates win a big one - 12/20/08
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
As mentioned earlier in other threads, it is against international maritime law to have arms of any kind aboard a merchant ship. In fact, that's largely what the pirates are banking on.



Well, actually, no. International maritime law has no such prohibition. Some nations and some ports prohibit "armed" vessels, but some Ma Deuces in removable mounts, which could be secured in arms lockers when in port and used during dangerous passages, should pass muster even there. Its underwriters and vessel owners risk avoidance and the general moral cowardice of the West when faced with determined indigenous peoples.

The pirate's port facilities should cease to exist over night.
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