And warns Mexicans who want to come thru Maricopa county that his department has firepower to more than match anything they might bring.

Guessing most of the cartels are getting their firepower from the mex mil who got it from us - he's gonna end up needing a couple of SAWs and an Apache wouldn't hurt either.

M2 probably isn't going to over penetrate enough....

brave talk for a one eyed fat man!

Hope Sheriff Joe is ok.

The reply was the best John Wayne scene in any film IMO.

What is an M2?

Ma Deuce - 50 cal machine gun

Belt fed?

yep, and mounted on what appeared to be an Armored Personnel Carrier.

Where's the pics ??


Mike

Joe needs some A10s with cluster bombs and plenty of ammo for that 30mm Gatling gun.

There was an article in Police mag. a few months ago about the wpns. of the MCSO. They've got a wide variety of wpns. from M4's to the shorty SOCOM M14 and other long arms.

I saw Sheriff Joe and the APC/M2 on Fox news this AM. That guy is great!

You guys are all wanting Joe to use pansy weapons.

This is what he needs, infact several of them along the border wwould be good. I think the Mexicans would get the message.

I disagree, he would be better served by a dedicated group of skilled head shooters.
I sure wouldn't want to escort a bunch of mules while expecting my skull to explode at any moment.

The exact quote was, "I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man."

"Fill your hand you sonuvabitch!!"
Why arent there movies like that any more....

If they don't believe in dragons, Puff my change their minds.

The stuff he's getting is Mil-Surp. Any Govt. LE agency can get it. Just takes the right forms and some phone calls, it's based upon need.. I know of an agency here in Mid. Tn. that got two used OH-58 (Bell 206) helicopters.

It's night, the Coyote is leading a group across the river. As they regroup at the top of the bank, the distant sound of a prop plane drifts to them.
Then their world explodes as a 105MM round impacts in the middle of their group.
One shot, ALL killed.

That, my friends is Spooky/Spectre.

Maybe a bit of overpenetration, maybe not.

Ed

Awesome macheene. Seen videos of it action. Mind boggling to say the least.

The type of M2's Shreriff Joe needs are Bradley's! About a platoons worth. 25mm would be much better than the 50 cal.

Maybe because we ain't got no John Wayne no more.

This is true, kind of sad to think that there may never be another like The Duke....

Glad this was clarified. Saw M2 and was thinking....so what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xz_qffdVXk

Wow I was thinking, not much to fear there. Then I saw the apc thing and figured Joe weren't gonna get one to haul an M2 around, so I realized it was one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOmLknUnxU&feature=related

But I always had a soft spot for these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0t-0l0Zv0I&feature=related

And these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m225CyqeEAs

Bring this baby out of retirement-- A Mini@ 4000rpm 7.62 --3 M2 .50's and two M-60's

Awesome

M2 Hell, a couple of M1s is all needed...M1 Abrams that is

Yep, we got 4 Huey UH1D's, two flyable and two for parts and 3 4WD GMC 3/4 ton trucks plus 5 Deuce & a half's. And that was only 2 trips up to Rucker.

Good thread, fellas.

Cool, 50 cal full auto !!! I want to play... Can I guard America for a while ???


WTG Joe !!!!

That isn't puff that is a Spooky or a Spectre....IIRC "puff" was a DC-3 with guns.

Actually was a C-47 (civilian version was called DC-3)
AC130 gunships are Specters.
(Unlike Arlen, they attack the enemy)

The AC130 comes in 2 flavors...Spectre and Spooky....difference in armament.

Thanks, I did not know that.
Ok, one has 4 minis, 4 Balfours, and a reckless. What other setup is there and which is which?

Puff and Spooky were one and the same. C-47 w/ minis

An interim variant was the C-119 and was called Shadow or Stinger based on configuration.

Spectre is the C130...since around 1968 as I recall. It's weapons have included the 40mm Bofors, 20mm Vulcan and 105mm howitzer.

Phan Rang AFB also had the C-119 Shadow-- They helped me set up the Mini-- Not as popular as Puff-- but very effective -- http://www.ac-119gunships.com/ If I can remember -- The Shadow there had 2 mini 7.62 and 2 Vulcan 20mm Web

I think Sheriff Joe would dig this too.

Difference between Spooky & Spectre

I could be wrong but I think today's Gunships such as the AC130, no longer uses the 7.62mm mini because they operate so far away from the targets - well out of the range of the 7.62 --Web

When I was in California I had cause to work at Lockheeds site on a small field in Pedley (I think it was)from time to time. The strip was so small they had to close a road to land and takeoff.
I met the director of Gunship Operations and he had one of his people give me a tour.
He/they were real proud of their ships.

I do not know what a 25mm or 30mm sounds like but if you have ever heard a 50BMG they sound like a pissed off hornet on steriods and 500 to 700 per minute would scare the Bagesses out of anybody GO Shriff Joe

The biggest thing that the Cartels/Mexico Government drives into the USA is Hummers, correct? If Joe wanted to stop them, wouldn't a 50 cal BMG be enough?

Yep but..... Difference between Spooky & Spectre

Puff is plenty for the border!

A-10 Warthogs.................by the dozen

A friend of mine is a MG collector, and owns a 50, among others. He runs a 20" tube and still has problems with overpenetration.
Pic is my daughter ( a couple of years ago ) posing during a break at an annual picnic. The same guy owns a Mag 58, supposedly one of 6 in civilian hands.

OH YEAH!

and here's the reply, in living color:

http://www.cowboyway.com/Clips/FillYourHands.wav