Ok here goes..

I think the campfire needs change..seems all we do anymore is fight and bicker and call each other names.

I for one am getting sick of it and imagine there are a few others too.

It seems some of us think because we have been on here for a long time or have high post counts we can do or say whatever we want because either are high post count or our friends will come to our rescue.

Yeah I'm guilty too, I admit it and to be honest I have been looking the fire over with a different eye lately mostly because I have been seeing some people's true feelings, and I have to say its quite disheartening.

Anyway like I said, the fire needs change....maybe an attitude change!

All there ever is anymore is hatred vileness and discontent toward each other whether it's diserved or not, and it's getting old!!!

Used to be one could disagree with another on here and maybe...a few Words were exchanged and everyone moved on without dog piling, now a days it seems ok to continue to carry on and even bring family into it.

Like I said I know I am guilty as well mostly because I was pissed at the lies told about my family and me and I know that doesn't make it right.

Anyway I'm getting sick of it and think we ALL should try to refrain from personal attacks, dog piling and hatrid toward each other.

I will start by turning a new leaf and try to become like my old self but without the sharp tongue and quick finger.

If it helps I removed my sig line and ask.....who is with me on change???

Its real easy, just dont be a pu$$y.

Gunner

hope'n change or regular?

Yea it,s getting old hat.

I reserve my schit talking for two things.

1.) When a thread has become ridiculous anyway.

2.) This forum because nobody here is trying to learn anything, as opposed to the other forums. This forum is all about opinion and theory.

The chicks that drag all their little "rivalries" to each, individual thread are the minority.



Travis

Guilty, or guiltiest? You made remarks about a man's wife less than a week ago.

Seems to me that there is another thread discussing how 'civil' the fire has become of late.

It's real simple. Just stay out of the fray.

+ 1

Bingo! Nothing good comes out of these threads we're talking about here.

I almost only attack a single member here.

He deserves it and I'll likely to continue to do so.

If this disturbs others that is not my intent but I have no control over how others feel about me or what I write and they each have the option of ignoring me.

I also pull few punches when someone is called out for the willful cheating of another member in the Classifieds.
Dishonest, honorless people, and downright thieves make me angry and I'll say so.

[bleep] you.


Travis

You're mean Travis!

Lead by example and if you don't like what you see, don't engage in it.

Only when I run out of beer...


Travis

probably 99% of the threads here are completely drama and abuse free.

some individuals and topics seem to account for almost all the nastiness.

It is kind of frustrating to have to wade through the bickering to find a real discussion. Also, I no longer feel comfortable having many discussions up on the screen when my kids are near by.

Don't try and tell me what to do.

I'm not going to change.



And ...

Respect the post count.

In some cultures they burn dung on the campfire.

If we can keep the dung flingers at bay, the campfire will be pleasant.

That's really all you, or anyone, can do.

Like the Michael Jackson song says, "Take a look at yourself, and make a change."

Doc,

Should I bob the hammer on my no dash 4" 66?

Yes or no are your only options on this.


GO!

Travis

Gentlemen, this is the greatest hunting forum on the entire internet. Please join me in changing it.

WHUT???

Yeah, did Doc just quote Michael Jackson?

Get a rope...

AFTER he answers my question.



Travis

I think it starts with a bit of direct response to the topic at hand. If I respond to one topic in a tongue and cheek manner then I've got flames coming. When someone tries to be serious and respectful in any given topic they do not have personal attacks coming based on other posts. Topics should be kept in kind, respectful where someone is serious, sideways when they aren't.

If you don't have anything to add to the topic at hand there is no point going on it and jumping someone, just leave it be.

Harsh

No, its just men cuttin' up and being men, no harm intended, but no pouting and wanting to show your sore mangina to anyone that will look or listen.

Hell, I'm stupid, I gotta be thick skinned

Gunner

Yeah, if that's what you wanna do.

No.




















NONONONONONONONONO YOU STOOPID IGNORANT [bleep]' DESECRATOR OF A VALUABLE PIECE OF S&W HISTORY NONONONONONONONONONONO!!!!!!

Fine.

You're no fun.


Travis

That helps make up for the MJ music reference.


Helps....

I'm going to smack my clit and start a thread about language now.



Travis

Yeah. I knew I'd get schitt for quotin' that song.

I plead Fatherhood... my kids used to wanna listen to MJ songs when we were on road trips, and one summer vacation "Black & White" and "Man in the Mirror" were the high-repitition tunes.

Goat hed.

I'll bring the swears...

Lol. Plus one.

That's what my ex always used to say...

I tell my kids to stare out the window and cry.


Travis

Snork!

... like you'd be able to find it to smack it...

Mine used to say I was controlled by the devil.


Travis

For those that have been in the military, you know what a blanket party is right?

The dialog of late has been rather nasty, but some things need to be discussed, comfortable or not. Others, not so much.

Just gotta dig around for awhile.


Travis

You didn't have my kids. My only option was kill them or start cryin' out the window myself...

If you're gonna keep digging, grab a shovel.

Or, just stop talking about it, my testosterone is starting to ache.

Okay, I spewed coffee on that one. You win.

Yeah, that's when the California guys would give out free [bleep].



Travis

LMAO.


Travis

Mine used to call me superman after I'd had a few too many.

Bingo on the some things need to be discussed.

Resorting to personal attacks, especially when that person has no intelligent response is in no way being part of a discussion, let alone adding to the wisdom of the group.

More spewing.....

Post count kinda tells the story...Some have something to say on a topic,and others won't shut up...Post after post of nonsense....

Just a thought.

Jayco

TMI, dood!!!

Now that wasss mean Travissss

Why? Did you tie a cape to your c@ck?


Travis

I described it as "gross" but whatever.


Travis

Apparently, I lasted a whole lot longer.

See where extra effort gets you?


Travis

Just on this thread alone......

Why? Did you tie a cape to your c@ck?

Yeah, that's when the California guys would give out free [bleep].

[bleep] you.

I wonder what the sponsors of this forum think about that kind of trash talk?

Jayco

They're probably looking for some California boys. Just a guess.


Travis

I really wish you wouldn't have quoted him because the "ignore" function don't work then.
I didn't read all of what he typed but from what I gather,he don't like the stink'n bed he made for himself. Too bad!
You made that bed Tom,now you have to sleep in it. It's called karma and it's a b!tch sometimes... Oh yeah...Look sympathy up in the dictionary,it's in between $hit and syphilis.
Smoke that...

logcutter, I expect that the sponsors of this forum have looked at the demographics studies RickBin has done and know that there are a LOT of guys on here who buy a lot of their stuff. And being in the outdoor-recreation-supply bidness, they know that "boys will be boys".

In other words, I don't think they care one way or another.

logcutter... pm headed your way...

Geez, leave for a few days and come back to this! Now I really gotta worry about you ...quoting MJ

You turning liberal on me? We got a cure in antelope camp for that ya know...

Tell him I said hello.


Travis

Amazing ! One of the biggest serial trolls on this site (Tommy boy) who with his butt buddy trolls NSAQAM, EH, fishhead, bigbuck and a few more has been responsible for driving more people off the site, whining to the site owner about people they dislike, having guttersnipe mouths, endlessly supporting a serial liar (Bricktop) ..... NOW wants to see reform. Sorta like Hitler moving to Israel.

Being a sinner myself (what was her name ?) I am more than willing to give anyone a chance to hit the "reset" button.

I wish him the best of luck in trying to get the rest of the troll brigade to follow his example. Knowing how they operate, he'll probably end up like Gandhi .....

deflave: all the sponsors care about is who is buying from them and who is not. Between site members and sponsors, our club spent over $10K last year and are up to $3K as of today in 2012.

Money talks and BS walks. We talk with $, the trolls just run their pie holes.

Where is NOBODY/BigStick/Boxer when we need him ?

You ain't talking about stump breaking him are ya?

I have to admit.. the hardest I've ever laughed is when Frammy got brave and posted the famous antelope picture on araig.

Larry Root.. thanks for the humor.

[bleep] you!

Yep, that was classic, "cross eyed, drooling, retard..."

I've found that bailing out of threads, and "ignore" work really well when the stupidity factor gets too high. Leaving a thread works well, because a new thread on the same subject will start up in a few minutes anyway. Life's too short to get into a snit because of something some idiot posts online, anyway.

Of course, when people start popping off about "California boys," I wonder how they know, and I'm reminded about that documentary on Montana life... Brokeback Mountain.

Part of change means giving people who are willing to do so a chance to walk their talk.

People are lightening up, all except for Travis that is, he's a punk.

Think I may ask BT if i can load up wit him and ride out west to see the real rootlover in person.

Gunner

Damn shame I missed that!

Naw it involves a rattlesnake den...

typical liberal telling people how they need to live....

+1

Youse guys are givin' me the heebie-jeebies...

Not Tom. He burned that bridge and he did it knowing full well what was going to happen to his reputation here on the Campfire. He was thinking that he was somehow more important than anyone else here. He showed his true colors and lost most of the respect that some here had for him.
He is right about this place needing a change... Tom leaving would be a good start.

I would love to know why some even bothered to lie on there registration...Each and everyone of us agreed to it but some refuse to follow it..Why,because they can without recourse for now.

NOTE: YOU MUST CHECK THE "I AGREE" BOX FOR YOUR REGISTRATION TO BECOME EFFECTIVE.

FORUM RULES

1] Please be respectful of other posters at all times. The ability to refrain from personal attacks, obscenities, and flame wars is a minimum requirement for a log at the Campfire.

Just treat others like you would want to be treated!!!!

Jayco

The problem is that there are apparently people who want to be treated like the idiots they are.

Well, if I act like a complete jackass, I fully expect to be treated like one. I just give others the same courtesy.

You rang?

Gunner

And which one of you guys are the official hall monitors,making the decisions if a post is worthy and just what is out of line?

It's simple and we all agreed...Follow the rules that you agreed too.

Jayco

lmao.

Us guys? You were the one quoting MJ!

Larry,

It warms my heart to no end to be placed on such a prestigious list and with such good company.

Thank You.

Phew, and there I was worried for a minute that civil discourse might take the place of the yellow bellied, inbred, sheep [bleep] azzwipes that make up the "Troll Patrol".

Yeah, they're all gonna come somewhere to someone's home and "[bleep] em over", "kick their sorry azz", "bend em over a stump" and all the other 5th grade playground bullscheit you would expect from a bunch of betwetters who hide under a desk playing Mr. Big. Pants pizzing wimps who got their azzes kicked at dodgeball by the girls team and cried all the way home.

The fact that they insult a fine man (not me) with serious eye problems who killed a very good Wyoming Antelope with an old 99 Savage by calling him a "crosseyed drooling retard" tells you all you need to know about this crew of spineless dolts whose beginning was salvaged from the dumpster behind a sperm bank.

Scum suckin, wimps whose empty lives are consumed by trying to impress others between whacking their willies while looking at a Michael Jackson video.

You'll never see any of these leftovers from a [bleep] wipedown "walking their talk" in this century.

Nice try Tom, but I think you got outvoted by your buddies.

So what is in a persons DNA that his fingers won't listen to what his brain says?

That's scary and dangerous!!!

Jayco

Damn. You get singled out in open forum like that, and I STILL can't get a nasty PM from that jackass to qualify me for turdlike status!

There is no flaming balm in Gilead...

Yep same old spiteful Larry the Liar! BTW the drooling retard remark was directed specifically at you.

Maybe we ought to refer to you from now on as Larry the Liar or the Artful Dodger or Teflon Larry or Member of 100 Usernames or simply Dishonest


Pick one for us...

fish head, eh76, ingwe, et al... in the context of this thread, if that isn't a nasty remark pointed VERY CLEARLY in my direction, then what is it? I ask you!?!?

I mean, it's not a nasty PM, but here it is in open forum!! Surely THIS is sufficient to qualify me for admission to the Turdlike People?

Group Hug.

somebody strike a nerve? I can see that eye twitching now.

Don't forget member of the 2011 10K club.

It may be directed but it has to come in a PM from olddouche1942 aka Enterhim..... Sorry rules is rules...

Just poke at the troll like you would with a stick at a snake...sooner or later they snap and strike....

GL that is just rainbow child material...

Doc...hang in there...you'll get there one day..


Besides, you got extra credit points for the Malinois Incident....

I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would spell "ass" with z's.

No way, I dont think spineless [bleep] sacks have nerves.

Gunner

Always wondered why he stuck that rifle in his EAR for the photo, is that a local custom ?

Hell, I've poked that old fart so many times I'm beginnin' to think he likes it... maybe if I send him money to buy one of his fake rifles on the Classifieds and bounce the check deliberately I might be able to BUY a damn nasty PM...

Sheesh..

I'd like to apologize.

A moderator sent me a PM and asked me to clean it up.

Sorry if I offended anybody.


Travis

I guess you guys just want to run the hateful run each other down gamut.

Nobody wants change?

My time here may be shorter than you think.

Just try ignoring all the trolls and not responding to any hateful stuff.

And EVERYBODY QUITE QUOTING the DAMN trolls!

Look on the bright side...... at least we are not driving car bombs into each others homes or house of worship.

Heck, everybodys just scuffling, a bit of rough housing isnt harmful.

Gunner

Naw, that's when all the Montana boys get all cozy under their poncho liners and play Brokeback Mountain.

A "[bleep] wipedown" ?

WTF? That is something I've NEVER heard before ... EVER.


Larry,

Did you just make that up or is that a phrase you commonly use?

Either way, you travel in some strange circles.

BTW, you're not doing very well at being civil. What happened to the religious Larry that prayed for us? Have you flip-flopped and created a new persona this week?

I heard Whitney Houston drowned Michael Jackson in a bathtub...or something like that.

I've always taken what you've said as seeming like it had a sort of sense of humor attached to it.

Well, Tom, if you had actually BOTHERED TO READ the first 2-3 pages of replies, you would have read a lot of folks saying they agree with you. And that the first and ONLY place any of us can institute change is in our own behavior. And that your decision to change YOUR attitude and behavior was generally welcomed.

Thereafter, the general consensus seeming to be that your OP was good, and your decision approved of, we moved on to other stuff that is generally more fun that other stuff, like... work. Naturally, there has been a good deal of good-natured abuse of and by 'Fire members who enjoy such rough-housing and also enjoy a healthy, if sometimes a bit aberrant, sense of humor.

Other than Larry the Root, of course, who has no apparent sense of humor and gets pizzy when people rough-house with him. Oh, and BrotherBart, who you apparently REALLY OFFENDED at some point in time. Whatever. Get over it. Bart's only one guy, and although I like him a lot, there's lots of other guys on here who you can get along with. Ignore him. (It should be easy... just visualize having to kiss or make love to Renee Zellweger any time his name/avatar comes up... )

So, in reply to your "nobody wants change?" comment, I suggest you re-read the first 3 pages of the thread and draw some encouragement from it all.



Well, if that's how you really feel.... bye.

I'm making an educated guess and sayin' that Larry's probably off his lithium again. Or maybe it's his Zyprexa, or his Divalproate...

Its good to have a Doctor in the house...

He thinks it makes it more polite?

Does that mean I'm FINALLY and officially turd-like, Your Turdbahness?!?

Have you publicly insulted me lately???

Dayum you swallowed that all the way up to the fishing reel...

Light N Da Loafers Larry.

You havin' one of your spells again?

You mean like when I recently wished upon you the amorous attentions of a thousand horny Belgian Malinoises?

" Troll Patrol"....we used to be the " Brat Pack"...

Whatever happened to those days...?


good times....

That's too fancy...you have to just be blunt....it works the best.

I did thirteen times earlier today. Said you had a bakers dozen boomsticks in your fave caliber. I couldn't help myself, just blurted it out.

Dooooood...I'm a K9 Trainer...thats not really an insult....

Well we do patrol for trolls like Larry....he is just loosing his grip.

ingwe is a closet 270 fan who really knows it is much better than a 7x57!

Oh, okay...

Hmmm. I'm not very good at direct insults to people who are generally reasonable, polite, and put themselves out for their fellow man. Remind me again of something turdlike Tom has done?

I just gave you an example above.

They don't get much lower than that one....

LMFAO.......priceless.

Okay... may you have visited upon you the seminal effluvia of a thousand horny Belgian Malinoises AND may you have to pay your own drycleaning bill...

NOW You're talkin!

Then it gets better.........awesome.

ingwe likes the 270? Well, hell, NOW how am I going to hold anything against him?

Hey, ingwe, I'm gonna bring an extra 270 to WY Antelope Armageddon this year, JUST for YOU!!!

It is seriously funny, the contriteness, the humility....

that ought to do it right there!

OK That Fuggin' DOES IT!


Feel free to change your Sig line to include a Turdlike Reference!


Welcome to the fold!

It was even for him! I bait my CA sets with c@ck.

Curse you WSSM...


Travis

LMAO

Gunner

I don't want to be turdlike either. I walk alone in this bitchh.

Unless shrapnel starts a club.

We'll call it....wait for it...waaait for it.

The Aviators.


Travis

Sheesh!

If you decide on any of the same criteria i.e. A Nasty PM


Id be glad to help

How many times are you going to say that?

Don't let the door hit you on the azz on the way out!

He can be the official Doc-turd

I love how serious people take themselves.

Even if I walked into work today, and quit, there would be a huge sigh of relief.


Travis

That was baaaaad...

Don't speak to SLM like that you sumbeetch!


Travis

Especially here on th' innanet...

OK...how about this?



The Official Proctologist!

A devil In Aviators........you got it going on.

fish more fight less...

I agree, not that it matters to 99.9% to most people on here but I used to think this was the best forum there was with the best classifieds by far.

Now 9/10 forums turn into a bitch thread within the first page and the classifieds are half full of everything but classified ads.

I think I prefer Doc-Turd... the only way I'm EVER gonna do a colonoscopy on any of you low-lifes is in a full Hazmat suit with EXTRA drugs...

Write yourself a prescription, suit up and get with the program!

Awful quick to raise your hand for that one

Do you have an affinity for [bleep]? azzholes?

You know it bro!

If a chick ever tells you, you are controlled by the devil, just ask her "Then why are you mad at me? Shouldn't you be mad at the devil?"

They get REALLY red. It's freaky.


Travis

DOH!

Not really, but upon review of my ER cases over the past week, the [bleep] azzholes definitely have an affinity for me...

Nice catch, heavywalker!

As I related to my old friend DonOTMW back on the Shooters boards years ago, "Here's a guy who's just beggin' for a rigid sigmoidoscopy... and I'm gonna use the JUMBO scope...".

Your a Twoll ????

Always have to laugh at [bleep] like that, do people really think others are going to care if they pack up their toys and go home?

Apparently. Who'da thunk it?

I change my diapers at least once a day.

Reminds me of certain threads here on "Hunter's Campfire."

Snork!!

Good one, Ken!

And I changed my Dads before he died...Were all headed that way, just some sooner than others.


Jayco

I don't expect anyone to care if I leave as a matter of fact most would probably be happy, I just thought it would be nice for some change in attitude around here and from what I have read the majority is quite happy stewing in the past.

I just am getting sick of it is all I'm saying.

Then [bleep] leave you whiny dickhead!

Tom, Tom, Tom... do you EVER read the ENCOURAGING stuff????

I reiterate:



The ONE characteristic of almost everyone who leaves the Campfire in an unhappy manner, as far as I can discern, is their willingness to take banter personally and be offended by it. Then they turn around and hurl invective at others, and in the end they always blame somebody else for their unhappiness.

I'm sorry to say you're following the pattern, Tom.

I think if you're serious about seeing the 'Fire reform, you need to change the way YOU read other folks' posts, look for the good side of what they have to say, and learn to be less thin-skinned about the stuff that may have been written in haste and mis-stated.

A long time ago I learned that I am always better off assuming people aren't deliberately trying to offend me, and to go out of my way to not give offense in turn. I would not be on the internet at all (other than work, research, email, etc) if I couldn't do that. You can do it too. Take a deep breath, dial back the angst, and see what you can do.

Guess it is all in how you perceive life, most of what I read was some pretty funny [bleep]. YMMV

Dam Doc your fast, you typed all that in the time it took me to type one line.

Good posts, Doc.

Also, it kinda reminds me of a de-motivational poster put out by Despair, Inc.

Dysfunction

I thought the high post count meant that there are those lurking the internet without a life

That's a good one, Constant!!! LOL!!

I didn't read more than a few posts... but damn, come on, if you can't handle it here how are you going to handle it when you get out of the institution in the real world?

Luckily [bleep] stirring trash usually always can't ride it out forever and stay... they are self flushing eventually.

cabin fever boys.. mostly cabin fever...

Where is Stick when you need him?

Naw it means you have satellite TV and I don't

Because my brain works at another level than most, this was my first thought...

If... man who goes to sleep with itchy ass, wakes up with stinky finger...

What kinda finger does a proctologist have?

Kent

yea and was going to leave or die or some other bs. before that!! Looks like an ass tring to redeam theirself to me

Had a great father growing up- Check

Spent 9 great years in Alaska killing and catching all manner of stuff whilst still building a post count to chap other people's asses - Check

Recently bought a great house and property - Check

Married my best friend (no, not Bart) - Check

Served almost 29 years proudly and honorably - Check

Made many GREAT friends on the 'Fire - Check

Will retire in 90 days - Check

Tom264 has renewed my faith in God as I now find myself saying daily 'There but for the grace of God go I' - Check


Life still don't suck - CHECKMATE

All of the above is true, but your bottom line is actually the sum of all of the parts. Hope your retirement is all that you imagined. IMHO, you earned it! Thanks again for your service.

+1 here

Nobody does more whining than you, Roto Root.

You could try hitting your own reset button and see if there is a chance that it might reset your lying rear on some other forum so you can quit cluttering up this one with your stupidity.

And take Brent D and Jeff Obama with you.

Well all I can say is, "will all the canucks please raise your hand, or stand up."
The rest of you can leave.

When you're good, good things happen to you.

I think it's Bush's fault.