seriously, WWII was fought off=shore. so was Korea, and South Vietnam, and Iraq and Afghanistan, and maybe others.

so, if we were attacked on domestic shores, who would be on the short-list to call at 3am in the morning, roust them out of bed, and ask for assistance?

Every armed American citizen. That's who.

Canada and England. Mexico if we'd offer up citizenship. China if we would assure them that we'd pay off our debt, but they may be the next invading world power.

I think you guys would do pretty darned well, but I have no doubt that we'd pitch in.

oh, i agree that an armed American behind every blade of grass is not a bad thing, when push comes to shove.

we'd sink their transport ships and shoot down the planes, before they ever got here.

It's a dumb question Gus but I oughta be used to that by now.There ain't a lot of us(quality not quantity!)But I could not ever see Canada standing by while the US fought a foreign enemy on your own territory.If we we were needed we'd be there,your enemies are OUR enemies as well.The same goes for the other countries that make up what's left of the "Free World"(GB,Australia,NZ,etc.)If it was ever needed these nations would stand with you,as you have stood with us. Monashee

Seriously it's a seriously stupid question, then again...

barney frank, nancy pelosi and bill ayers.

Still, impossible as it may be, it's an interesting question. Is there a country that would risk its blood and treasure on our behalf?

I say 'no'.

so, y'all are suggesting not to bother the UN, but to try and keep it all in the family, so to speak? i agree.

but, i'll match and then raise ya one. i think Mother Russia is in play. and i have no knowledge or evidence of that. i think they are our nearest neighbor beyond Canada on the North and Mexico on the South. but, i digress.

this is just the internet. a time and place to have a lot of fun, ok?

I believe we have already been attacked on our turf....

Israel.

Given time, it's not stupid at all. With present technology, the bulk of the damage in the next world war will not likely be a product of troop carriers and aircraft. Parties will pound population and industrial centers until countries beg for peace.

I think NATO treaty gets invoked by all members with an attack on one. Which ones actually show up would be another, more valid question.

Most if not all the nato countries are socialist.

Why would we need to ask for any help?

Any country or coalition that invaded us in the traditional military sense, would know they make a strategic error, in very short order.




Our enemies know this very well. That's why they use asymetric warfare.

We don't ask for assistance, we give it. The only way the USA will ever be destroyed is from within. I believe there are some voting shenanigans going on which have allowed the Usurper to sit in the Whitehouse. There is still no getting around the fact that a lot of people in this country have voted for a Muslim during a time that we were fighting two wars with them. If it is indeed a "War on Terror" and not a war on the Iraqi or Afghani people, as Dubya said, then "terror" has to be synonymous with "Muslim". And the people of the USA elected one. Whether Obama is an American really doesn't matter as much as it matters that millions of real Americans voted for him.

It's called the US Navy.

We are the only country in the world with the Super Carrier. No one else has anything even remotely close to our blue water capabilities.

There's an old axiom in international wargames:

He who has American Aircraft Wins!!!

Egypt?

The U.N. is the enemy. Could not be more anti-U.S.A.

Obie has friends in the middle east that are waiting to help us out (where is that throwup smilie?)

Egypt had Russian derived equipment in '67 and '73

No country has ever been bombed into submission...ever.


Besides, no country would be so stupid as to try such foolishness with Zero in the White House. Why, that would be suicide...madness I tell ya!

Does WWII ring a bell? might want to look into that...

Obama gave em better stuff

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/...0204/us-delivers-f-16-fighter-jets-egypt

First sign of an attack on the USA and the French would endeavor a preemptive surrender.

Next, a foreign invader should strike California first. On one hand, Los Angele and San Francisco would capitulate. On the other hand, there are more firearms in private ownership in California than any other state, with the exception of Texas.

That's just part of our Annual "don't go to war with Isreal" payoff that started under Carter. I think they are up to 200 F-16's by now. Good new is Figher Aircraft are high maintance vehicle, and if they piss us off, all we need to do is cut off the spare parts to ground their fleet. We sold alot of F-14's to Iran under the Shah, but once we cut off parts their combat capability quickly evaporated.

Snubbie,

You have a short term recall problem.

We bombed Serbia into submission. Libya turned tits up after our bombs launched by NATO partners mad a hash of their military. Desert Storm relied heavily on air ops that made the later lightning ground assault possible. The first defeat of the Tali Ban in Afghanistan by our in-country allies was made possible by US air and SPECOPS support.

It is not a universal solution but it has its uses.

1B

we don't need any help from a Foreign Government, we can take care of ourselves

I don't know the direct answer to that question, but by the time someone was able to mount any kind of invasion of our shores - as opposed to some kind of commando raid - we would have found out who our allies are long before.

It is very hard to imagine any war starting with an invasion of the USA. We're just too strong. A first strike nuke attack, maybe (probably) - but not a landing craft on the beaches and paratroopers in the air invasion. It would have to start elsewhere and anybody who wanted in would choose sides.

If it went badly enough for us in a conventional fight where it got to the point someone could actually stage a successful invasion with the end goal of occupying our entire land mass, we'd launch nuclear strikes. We'd probably launch them well before it got bad enough for that.

Nukes are the trump cards no one's used except once, and one could argue that they were not really needed, they just sped up the inevitable.

But given the quantity on hand today, they are a game changer. They would be used and it would be left up to the few survivors to see if nuclear winter really happened.

Argentina or Iceland or someplace in the heart of Brazil would probably emerge as the dominant world power by default, everybody else would be dead.

yep, obama can press us into service.

President Truman brought the Japs to their knees with only two bombs.

Weren't those the only two we had?

.. Think the Japanese would take issue with that statement.

Missing the point.
From WWII to Desert Storm, bombing was another "tool" in the arsenal of the military. The bombing, while necessary, was not the sole instrument of capitulation. Even the Japanese were pretty much beaten by the time the bombs were dropped.

I know the poster probably didn't intend it but seemed to indicate you just bomb the population and that alone, in and of itself, will cause victory. I know of no war (and world war was specified in the post) where bombing alone caused surrender.

as the OP, i too believe that those who rule the ground are the true rulers.

beyond that, i'm also of the belief that those who rule the sky above are a worthy group with which to deal.

the Army Air Corps, the Air Force, and NASA have important attributes to bring to bear.

i don't think anyone now alive can rule out a possible attack on the US. someone might be recieving a paycheck to say differently. i don't know.

it'll be interesting, if in the final analysis, we come under attack, and then who shows up on their horses to help defend us.

Well, the Mod Squad of course...

and don't forget...




WOLVERINES!!!

Mosques at ground zero, homos in the military, females in the infantry, illegal alien amnesty, over half of the voters in the US voted for Obama, $16 trillion in debt, China owns a lot of it, the list goes on... Why invade? Just donate to the Democrats.

Fixed it.

yea, with people here like Pelosi, Reid, zero, sac, and nwa what would be the sense in it.

Fixed it mo better

One thing that"Gus" SHOULD take to the bank is that chances of anybody who knew him from this site is HIGHLY unlikely to rely on his whiny, lunatic help.

Good coastwatcher, at best, the Aleuts or [bleep]' Greenland, I'd say.

So it's good we have something in common with them.

Chuck Norris

Don�t expect too many important attributes from the Army Air Corps

NATO countries.

REAL Canadians, guys like me, older and not as tough as years ago, but,with a lot of serious bush experience and shooting skills, WOULD INSTANTLY come to fight and, perhaps, die with you.......ANY mutherfuggen puke here who did not or helped said invader would be [bleep] kilt ded, right now if not right [bleep] now!

I am NOT totally convinced that a land invasion in the USA or Canada, WILLNOT happen and it could do enormous damage, BUT, NO current power can occupy and HOLD Canada, we are too big, too cold and too capable of truly brutal guerilla action.

I also doubt that Russia,would stand by for an Asian invasion of that sort, as THEY would be NEXT, given their HUGE resource wealth.

Helluva thing, though and it could happen, but, from the south and you need to close your borders and not allow ANY more of them into your country.

your point is correct, and well-taken. back in the day the Enola Gay did it's job, as did many others. the B-29 Super Fortresses were a fierce adversary when they came in bomb-laden in broad daylight.

England and the Commonwealth Nations, and possibly France, but except for Canada they would wait 2-4 years.

No one more than likely is going to help us. That's why we need the dooms day bomb.

If the US comes under attack, I'm calling the Justice League. I have them on speed dial.

US came under attack.... its here all ready...just small enought.... the old frog soup thing is going on as i type.

Thanks.

You are a good man as are almost all Canucks I have met.

not too worry syria will have our back.

Well, that was a surprise.

Gus;
There is no doubt in my mind that if asked, we'd be there in force at 3:01.

We might not be much compared to you folks militarily speaking, but one thing we Canucks seem to be known for is we're not shy to die trying for a cause we believe in.

If you've never seen this before, take 10 minutes to watch how the tiny community of Gander stepped up on Sept. 11 when the airspace was shut down over your country.



Our air force scrambled and either escorted or forced jets down into more than one Canadian airport that dark day.

Another little known fact is that up to 30,000 Canucks fought for the US in Viet Nam. No one knows for sure how many of us went there though, as many went with US ID.

I worked with one of those men - he thought it was an honorable cause and he put his life on the line because of what he believed.

This Canadian was a Medal of Honor winner there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_C._Lemon

Actually there have been a good number of Canadians involved in US conflicts since before the Civil War - there were even between 14 and 17 Canucks who died with Custer.

Anyway, Gus while I hope the day never comes, if it does we'll be there right beside you folks.

All the best to you this weekend Gus.

Regards,
Dwayne

I don't agree with much of anything you say Gus, but when it's time to move to the sound of guns on our shorelines I will but, I'll let them beat the crap out of DC and California to get rid of the enemies within first before repulsing the invaders. I'm sure it will be on the backs of young white males as it allways has been to do it. Magnum Man

I'd call Chuck Norris and be done with it. For the light work, the expendables would work...