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Posted By: cal74 Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Any go see the new Hobbit movie this weekend?


One of my favorite books of all time, but didn't care much for the first movie. Just didn't see the need for all the extras in it, curious about the second?
Posted By: iambrb Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
I did! I thought it was very good! But, and I am going to be careful to not ruin any spoilers here, the ending kinda ticked me off
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Originally Posted by cal74
Any go see the new Hobbit movie this weekend?


One of my favorite books of all time, but didn't care much for the first movie. Just didn't see the need for all the extras in it, curious about the second?
One of my all time favorite books, as well. I've read it four or five times over the years.

My complaint about the movie's first installment last year had to do with the acting/directing. The performance by the characters/actors brought over from The Lord Of The Rings seemed lackluster to me by comparison to their excellent work in TLOTR. That was disappointing, and likely due to inferior direction in The Hobbit.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Originally Posted by iambrb
I did! I thought it was very good! But, and I am going to be careful to not ruin any spoilers here, the ending kinda ticked me off
Had you read the book?
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
The acting in the first Hobbit seemed cartoonish compared to what Peter Jackson created in the LOTR series.

The wife and boys went to #2 last night, they enjoyed it.....
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Originally Posted by Kenneth
The acting in the first Hobbit seemed cartoonish compared to what Peter Jackson created in the LOTR series.
I would say wooden rather than cartoonish.
Posted By: cal74 Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Yeah, I agree about the acting/direction in general of the first movie. That coupled with the UN-necceasary add on's just didn't do much for me.

My girlfriend said she wasn't going to go with me if I was going to criticize it (she hasn't read the book). I've got to be out of town AGAIN this week for work, so figured I'd go see it by myself.


ps: I've probably read the book at least 4 times, maybe five times in my life as well.
Posted By: PassCreek Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
If you didn't like the extras in the first, you won't care for the second movie. There are whole new characters and it really diverges from the book. There is more cartoonish action as well. The audience, including my wife, seemed to really enjoy the cartoonish action parts.
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
I thought Peter Jackson should have been shot for what he did to the Hobbit, first installment. Making three full length movies out of a small book was nothing but blatant commercialism in the first place.
From what I see of the second iteration, it will be even worse than the abomination the first one was. This adding new, and useless characters, such as the 'elf maiden', and the total travesty of turning the escape from the Elf King's underground fortress into something 180 out from what Tolkein wrote, is just awful.
The hutzpah of Jackson, thinking he knows Tolkein's thoughts better than JRR did himself!!!

..........then, on the other hand, it's the only Hobbit movie out there. Yeah, I'll go, but I won't be happy with it. laugh
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Originally Posted by Kenneth
The acting in the first Hobbit seemed cartoonish compared to what Peter Jackson created in the LOTR series.

The wife and boys went to #2 last night, they enjoyed it.....
The book was cartoonish compared to LOTR. It was written more as a kids book while LORT was much more adult.
Posted By: cal74 Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Yeah, I'll go, but I won't be happy with it. laugh


My thoughts exactly...

And if I'm still alive/breathing as much as I may hate the 2nd one, I'll go donate more money for the third installment.


Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by Kenneth
The acting in the first Hobbit seemed cartoonish compared to what Peter Jackson created in the LOTR series.

The wife and boys went to #2 last night, they enjoyed it.....
The book was cartoonish compared to LOTR. It was written more as a kids book while LORT was much more adult.
This is true. I found the LOTR books boring at times (overly descriptive), while The Hobbit has never, at any point, bored me, though.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
I said the acting, and costumes were cartoonish like, I'm comparing movie to movie.....
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
I saw it last night. It's a good action/fantasy flick. Better character development and plot, I thought, than the first one. As far as the book, it was probably 30 years ago that I read it. About all I remember is the name of the dragon.

If you like the genre, go for it.
Posted By: old70 Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
IF you didn't call it the Hobbit, it was a pretty decent action flick. I'm convinced that Jackson read the cliff notes and decided to spice it up. Several made up sequences/relationships. The CGI guys had fun, though. In any case, it was somewhat entertaining, but to call it 'The Hobbit' is a travesty. He should have said 'Loosely based on The Hobbit' Just my two cents.
Posted By: Nebraska Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Went with my son on Friday. He really liked it but I thought it was too long for what you got (or didn't get)....I guess I'm still partial to the old animated one!! wink
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
i may go see it today. I have read the original books countless times.
and, it is kind of a joke in the family, i got this thing for elfen princesses. I think its the ears.
Posted By: USMC2602 Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Saw it last night with my bride and daughter, they loved it. If you're going to compare it to the book, probably shouldn't go. For a no-deep-thinking-required, fantasy/action flick, it's worth seeing. Plus, our theater serves Boulevard Wheat draft.........
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Originally Posted by RoninPhx
i may go see it today. I have read the original books countless times.
and, it is kind of a joke in the family, i got this thing for elfen princesses. I think its the ears.
You mean elven princesses, right?? whistle
Posted By: ratsmacker Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/15/13
Never having read the books,or seen the other movies, I liked the movie, but anyone who didn't like the elven princess is a [bleep] queer.

She was HAWT, there was nothing about her I didn't like. I like redheads anyhow, and she was a VERY fine example of the breed. She was hotter than a $2 Colt Python.
Posted By: Kodiakisland Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I thought Peter Jackson should have been shot for what he did to the Hobbit, first installment. Making three full length movies out of a small book was nothing but blatant commercialism in the first place.
From what I see of the second iteration, it will be even worse than the abomination the first one was. This adding new, and useless characters, such as the 'elf maiden', and the total travesty of turning the escape from the Elf King's underground fortress into something 180 out from what Tolkein wrote, is just awful.
The hutzpah of Jackson, thinking he knows Tolkein's thoughts better than JRR did himself!!!

..........then, on the other hand, it's the only Hobbit movie out there. Yeah, I'll go, but I won't be happy with it. laugh


I have not seen #2 yet, but my understanding was the first two movies covered the book, and number three was a completely new writing to cover the time between the Hobbit and TLOTR. Is this not correct?
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/16/13
I have not seen #2 yet. But Momma and I did just last night watch #1 again. I thoroughly enjoyed it and laughed out loud many times.

It is important to remember that Mr Tolkein wrote "The Hobbit" to entertain his young children. It is meant to be frivolous and silly in many respects, while still holding a serious moral and ethical message.

I have never seen a movie yet, which did not disappoint when compared side by side with the original novel. But yet, the movie is usually enjoyable in its own right.

In the case of Peter Jackson and his interpretation of Tolkien's work, the movies are well worth while just to see how Jackson has visualized Tolkien's characters.
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/16/13
Well it does have a hot Elfen princess, I'm not recalling her from the book. Usually politically-correct "female warrior" type characters irritate me no end, but I'll cut this one some slack, I mean she's an elf. Sam can get irritated enough for both of us grin

Better than last year's Hobbit movie; less cartoonish fight scenes and what is in there is done tongue in cheek, except at the end.

Smaug is well done, but I will say what I recall being absolutely riveted by in all them multiple readings of the book I did as a kid was the conversation between the burglar, Bilbo Baggins, and the awakening dragon. Didn't get that sense in this movie.

Not sure the action scenes that follow are in the book either. Likewise some major scenes involving Gandalf didn't ring a bell, don't recall if they were in the book.

We seen it for $5 each at the 9:30am show downtown. Money well spent, on balance its a decent flick.

Birdwatcher
Posted By: JCMCUBIC Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I thought Peter Jackson should have been shot for what he did to the Hobbit, first installment. Making three full length movies out of a small book was nothing but blatant commercialism in the first place.
From what I see of the second iteration, it will be even worse than the abomination the first one was. This adding new, and useless characters, such as the 'elf maiden', and the total travesty of turning the escape from the Elf King's underground fortress into something 180 out from what Tolkein wrote, is just awful.
The hutzpah of Jackson, thinking he knows Tolkein's thoughts better than JRR did himself!!!

..........then, on the other hand, it's the only Hobbit movie out there. Yeah, I'll go, but I won't be happy with it. laugh


I have not seen #2 yet, but my understanding was the first two movies covered the book, and number three was a completely new writing to cover the time between the Hobbit and TLOTR. Is this not correct?


I was understanding that the first 2 were for the book and the 3rd would be the time you mentioned.

Sam...I don't think it was an Elf King's underground fortress. LOL...at your "I'll go, but I won't be happy with it"... Is that your sig line for life? grin
Posted By: ConradCA Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Kenneth
The acting in the first Hobbit seemed cartoonish compared to what Peter Jackson created in the LOTR series.
I would say wooden rather than cartoonish.
The escape from the goblins in the cave was cartoonish.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Hobbit #2 - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by ConradCA
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Kenneth
The acting in the first Hobbit seemed cartoonish compared to what Peter Jackson created in the LOTR series.
I would say wooden rather than cartoonish.
The escape from the goblins in the cave was cartoonish.
Yes, I will concede that.
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