Just saw on the news Colorado runs out of pot, shops are rationing remaining supplies.

We didn't expect it to last this long. Initial estimates were all the good stuff would be gone by day 3.

5 million a day in sales, I'm sure the conservative right will have to horn in on this action , belief's be damned.

You do realise that financial success will be held up by those seeking to legalise all.

I'd be the first to take full advantage of any stoner

I have a bag of Doritos I'll sell for $35.

Absolutely. Just like booze.

we have tons of it growing in the National forests around here.

No wonder your living in Socialist BC you don't have brain one.

But I'm still laughing my ass off at all the fools that thought they were going to get cheap grass. Now there are taxes on it and the price has quadrupled LOL

Dood ... It's a total bummer.



Will humans consume all the weed in Colorado?

Does anybody know for sure?

I wonder how you an tell legal weed from illegal weed in Colorado. Seems like a great time to load a UHaul trailer with Florida MaryJane, and head off to Denver.

In a few years we will all get to see the results of that good old "Rocky Mountain High".

Qtip
Soli Deo Gloria!

That's would be a tax violation. Remember Al Capone?

Growers are licensed and registered, with very detailed information about the size of their grows.

The stores will only buy the absolute best stuff. If a grow does not go well, a grower may get stuck with it. If what you brought in wasn't top grade hydroponic, chances are you would be stuck with it.

As for the taxes, they are running about 25%, so the revenuers are taking in about 1.25 million per day split between the state, counties, and municipalities.

"The stores will only buy the absolute best stuff. If a grow does not go well, a grower may get stuck with it. If what you brought in wasn't top grade hydroponic, chances are you would be stuck with it. "

Supply and demand dictates that lesser quality weed will sell if higher quality is in short supply. Also don't forget the Big Lot's factor. Eventually some "retailer" like that is going to want a piece of the action.

We're in our fifth decade. I think the results are pretty obvious to all that aren't stoned.

That is just plain wrong doing.

just what is an eighth, quarter..etc of top shelf going for in Colorado anyway? If it's anything like the dispensaries out here, that's a gross exaggeration..

Pot flights!

After a stop at the feed mill yesterday morning I dropped in at a local restaurant for coffee and gossip. A fellow operates a auctioneer and travel agency business and said he sells a lot of "red eye" trips to Vegas this time of year, but is considering what some travel agencies in Madison WI are putting together.

Pot trips to Colorado.

http://www.mykindman.com/#!cannabis-/c1cty
Pricing EFFECTIVE 01/01/14 (tax not included):

Medical Marijuana Customers

(Red Card Required)
Connoisseur: $250 Ounce | $35 eighths
Top Shelf: $200 Ounce | $25 eighths
Special: $150 Ounce | $20 eighths
Pre Rolls: $4ea | 3 for $10
Cones: $8ea | 3 for $20


Retail Marijuana Customers

(Red Card NOT Required)
Connoisseur: $400 Ounce | $55 eighths
Top Shelf: $350 Ounce | $45 eighths
Special: $300 Ounce | $40 eighths
Pre Rolls: $6ea | 3 for $15
Cones: $10ea | 3 for $25


A year ago, Top Shelf was going for $125.00 per ounce.
It looks like the increase in demand has had an effect on price. Imagine that!!

According to a news story I read one store opened up selling it for $25 per eighth, but then demand was so heavy that by the afternoon they were charging $45 per eighth, and also limiting sales to 1/8 oz per customer even though the law allows sale of up to one ounce at a time. Same as gunstores or other dealers that sold .22 bricks for $20 and then started selling them for $50 or higher as supplies ran out while demand increased.

Apparently right now demand has driven the price of legal pot higher that what was charged for illegal stuff. As soon as supply catches up with demand, which could be a few months since you can�t just produce the stuff, it has to grow, prices will level out. Also, many stores that had planned to sell didn�t have their licenses or paperwork processed in time.

It�s just another drug, same as alcohol and nicotine. Once the hoopla dies down it will just be another commodity and somehow, despite overwhelming odds, the sun will continue to rise each day.

we have to put up with advertisements right now on the local radio stations, advertising a medical Marijuana expo locally, later this month, with "industry representatives" from all over Oregon in attendance....

This is a legalized expo for drug dealers in my book, with the 'excuse' that it is for "medical reasons"...

hell old moonshiners down south use to maintain, moonshine was for medicinal use also...

Sure it can help out some people who have debilitating medical conditions... but I believe that involves less than 10 % of the people who are carrying medical Marijuana cards here in Oregon...

the local radio stations even sell air time, for these so called clinics, telling you to come in and they can help you navigate your way thru the paperwork to obtain a medical marijuana card..

its just some more leftist BS shoved down our throats....

Seafire--What do you have against freedom?

It's going to open up a lot of opportunity for those that don't partake.

It's the one industry hiring right now in Colorado.

Don't worry. As people dope it up, more and more will lose motivation and more jobs will open up.

I sure as hell wouldn't have a doper working for me.

And things never change.

After 5 days of legal pot, everyone in Colorado is reduced to consuming illegal pot along with the rest of the U.S.

The clandestine growers as well as the cartels are Happy Happy Happy.

I agree. But, as an employer, you can make that a condition of employment, that employees must pass a drug screen, much the way you can't be drunk on the job...although you can legally buy booze.

This can't be true!!!! For years I've been reading here on the Fire that if pot were legalized the prices would plummet and all would be peace and harmony. Now that weed is twice as expensive as before I'm sure crime and cartels have vanished.....

I saw an article this morning that said stores in CO are accepting EBT for pot sales.


How long do you think it will take the lefties to get a law passed saying you can't punish workers for being high on company hours?

What a nightmare. If it's legalized, the state should just step back and close their eyes. I doubt that there was anything at all in the ballot measure about legalizing recreational use in Colorado to suggest the state establish a new but inefficient regulatory bureaucracy.

If we want market efficiency, let the private sector handle things. Now I have two reasons to avoid Colorado.

Hell in a handbasket - I hope it doesn't happen here, but I really don't have much faith.

What was the old saying? Reality is crutch for those that can't handle drugs. I'm having so much fun with reality, I don't have time to do anything else.

I say this because a lot of what I read here is right wing people are against near anything that hints of freedom. I may not have brain one , but it is at least not washed.

The state will make $25 million off this, and will spend $26 million.

At least they're making tax money off of it.

Of course they have to pay for government inspectors, tax officials, bureaus, committees, and the cops have simply transitioned from arresting potheads to arresting potheads that didn't pay the .gov tax and trying to sort that mess out.

But it's still a money maker for the citizens because the government is so efficient. I'd expect Colorado citizens to be getting a break on their state income tax this year because of the huge budget surplus.

Yep, Colorado is a lighthouse of freedom.

We have a lot of capacity that will be coming online in the next year. Within 2 years it will be back to $125 an ounce for top shelf.

I'm not sure I believe that. In this state you can't buy the wrong brand of milk on an EBT card.

Over the years I've known a number of people who used Dr. prescribed medications for various health issues.
Some of them eventually got to the point where their health improved enough that they could, and did willingly reduce the strength and/or frequency of their dosage.
The health of some of those actually improved enough to where they no longer needed any Dr. prescribed medications.

I can't help but wonder how many of the 'medicinal marijuana' card carrying users will be anywhere near as fortunate to ever see the day that their health problems improve to the point that they willing surrender their medical cards.

Why do people have an issue with people who use MJ for whatever reason?

I don't. I have an issue with your stupid notion that Colorado is "free".

LOL soon you'll be calling freedom detards killing white christian conservatives.

I'm all for freedom.

Speaking of which, would you like me to mail you some Surefire60 AR mags? No? How about some new PMag40s? Still no? How about some old school 30 round metal mags? Still no? Good grief, what about a piddly 20 round straight mag? How about a 15 round pistol mag, I just ordered some great 5 round extensions for it...20 rounds of .40 sound good to you? Still no huh? Not even without the extension?

Tell us more about "freedom".

Ok, so your a major corporation. How do you handle worldwide or nation wide polices for your company regarding your "No drugs/mandatory testing."? An office in CO would be affected how?

W

Not at all. The law is very specific that employers are allowed to fire people for marijuana use.

I'd love some. I'd just need you to mail those to me in Free Wyoming.

I don't think it'll effect employers that much. Alcohol is legal, but you can't drink at work or come to work drunk.

Just between you and me, you're better off with coupled 40s. I was given a SF60 and couldn't even load it without it jamming. I had to beat it on the ground to get my 8 rounds back. I've seen more malfunctions with SF60s than any other single piece of AR paraphernalia.

I don't know if this is state specific thing or not but a friend who is a salaried shift supervisor over maintenance dept. at a local manufacturing plant told me they had a management meeting last year where they were informed that in the future if any employee is caught under the influence of drugs/alcohol, if that employee first asks for help with quitting their 'addiction', the company is required to provide them access to a substance abuse program, as well as a second chance at employment if they successfully complete the program.

I remember the 80's and before when two hour 3 to 4 beer lunches or equivalent number of martinis were not unheard of, especially on Fridays. Lots of folks would have 1 or 2 at lunch every day.

Colorado is at "at will state", and this was specifically restated in our new state law as it applies to marijuana use. There were some issues awhile back where folks were trying to claim protection under the Americans with Disabilities act, claiming drugs/alcohol were addictions, but I don't believe this was ever upheld at the appellate level.

I worked for a company where the HR staff was afraid to allow managers to fire anyone who smoked because there were afraid they would claim ADA protection, but in reality it was just their HR BS, and it never became an issue.

I hear you. I knew the early one's had some issues, I wasn't sure if they ever worked them out. Since Pmags come out with the 40's I'm sure are right about them being a better option.

Just a point of order, but I think HRBS is all one abbreviation. At least in those companies where I've worked...

Hospitals around here are testing potential employees for tobacco use. Can't get hired if you fail the nicotine test. So I guess any business has the right to test potential employees for whatever they want.

ASniper..I'm not doubting you as I don't live there but was a true top shelf ounce really $125ish there a few years ago? Out here today and even ten years ago an ounce of the best has been and is still 3-400 dollars. Dispensary or street..

Holy ****!. Columbian Gold used to be $300 per pound.


So I've been told.

But if you fail a pee test for THC . . . You weren't smoking it at work or high before work, so that's an apples-oranges deal.

We had 4 foot signs all up and down Colfax advertising Top Shelf for $125 an ounce. Now I've never stepped foot in one of those places or sampled their wares, so I can't vouch for what they were calling Top shelf, but at the time, we were reported to have the lowest prices in the country, So low that some "legal" growers were going out of business.

Keep in mind, Top Shelf is not the very best. That's often called "Connoisseur", or something similar and goes for more.

Colorado is about to get what they deserve. Good luck with that.
From lovely pot-rich southern Oregon to you.

I see, thanks. The devil is in the details no doubt. I hung up my guns a while back, but just an observation...out here in the clubs there are very few tiers of quality. It's either the best or it's not on the menu. Competition has seen to that. $125 may get you an ounce of somebody's backyard experiment..

We don't have "clubs" yet, but they are already pushing for them. If clubs are allowed it could be pretty ironic. Patrons could smoke 40% Hash, but light of a cigar and off to jail they would go.

To clarify, dispensary is a better term, you cannot smoke in the "clubs" here either..

Any company has the right to set conditions of employment at their organization.

Many years ago, Alcoa Aluminum instituted a new policy that you could not smoke tobacco and work for them. Even at home on your own time. Employees fought it and it eventually went to the SCOTUS, where it was ruled the employees did in fact have the right to smoke in their own homes if they so wished, BUT they also had the right to NOT work at Alcoa where they required by work rules to be Tobacco free.......

So it is here at my company. An employee may get a Medical Marijuana card if he chooses, but if he's found to have THC in his system during a drug screen, he's terminated as it's against our company policy. You don't want to follow a companies rules, fine, just don't work for them!

How many are smoking away their future gun rights? Seems that it is still against federal law. I personally don't care, but if I were an anti-gunner, that's the list I would start on. The self-disqualifying.

Isnyour ebt card divided. Here they get one card that has both food stamps and cash assistance on one card the foodstamps can be used for food only but CA is fair for anything as it can be used as a debit card.

Here it's two separate cards. Anytime you are behind one of those types in the checkout they have to check out twice....once with each card.

C'mon Gitem....your comment about Ca ebt card being used just as a debit card, if I read that correctly, is completely false.

It is illegal to be too drunk. Is it illegal to be too stoned? Funny how you can't get a job because you smoke dope but if your a 2nd offense child molester the government will make sure you get equal billing. And it wont cost you a dime.

W

You CO people should be fighting to get licensed now.




Travis

Get licensed for what?

CO Pothead.....



W

Wonder if they would put an expiration date on it?!

W

In Ca it would be. The penal code for public intoxication doesn't specifically limit itself to alcohol. Just the impairment.

I'll have to try this pot stuff that everyone keeps talking about one of these days. I have yet to have a job as an adult that doesn't pee test, so maybe in my next lifetime...

What ever it takes to end the drug war we have to get rid of it if we expect to be a free people. Don't be afraid to let others fail.

"industry representatives" from all over Oregon in attendance ..... LOL who ..... Jeff Spicoli .... libtard doper

Sell weed.



Travis

All the government is going to do is push this back under ground and lose the taxes they were counting on.

Yeah...right.



Travis

Has anyone here looked at the incarceration costs of marijuana related arrests?

Certainly that dwarfs what pittance the taxes bring in

Smoking dope is to expensive even when you grow it yourself cause your grocery bill triples!

This is all a failed experiment.

I believe the supply/demand problem is just a speed bump. CO is going to get this money. And I predict others will as well.

Anybody remember the outcry when river boat gambling became legal? States weren't giving that up for anything.


Travis

Pot is selling for $400/oz plus 20 or 25 per cent tax in Colorado today. Is that a lot?

In 5 years u will be able to buy. At the Dollar General.

It's is for the time being.

How long before you think it's going to be 300 without tax?

Colorado really solved the drug problem,didn't they?

The fact that anybody actually buys weed is a testimony to what it does. Then again, they buy tap water in a bottle.

Setting personal beliefs aside and simply looking at it from a "Amsterdam" perspective, how is Colorado going to fare differently than Amsterdam.

Colorado ran out of dope on day two...at 400 an oz plus tax. It's really going to be tough for the cartels to adjust to that capitalistic nightmare.

400 an ounce for stuff with THC levels in the 20%-32% range.

What's the THC levels of the Mexican brick weed coming across the border?

I just love hearing Californians talk about freedom.

I'm sure we'll hear all about the tax revenue this generates. How many news blurbs will there be showing what the government will spend in legalizing, regulating, inspecting, and enforcing this new freedom? This is expanding the government folks and nothing they do is cheap, simple, or efficient.

We haven't legalized hard drugs, prostitution (yet, I suspect that's coming next), or unlimited gambling.

That begs the question of what happens to all the people that were jailed for possession and selling weed before it was legal.

Long over due. "Expanded government"- I think some got it backwards. Was the repeal of prohibition expanded government? It is less government intrusion. And other states will follow suit. Less time LEO dealing with antiquated drug laws and focus on serious crime like drug cartels.

Possession was decriminalized in Denver a few years back so there is a headstart on weeding the petty offender out of the jails. As for those already in for distribution, there is no current push to release them. After all, the licensed dealers down want the competition from the unlicensed dealers.

What's the big deal?
We've got a stoner in the White House.

And what exactly will they do to drug cartels without antiquated drug laws? Give them a stern talking to about how they're doing something that used to be against the law?

How was the government downsized by the legalization of marijuana? How many .gov officials or law enforcement officers were put out of work?

Complete legalization would be less intrusive. Regulated, inspected, taxed and enforced legalization does not create a less intrusive government.

For those moving the hard stuff we have a real nice public housing project for them here in Florence Colorado.

The rise of OC during prohibition is equivalent of the rise of drug cartels today. No profits, no business. The mafia hasn't been in the rum running business lately. As a member of OC said," tell people they can't have something and you create a market for us". It was true then and true today.

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Colorado made it easier for the underground market, not more difficult.

I could make a great living off the 15-20 year old market being ignored by Colorado's wisdom.

Fixt.

Gunner

The government was against gambling too until it figured out how to get its share.

And Al-Key-Hall.

Gunner

Oh, you need $150 and I get to hold your Super Blackhawk as collateral? No problem, man, I'll do that I guess. (Boy that Blackhawk has been a fun tool to "borrow" for the past 20 years. Probably did the guy a favor anyway, since use of the stuff would preclude him from owning anyway.)

From what I can tell (Denver Post), the current "shortages" and high prices are just reflecting the fact that it became legal to sell it on January 1st, and it also became legal for licensed growers to grow it for the recreational users on January 1st. So the recreational shops have a temporary supply shortage that will disappear in a few months when the growers catch up.

That, and the fact that there were only a handful of shops that got their licenses processed on time for opening on the first, meaning there were long lines and long waits to just get in the door. And shops were limiting the amount a customer could buy, ironically, very similar to .22 LR ammo when you can find it.

When they get around to processing all the retailer licenses (more shops open by a factor of 10 and way more competition) the novelty wears off (less demand) and the growers catch up (ready supply), the prices will plummet, and all the discussions on "$400/ounce pot" like the ones on this thread will go up in smoke. So to speak. As will any notion that making weed legal somehow makes it easier for the black market.

So no, I haven't cashed in my 401(K) to buy grow lights and fertilizer just yet. My money's going into strategically-placed Ben & Jerry franchises.

So, when the Federal Gold match and Tenex ran out, no one wanted to buy any bulk packs?

They are stoners. They'll buy and smoke sticks and stems if that'll get em high.

How about melanin?

I am astounded that prostitution isnt legal. 30 years ago back in HS I predicted that, as an extension of the womens liberation movement and civil rights, it would be legalized shortly.