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Posted By: luvrifles Vertigo - 10/06/14
Any one else been through this? Started last week.Down to the floor totally helpless, everything spinning and to add to the joy emptied the contents of my stomach. On meclizine now to keep things from spinning. Had a CAT scan all was well there. Seeing a specialist next week. Hope he can figure it out. Just wondering what causes this.
Posted By: Tarkio Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
Had a friend/client come down with sever vertigo a couple years ago. Big strapping guy, former college football player who's been through a lot.

He told me he thought he was dying and eventually wanted to die after dealing with the effects for a couple days.
Posted By: APDDSN0864 Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
Originally Posted by luvrifles
Any one else been through this? Started last week.Down to the floor totally helpless, everything spinning and to add to the joy emptied the contents of my stomach. On meclizine now to keep things from spinning. Had a CAT scan all was well there. Seeing a specialist next week. Hope he can figure it out. Just wondering what causes this.


Endolymphatic Hydrops is a good candidate;

Mayo Clinic LINK

Wiki LINK

Ed
Posted By: 257wby Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
I had vertigo after I got jarred pretty hard in an accident. You need to get those crystals back in their right places. There are directions online on the procedure. In fact there's an appliance you can get that goes on your head to help you make the right moves. One dsy it's just back to normal. Hang in there!
Posted By: Loggah Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
Ive had it for about 4 years,sometime it almost goes away ,then you have to lie down to work on a truck or something and then it acts up again,its really a PITA !!! mad mad
Posted By: Deerwhacker444 Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
I had it for about 5 months back in 2005..

Had every test done under the sun. Dr.s finally decided I had contracted a virus that either affected the little organ in the ear that has the fluid in it that acts as a gyroscope, or the virus affected the fluid itself.

They thought it would fix itself over time, which it did thankfully.

This will sound weird, but the only relief I got from the dizzy/spinning feeling was going for a ride on my motorcycle.

Something about the bouncing around on the bike, with cool air thru the helmet somehow cancelled out the spinning effect going on in my ear. Actually felt normal for the time I was out riding.

Hope it gets better, cause Vertigo is miserable...
Posted By: JGray Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
I haven't personally but my wife suffers from it. I believe what triggered hers was a fall down a flight of stairs a couple of years before we met. Hers comes and goes so isn't a daily thing for her to deal with, and episodes do seem to be getting further apart. I think the worst thing for her was a momentary blackout while driving which she fortunately was able to maintain control of her car. She's been in to see various doctors locally over the years but hasn't been able to get any relief when it does act up.
Posted By: Dave_in_WV Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
I suffered with it in 2011. It was diagnosed as benign vertigo. If a crystal gets on one of the tiny hail like sensors in your inner ear you get vertigo. Low doses of valium seems to help.
Posted By: rem141r Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
i get it every once in a while. not as bad as yours sounds though. but enough to make me stagger and feel nauseous. i've had it on & off for 15-20 years. went to an ENT guy and he cranked my head around trying to do something that didn't seem to work. i noticed that since i quit smoking cigars it is a lot better.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
Originally Posted by luvrifles
Down to the floor totally helpless, everything spinning and to add to the joy emptied the contents of my stomach.


Your just reliving your late teen years. wink


My dad had vertigo it's a bich. We'd be going down the road (He was driving) and all of the sudden he would lean way over to the center seat and keep driving, he said that when it hit him it would turn the whole world at a 45 degree angle so he would compensate so he wouldn't get in an accident.

It also did other things to him as well and was pretty miserable.

I sure hope you get rid of it quick, good luck.

Posted By: ChasR Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
Had Benign Paroxysmal Vertigo a few years ago. It was bad enough to send me to the ER where they figured it out, and did the Epley maneuver. Felt better in a few hours and haven't (Dear God, KNOCK ON WOOD) had a recurrence. Hope it's something simple like that.
Chas R.

http://www.webmd.com/brain/tc/benign-paroxysmal-positional-vertigo-bppv-topic-overview

http://vertigotreatment.org/treatment-for-vertigo/epley-maneuver/


Posted By: Scott F Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
First hit me in 1971 then went dormant for years. Now having 4 to 5 attacks a week lasting 4 or more hours. No meds or cure in sight.
Posted By: Tracks Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
I get temporary positional vertigo from time to time from , as I understand it, crystals forming in the liquid in the inner ear. Take medicine that is pretty much the same as the sea sick pills and it goes away in a couple of weeks.
The test for it is to sit down, lay back quickly and turn you head, if nothing happens get up and do it again turning your head the other way.
If the world goes crazy then it is the positional type
Posted By: luvrifles Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
Thanks for the replys. I will keep taking the meclizine prescribed and see what the ear,nose and throat doctor finds out. The ER doctor had me do the lay back and turn my head thing but the world was already spinning at that time. I am determined to get over this somehow.
Posted By: RockyRaab Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
I had it that bad a year ago. Could not walk without help, almost pitched myself out of chairs, in fact. My family doc sent me to a special clinic for vertigo (didn't even know we had one locally) I fully expected to hear the spiel about calcium crystals and have the Epley maneuver performed but the tests said that wasn't my problem. Instead, I apparently had a pinched nerve in my neck. The specialist did a chiropractic sort of adjustment, and "boink" the problem disappeared.
Posted By: crittergetter Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
I had 2 attacks of it in 2013,according to my doctor caused by 2 stokes.I MEAN TOTALLY HELPLESS,PUCKING MY GUTS OUT FOR ABOUT AN HOUR UNTIL THE MEDS KICKED IN.Praise the LORD,I have not had another.I have an older friend that has to take meds everyday for it.I WILL PRAY FOR YOU.
Posted By: Scott F Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
Originally Posted by luvrifles
Thanks for the replys. I will keep taking the meclizine prescribed and see what the ear,nose and throat doctor finds out. The ER doctor had me do the lay back and turn my head thing but the world was already spinning at that time. I am determined to get over this somehow.


Did they test your hearing?
Posted By: eyeball Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
I am getting ill just reading the first page of this thread.
Posted By: Scott F Re: Vertigo - 10/06/14
Who need booze or drugs? When I have an attack it is sit down, lay down, or fall down. A wild four to five hour ride for free.

Funny thing the VA rated me 10% for the tinnitus that come with it, nothing for the hearing loss, and 30% for the vertigo with staggering gate at the rate of once a month. I put in a claim for an increase based on an average of four to five attacks a week. They denied my claim because four to five attacks a week are less than one a month.

So at 4.5 attacks a week times 52 weeks equals 234 attacks a year. Divide by 12 months and I get 19.5 attacks a month. The VA must be using the new core math because they think 19.5 is not more than one. Think I should appeal?
Posted By: mark shubert Re: Vertigo - 10/07/14
They're Doctors - not mathematicians, Scott.
Appeal, and explain to them from the Good Book!
Posted By: Scott F Re: Vertigo - 10/07/14

It really made me laugh. I will not get the denile letter in hand until Monday. Then I will go to work and see if I can teach them a little math.
Posted By: las Re: Vertigo - 10/07/14
Originally Posted by luvrifles
Any one else been through this? Started last week.Down to the floor totally helpless, everything spinning and to add to the joy emptied the contents of my stomach. On meclizine now to keep things from spinning. Had a CAT scan all was well there. Seeing a specialist next week. Hope he can figure it out. Just wondering what causes this.


BTDT. After $500 in tests they said I was dizzy. smile

I was at my remote cabin- 50 miles from the boat landing and another 140 from Fairbanks when it hit. 2 days later I was well enough to navigate... It wasn't all that much fun.

Was so bad I could not sit on a chair and kept falling off. The floor kept trying to throw me off too...

In my case, it was this: (tho it could be a brain stem tumor, or several other things):

In our inner ears we have tiny hairs, to which are attached little carbonate (limestone) spicules, which help determine our sense of balance Some of mine broke loose and were just banging around in there....

They said it could take up to 6 months to go away, but it was only a couple weeks. And nothing like that first couple days...

Good luck.
Posted By: kid0917 Re: Vertigo - 10/07/14
same here.... the meclizine didn't do a thing for me... just took a little time. first time is scary because you don't know whats going on... after that, just a nuisance.
Posted By: vbshootinrange Re: Vertigo - 10/07/14
Wife had it several years back and the Dr's said it was in inner ear infection.
Now I get the same same thing once every cupple months. Mine usuall only lasts one day. Must have caught it from her.

Virgil B.
Posted By: luvrifles Re: Vertigo - 10/07/14
Originally Posted by Scott F
Originally Posted by luvrifles
Thanks for the replys. I will keep taking the meclizine prescribed and see what the ear,nose and throat doctor finds out. The ER doctor had me do the lay back and turn my head thing but the world was already spinning at that time. I am determined to get over this somehow.


Did they test your hearing?

Yes my hearing is ok
Posted By: hacklewrap01 Re: Vertigo - 10/07/14
Sometimes Meniere's disease-which is only one of the potential causes- shows up WITHOUT bad hearing loss. My wife has had it for 6 years now; bilaterally since last winter. If it's that, you don't get over it. You just get used to it, and it "might" go away sometime. It can become a new normal, though you're stuck with plenty of misery. The front line stuff- LOW SODIUM, including all sodium stuff preservatives, not just salt. MANGANESE supplement- not magnesium- can work small wonders, though docs here don't seem to get it, just in Europe. Avoiding bright a/o fluorescent light, crowds of people, too much TV, whatever stimuli seem to bother. Drugs in my wife's life include
valium to leave the house, triamterene daily, and the most unexpected thing we'd never have tried without desperation- little lemon drops laced with 10mg of THC. Yep, pot drops. One of the best tools of all, and I voted against it when it passed.
Those who say it has no medical value are wrong, period.
Good luck to you. I hope it will turn out to be different, in your case.
Posted By: Scott F Re: Vertigo - 10/07/14
Meniere's is why I asked if he had a hearing test. He did not answer, just said it was OK. But I more I find out about Meniere's the more I find they don't know. Otolaryngologists all have different decisive definitions of what is and what isn't. Two have said my hearing loss is classic Meniere's and two say it isn't anything like classic Meniere's. Some say it is not Meniere's without the rapid eye movement, others say that is not always the case. Same with ear pressure and the length of the attacks, if they last less than four hours it is not an attack. In my mind it you have to sit down to keep from falling over it is an attack. Biggest bag of worms I have experienced.
Posted By: hacklewrap01 Re: Vertigo - 10/08/14
Yeah, it manifests differently in almost everybody. Almost think it's hard to get a diagnosis because patients don't want to admit it, just like doctors don't. Ran into several people who went the whole route; wouldn't say or believe until Mayo, or whomever they couldn't argue with, anymore. But my Mrs. has a pretty good life, after years of learning about it, only about 1/3 of her time is spent struggling. It takes knowing your limitations and acceptance, to live your best with it.
Posted By: Scott F Re: Vertigo - 10/08/14
The doctors argue about what it is but in reality it makes no difference at all to me. It has changed my life and so far there has been no treatment that makes any noticeable difference. I have to walk to get somewhere or have my wife drive me, you do NOT want me driving. So, I make adjustments. If I start to feeling sorry for myself I go the the VA Hospital and just look around. I walk away feeling pretty lucky that this is all I have to deal with. I still have all my arms and legs, I can see and hear with my hearing aids, and even though some here might argue the point I still have my mind. wink
Posted By: Simoneaud Re: Vertigo - 10/08/14
ok I have never had it, I have some relatives who have had it before. BUT I had a tech here in August helping me install some software and he has it and during our install he had a attack.

he has a APP he downloaded on his ipad and he uses ear buds to play it, the app has sound adjustments, one thing I heard him say was " he has to set the gamma settings" so that both ears begin to hear the same type of humming noise, about 25 min of that and it goes away, I wish I knew the name of the APP - he swears by it - he's a very bright young man, lots of knowledge
Posted By: Scott F Re: Vertigo - 10/08/14
I look for it. Thanks.
Posted By: luvrifles Re: Vertigo - 10/08/14
Originally Posted by Scott F
Meniere's is why I asked if he had a hearing test. He did not answer, just said it was OK. But I more I find out about Meniere's the more I find they don't know. Otolaryngologists all have different decisive definitions of what is and what isn't. Two have said my hearing loss is classic Meniere's and two say it isn't anything like classic Meniere's. Some say it is not Meniere's without the rapid eye movement, others say that is not always the case. Same with ear pressure and the length of the attacks, if they last less than four hours it is not an attack. In my mind it you have to sit down to keep from falling over it is an attack. Biggest bag of worms I have experienced.

Scott, I am seeing an ear,nose and throat specialist on Monday. Hopefully get this all sorted out then. I will certainly post the results. I have a friend with Meniere's hope it isn't that.
Posted By: Scott F Re: Vertigo - 10/08/14
I hope you don't have Meniere's too. There is no nown cure for Meniere's. Lots of other thins can cause your problem that can be cured or at least treated.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Vertigo - 10/08/14
�Vertigo� Great movie...Kim Novak
Posted By: Borealis Bob Re: Vertigo - 10/09/14
As an audioprosthologist I often see such symptoms in patients; I immediately refer them to an ENT for correct diagnosis and treatment.

Meniere's is a possibility, but it often is accompanied by fluctuating hearing and nausea. It could also be labrynthitis which is an infection of the inner ear.

And yes, some of the otolythic crystals can get out of whack and run amok. A good ENT will quickly and accurately diagnose the problem. Sometimes it is as simple as a low-sodium diet.

Best of luck to you.....it is quite unsettling.
Posted By: luvrifles Re: Vertigo - 10/20/14
Saw an audialigist today. It was supposed to be a 2hr test. He figured it out in an hour. My right ear has suffered damage in the balance mechanism most likely due to a virus. The difference between balance of both ears caused the vertigo. The amazing human brain has compensated for the imbalance and the effects have pretty much gone away. I am so far back to normal. Thank you all for the replys. I am very relieved.
Posted By: rem141r Re: Vertigo - 10/21/14
good to hear that.
Posted By: Scott F Re: Vertigo - 10/21/14
That is great news!
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