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Posted By: RoninPhx the lowly .270 winchester - 10/21/14
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the .270 is either i think loved, or hated, but does attract a lot of grief for the caliber.
I finally had a chance to take a couple out today, fire restrictions removed, and see if the scopes were still on.
I was using a browning B.A.R. in 270 for the above, reloads with 130gr hornady jsp's in did in 2003.
I haven't shot this rifle in quite a few years.
It seems as if it does not have any problems.
Interresting to me, at least, is the idea that a 270 isn't to sensitive to weight differences in the bullets.
This rifle does have the B.O.S.S. system on it, and i had it set for 150 grains.
I don't think i need to adjust it.
If it just has enough to penetrate a squirrel.
Posted By: poboy Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/21/14
Do you want some popcorn while
we wait for the others?
Don't tell me the 'other three shots' are in those same holes!!
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/21/14
Originally Posted by poboy
Do you want some popcorn while
we wait for the others?

i'm hoping, the popcorn bin is filled.
had a friend email me this morning just killed sunday a bull elk at a little over 400yards with a 270 short magnum. I guess it did penetrate, one shot, bang flop, but that was because he rubbed holy water on the barnes bullet.
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/21/14
Originally Posted by RMulhern
Don't tell me the 'other three shots' are in those same holes!!

naw, i could of shot more, but it was in the same place it was last time i shot it. And i had another one, a ruger hawkeye in .270 that i am rapidly falling in love with. It shoots as good or better.
I can say one thing, i had some work done on a remington 350 rem mag model 660, and i was curious to see where it was going to hit.
Actually four inches high, so 16quarter clicks down, bingo.
Remind me to think a little about recoil when i mount a scope. It got to my eyebrows, another little bit and i would have been leaking blood.
Posted By: eyeball Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/21/14
the .270 is either i think loved, or hated, but does attract a lot of MEAT for the caliber.

I got a moose in BC once with one, Ron. That's a nice little two shot group for a BAR.
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/21/14
a deer died once, because of that rifle. early in the morning i was trying to sneak off from my son and son in law, walking up a dirt road through a canyon with heavy tree cover. Heard something like a stampede coming down the mountain to my right.
was a couple of full size muley's at full gallop. I had that browning slung on my left shoulder, and i am left handed. It is so much like a rem 1100 shotgun, it was like making a quail shot for me. I told the deer later he would have still been alive if he had slowed down a little bit.
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smile

oh and...

through the wing butts at 120 yards...

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#5 deer, .270 bang flop

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Posted By: eyeball Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/21/14
I think 270 bullets have a fetish for heart muscle after OConner went to Heaven and asked God to bless them years ago.
Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
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oh and...

through the wing butts at 120 yards...

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#5 deer, .270 bang flop

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If you're going to belittle yourself by hunting with a .270, you could at least put some nice wood on it! Beautiful gun, Tex
According to some of the Gurus, he must have died from fright because he thought you were pointing a REAL rifle at him....... If he'd only have known........... wink
Posted By: rem141r Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
the only problem with that gun is it doesn't have one of them wooden thingies under the barrel that you move back and forth to make it go bang again.
Posted By: specialK Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
I love my 270s. They work. And so does my 25-06s and 280 and 30-06
Posted By: eyeball Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
In the days when men were men, it was known as the unbelted magnum. Yeah, we've come a long way, baby. Well, not so much, maybe.
Originally Posted by RMulhern
Don't tell me the 'other three shots' are in those same holes!!


He would get smaller groups if he only shot once per target. laugh
"Heaviest" rifle I owned at the time, and it had to do.

It did, handsomely.

150 gr .277 Hornady Spire Point
58.5 IMR 4350

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Posted By: RoninPhx Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
the other one i was playing with was a ruger hawkeye lh bolt.
I had a 3x12 scope on it with a multiple dot reticule.
It was kind of fun to hit at 100, drop one dot hit at 200, drop another and hit at 300.
I think i am slowly getting magnumed out. I own them, don't dislike them, but not sure I see the need for them in the majority of cases.
The exception to that is long range shots on elk.
deer & bear from 30ft to 450yds for me. just what would have done without the 270 for the last 40 years?

270's i can remember owning ,i'm sure there were more.

rem 700's ,at least 10
ruger 77,6 i think
browning abolt,3
savage 110,4
marlin 2
mossberg 2
sako,1
winchester 70,3
nef,1
j p sauer,1
tikka t3 ,4
rem 760,1
rem 740,7400,model 4,3

then theres the 6.8 ar15 i built to use up the lightweight .277 bullets
A customer gave a NIB BAR in 270 Win as a retirement gift. He said I could trade it off for something I liked better.

It shot OK, but I already had a 270 Wby in a No. One so I traded the Browning for something else, don't recall what it was, but I HAD to have bettered myself. grin
Posted By: badger Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
"Heaviest" rifle I owned at the time, and it had to do.

It did, handsomely.

150 gr .277 Hornady Spire Point
58.5 IMR 4350

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Well, no wonder. Look how skinny that poor thing is. Could do with some meat on him laugh
Posted By: eyeball Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
"Heaviest" rifle I owned at the time, and it had to do.

It did, handsomely.

150 gr .277 Hornady Spire Point
58.5 IMR 4350

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Great picture there for sure, Cross.
Originally Posted by srwshooter
deer & bear from 30ft to 450yds for me. just what would have done without the 270 for the last 40 years?


Killed stuff just as dead with a 30-06? wink
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
I had a guy tell me a 30.06 was ballistically superior to the .270 yesterday. Okay. I didn't want to remind him what Mr. Garand wanted to chamber originally in the m1 garand.
Posted By: shrapnel Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14


One between they eyes...

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A good 30-06 is one of my all-time favorite rounds, but, if a .270 was all I had, I wouldn't be embarassed to admit it...... wink A deer couldn't tell you which one you shot him with, and they don't get LESS dead just because you used a .270........ smirk
Posted By: bea175 Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
The 270 has always been my number 1 choice in a Big Game Round since i have been hunting. I haven't been without a 270 since 1973 and will die owning one. Love the 270 Win
Posted By: Scott F Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
I remember back over 35 years ago reading a letter to the editor in an outdoor rag where there had been a feud over the 270. I reader wrote about the number of kills and the one shot DRT he had made over the years with his 270 mm.

I know it was a misprint but it still gets a chuckle out of me when I thing about being in the woods and hearing the sound of a 270 mm dropping over the ridge behind me.
Posted By: kenjs1 Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
130 Hornady sp + 54 grain Ramshot Hunter
or
130 Hornady sp + 54.5 grain IMR 4350

and

150 Hornady SP + 55.5 grain of H4831sc

CZ550 American
Posted By: bea175 Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
For almost 30 years i shot 57 gr of IMR 4350 and the Hornady 130 gr SP with CCI 250 Mag Primer in my Model 700 270 with zero pressure signs , but with the newer IMR 4350 have backed off to 54 gr and this gives me the same vel as before.
130gr Nosler Ballitic tips, Reloader 22. The load is written on my target above - work up, it is slightly above most books. That load clocks 3165fps out of the Ruger's 26" barrel.

It's very accurate, but rather explosive on deer. Might start loading the Accubond in the future. Or the 130 TTSX

Yeah, I've had good results with Accubonds at similar velocities.
I use the forgotten powder IMR-4064 with a 130 grain whatever i feel like using at the time.

Got it back in the 70's for Christmas from the wife,she bought it at a JC penny's.Been a while. grin
Posted By: Cruiser1 Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/22/14
Another boring day afield with the lowly .270 win; eliminating some south Alabama vermin with my Sako Model 75 Hunter Stainless shooting Barnes 130TTSX.

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put some 100grn bullets in a 270 and you'll has as good a varmit gun even built.
Posted By: TOPCATHR Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/23/14
Plainsman 456 I also use 4064 130 grain, pet load 49.5 grains
Posted By: eyeball Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/23/14
Originally Posted by srwshooter
put some 100grn bullets in a 270 and you'll has as good a varmit gun even built.


Over penetrates
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Posted By: mudhen Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/23/14
I have had as many as five .270s at one time, but am down to two right now. Two of the grandkids each have one and my hunting buddy in Colorado has the other. For years, I used the 130-grain Partitions for everything but I have been shooting ABs for the last several years. Still kills everything that I can hit with it. My pre-64 Model 70 Fwt with a Dale Goens pattern stock will be the last long gun that I let go of--probably when I die.
I have a 270 BAR that my Dad gave my Mom in 1970. If I told you how well this rifle shoots everyone here would call me a liar. Been setting in the safe since my Dad passed away. I plan to shot it every year just don't seem to make it happen. Hasbeen
Posted By: shrapnel Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/23/14


130 grain combined technology meets antelope heart at about 3200 fps...

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That might work shrap. Down to 3 .270s right now, may have to go to the toystore.
Posted By: shrapnel Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/23/14


I had no use for a 270 until I got one, now I don't even take out the 25-06...
It always amazes me that a 6.5mm is a real killer. The 7mm is a real killer. But the 6.8mm is a failure. Hummmm.
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/23/14
Originally Posted by hasbeen1945
I have a 270 BAR that my Dad gave my Mom in 1970. If I told you how well this rifle shoots everyone here would call me a liar. Been setting in the safe since my Dad passed away. I plan to shot it every year just don't seem to make it happen. Hasbeen

My BAR is about the same. The only thing i had against it was when purchased it had a muzzle break on it. I had never shot it other than at the range with big muffs on. First time i shot it at a deer I thought my ears had broken. I contacted browning and got a steel replacement to screw on it to replace the brake which i haven't used since.
But the gun has always been dead butt accurate, but it isn't a lightweight to pack around. For me tho, it is like a 1100 shotgun, which i have fired many rounds through so that helps.
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/23/14
Originally Posted by derby_dude
It always amazes me that a 6.5mm is a real killer. The 7mm is a real killer. But the 6.8mm is a failure. Hummmm.


I was thinking of that just the other day, just like a .280 is a superior caliber.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/23/14
There's not a lot of jobs I couldn't get done with a .270. I consider it one of the best choices for the ubiquitous "All Around Rifle" for North America. If I lost everything, a .270 or a .260 Rem would be one of the very first things I picked up.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/23/14
Originally Posted by derby_dude
It always amazes me that a 6.5mm is a real killer. The 7mm is a real killer. But the 6.8mm is a failure. Hummmm.
The problems with the .270 came from before WW II on into the late '60's & early '70's when people made 50 yard shots with 130 grain bullets an those cup and core bullets blew up. It's amazing how those early issues are still talked about and associated with the .270.

Gimme a .270 with a 130 grain TSX and I'll take on anything in North America with confidence.
Originally Posted by TOPCATHR
Plainsman 456 I also use 4064 130 grain, pet load 49.5 grains


IIRC, Jack O'Connor once wrote about how he fired a lot of rounds trying to find the single most accurate load with a 130-grain bullet in a .270. He said he could never beat 49 to 49.5 grains of 4064 for accuracy.

While he used war-surplus 4831 for his hunting loads, probably because of economics and velocity, 4064 was the most accurate.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: the lowly .270 winchester - 10/23/14
And to be honest, in my observations the 130 vs 150 grain is just like the .30-30 debate of 150 vs. 170 grain. I've never seen any difference in performance on actual game.

Originally Posted by GunGeek
. . . The problems with the .270 came from before WW II on into the late '60's & early '70's when people made 50 yard shots with 130 grain bullets an those cup and core bullets blew up. It's amazing how those early issues are still talked about and associated with the .270. . . .


They should have used a Remington Core Lokt bullet wink

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