Cruz and Palin have about as much chance as being the nominees as NWA has of being smarter than a 5th grader.

omg. a non-polictal comment could exist in the post-moderna era?

a non-political comment?

please get real.

Oh, Yeah????

Well [non political comments only]!

FC

Woohoo!!!

Cruz for sure now!

I knew that post would either make Pat write a thank you here or text me saying I'm going to frikking kill you.

And I love my Texas friends.

It really does pain me to unload this reality check on the hero worshipers.

The way I see it is I'm helping them before it's too late.

Please, just be quiet now before you lock pick something and sentence us to Hillary as POTUS and Elizabeth Warren as VP.

Your strategy favors the Dems, not mine.

The DEMS loves the GOP guy who votes for Donald Duck.

They have you right where they put you.

You haven't a clue as to my strategy. You, however, have a habit of "lock picking" losers on the political front and condemning us to the worst possible option. McCain, Romney, Cuccinelli, to name just three very recent ones.

Yes, we did vote for the same folks.

I haven't a clue, eh sport?

And so that there is no misunderstanding, I'll do all I can to get folks to vote for MY one of the only two viable candidates.

Were you striving to get folks to vote for Donald Duck or the only candidate capable of beating Obama?

Irrelevant, as I didn't "lock pick" wins. You did. Please be quiet before you afflict us all with your latest "lock pick" to insure victory for the socialists.

Hillary's only chance was running against Romney...she's done.

Get punched in the nuts by a 5th grader today, or you just hate all 5th graders in general?

You forget there's another Bush out there, and no party can f'k up a gimme like the Rs. It's almost like they want to (hmmm... and when they do, .gov is ever expanding, giving them job security and options).

He got done Wong.

You must not have been able to understand my earlier post. Read it again. You don't decide relevance.

Yeah, I can and I did. You continually jinx political candidates and insure victory for socialists. Please be quiet on the 2016 runs. The Ds don't need your help.

The converse of that statement is true, as well!

You might be wrong this time Bob, Walter just might gradyouate 4th grade this year.

Since I can't reference either party without it having a political content, I can only assume you're being clever and wish you a nice day.
Did I win anything?

I admit I appreciate and am humbled by the omnipotence you bestow upon me but I'd like to hear more about how your peeps are going to get Donald Duck elected.

By the way, I know it's 2 years early but who is your Donald Duck this go around? Can't be who you voted for last election.

I agree, but either would win easily. A RINO won't.

Pat...love Cruz but he can't even get a national ground game going with any PAC committee. WTF?

So, let's all get back to reality.

Didn't I just agree with you? The fact that Wall Street and a few rich guys will destroy all of the good candidates has nothing to do with whether they would win the general. I don't care how much money an ass has, it still stinks.

I haven't chosen and won't for a good while. Having you choose one is the kiss of death of that candidate and a victory for socialism. Please be quiet.

We're looking at the same problem from different angles. The good guys get no money and the bad guys get no vote.

Ya'll do know that you need a schitload of folks who want to contribute a schitload of money to be president, right?

But,I'm cool with learning how how all the smart men and women on the 24H are going to get past the reality.

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Who have I chosen? Do you really feel you're making some point that I voted for Romney and he didn't win...much like you?

If you want to debate, I'm cool with that. In the meanwhile, quit trying to equate football fun with politics.

Sure. But "buying" the nomination hasn't worked out. Nobody can convince me that most of the Republican candidates in 2012, except Romney and Huntsman, would not have won. Even Paul. (and you know I ain't pimping him.)

Reality hits when it hits,Pat.

Right? How'd '08 and '12 go for you?

Don't bring up reality. You'll confuse him.

50/50 huh?

So much for non-political comments? Ready for the girls?

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The exact same way as it did for you.2016 will be no different.

Try to understand the money it takes to make it work.

Romney bowed out today.

Well said. Scary the GOP cant figure that out, or did they?

YES!

I understand. His share goes to Bush. His campaign will spend more money than any loser in history.


Yay.

I doubt it ended the same for the Lt. He wasn't out 5-figures (plus?) and wearing egg on his face.

It may be the same in '16, because the Rs haven't shown a desire to actually win the WH, and you can't resist jinxing them.

Well DUH!

Money is crap to me. Just GTF out of my life. (Gov.)

Exactly, and exactly what McLame, Romney, Cuccinelli, and the other losers Bob has backed can't figure out.

Sorry isaac, but the thread is tainted.

I'll take the brunette in the third pick, the blonde in the forth, and the ass in the next to last for a long weekend, Alex.

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I think so, with the addition of Christie and the extra benefit of some dynamic VP candidate, depending upon the voids needed to be fulfilled.

Some mix of Bush, Christie, Walker blah, blah is where I feel the money train is headed.

The reality forces me there Pat. Us guys on our special web site can talk about the impossible but I'm moving forward under the pretense of focusing on what's realistically right in front of my face rather than HS fantasies.

I think that black olives are better than green olives.

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And the exact same nominees you voted for.

Look, if you want to try to convince folks they have a chance if they vote for Donald Duck, I'll let others call you the dumbass, rather than me.

In the meanwhile, if you choose to ignore the fact we will vote for one of two candidates in 2016, I'll still let others call you the dumbass.

It's not important to me that I be the first of a great many to say so.

Have you ever looked at Cruz's "impossible" campaign against Dave Dewhurst?

#1,#2 and #4 to go,please.

MOG/Elk...another thread gents, ok?

Sarah Palin for President all the way

No, their comments are as valid as yours on this. Hell, perhaps more so.

I'm nowhere near done. Hope Isaac doesn't mind. This is as non political as I get.

sorry. I was posting the last one while you typed that. I'll move on. Carry on with your political conversation.

#1 for the win, please.

Your posts add value. Please, continue.

As an aside, might you consider contributing to Gus and okok threads? They need your sage input in the worst ways.

Dammit Bob,I was just getting interested in this thread.Don't ruin it.

Gives new meaning to the statement thata lawyer could ruin a wet dream.

LMAO!

She can even make sandwiches.

I respect the opinions of both Isaac and LtPowell. It's Isaac's thread and I won't drag it off track if he don't want me to (I thought it was hijacked with the first political post.) Apologies to Isaac once again.

What we want and what we will get are as usual to vastly different things. I am relieved we will not get Romney and I pray we don't get Bush and a am convinced this country will never elect a Bush III. Walker or Cruz look like they may be the best we could end up with but I doubt either will make it.

The whole thing scares the hell out of me.

Everybody has a flaw. Her camel toe is off to one side. miles

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Thank you but I was only trying to focus on the conversation. I was simply trying to make a kind request. I'd never try to tell you or another what to do or how to do it.

I apologize to you if I came across that way.

Plus,your pics gave me a woodie!!!!

No harm done. Prayers sent for the woodie.

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Are they more valid than yours?

Keep pushing, boy.

Dude... You never pray for another man's woodie!!!!
What are you???? New???

Then post more pics and he (Isaac) will explode.

Bob, how can we talk politics without being political?

I'd still like to know what Isaac has against 5th graders.

No one mentioned and party affiliation with Cruz or Palin.

Non political palin post. Don't tell me I'm off topic with this one.

http://www.adameve.com/adult-dvds/p...sp-hustlers-nailin-palin-pack-93073.aspx

Hay! I am the smartest 5th grader on this fire!

Back to your statement....Give Palin a chance to prove herself guys! She can't be as stupid as she appeared this week when she forgot to turn on her teleprompter. Right?

Remember that 2 negatives do make a positive so Cruz/Palin= a winning team!


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ng-is-only-partly-to-blame-10002942.html

MOOOOOOGGGGGGG!

Now THAT's funny!

Walt's always funny.

Youre too stupid to know what stupid is. Study this

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZSigyG-BZU

Come on eyeball...Palin is of your own making and now you are forced to live with her, and who knows....She could be presidential or vice-presidential. Well, maybe not but lets encourage her all that we can!


I will let you know about that hunting spot in 2 weeks. I want to make sure the check clears first.

Nice stock.. Ever think about some polish so she shines a bit?

Sorry Bob. I got carried away. I had thought nwa had improved his lot in life by sucking off a glock.

Carry on.

It don't need polish.

I am like you and want Christia, Giulliani, or McCain in. Heck, I am on board with you and supporting Hillary Clinton if she ever changes her voter registration to Republican since she would be a front runner for GOP nominee. Would be quite a wild thing to see her as a keynote speaker at Friends of the NRA rallies if she ever did that one little thing.

5th graders like shiney chitt. Some are enamored with afro-sheen.

Where's the pictures of your firearms walt?

Yeah, they are.

So Bob, seems Cruz doesn't represent your values. Who does?

Would it be considered political if I called that .270 gay...?

Hell no!
When they start puting rifling in the barrels of 270's, they can consider starting being considered as rifles. Until then 270's are a small caliber slug. YMMV

No.

If you called it .270 obama,then it would be political.

Bob would love Cruz to be the man. He just doesn't believe it can happen. That's where he's wrong.
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Ted Cruz wins Republican runoff for Texas Senate seat

Former state solicitor general Ted Cruz, a tea party-aligned conservative once regarded as a long-shot candidate, has won the Republican runoff in Texas, where he will be the GOP nominee for the U.S. Senate in the November election. The Associated Press has called the race for Cruz over Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst. Cruz will be a heavy favorite over Democratic nominee Paul Sadler, who also won a runoff on Tuesday.
Holding his daughter Caroline, U.S. Senate candidate Ted Cruz and and his wife, Heidi, holding their daughter, Catherine, appear before a cheerful crowd after Cruz defeated Republican Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst in a runoff election for the Texas GOP�s Senate nomination. (AP Photo/Houston Chronicle, Johnny Hanson)

Cruz, an emerging conservative star whose father emigrated to the United States from Cuba, has drawn comparisons to Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and has been lauded by national conservative political pundits and groups for over a year. His victory is a major blow to the Republican establishment in Texas, which lined up squarely behind Dewhurst. It�s also a victory for the tea party and national conservatives who lined up behind Cruz even when a surprise win appeared unlikely.

In other elections held on Tuesday, state lawmaker Pete Gallego won a Democratic runoff in Texas�s 23rd District over former Rep. Ciro Rodriguez. Gallego will face freshman Republican Rep. Quico Canseco in a battleground race this November. Meanwhile, vulnerable Democratic Rep. John Barrow will have to wait until Aug. 21 to find out who his Republican opponent will be in Georgia�s 12th District, with the GOP primary headed to a runoff. Barrow is running on more conservative turf than in the past, due to redistricting.

Cruz�s win is a remarkable political feat and arguably the Senate upset of the cycle. In early 2011, when Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison announced her intention to retire, observers regarded Dewhurst as a virtual shoo-in to take her place in the upper chamber. Dewhurst is very well-known in Texas, enjoys immense personal wealth, and enlisted the help of Gov. Rick Perry�s top political hands. Perry endorsed Dewhurst during the campaign.

But in a multiple-candidate primary election that also included former Dallas mayor Tom Leppert on May 29, Dewhurst was unable to cross the crucial 50 percent threshold, managing just 45 percent of the vote to Cruz�s 34 percent.

Once the two-month overtime period was triggered, Cruz seized on new momentum. He outraised Dewhurst 3-1 in the first third of July and brought in an impressive cast of national conservative stars to stump with him during the closing weekend of the campaign. Sarah Palin and Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), who both endorsed Cruz�s candidacy, campaigned for him Friday in the Houston area.

While Dewhurst was extremely well-funded, a crucial national ally helped Cruz keep pace on the expensive Texas television airwaves. The anti-tax Club For Growth spent $5.5 million on independent expenditures to help the underdog pull off the upset. Despite their buy-in, Dewhurst and his allies still outspent Cruz and his allies on the air during the final week of the runoff campaign.

Cruz also performed well during early voting for the runoff, which took place last week. During the early voting period leading up to the May primary, it was Dewhurst who performed best.

The preparation paid off, considering Cruz�s overall margin of victory. With 48 percent of precincts reporting, he led Dewhurst 55 percent to 45 percent, according to the AP.

Texas Sen. John Cornyn, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, congratulated Cruz on his win and added that the candidate �and his team ran a remarkable race and this is a well-deserved and well-earned victory.�

With a full slate of competitive Senate primaries on tap in August, look for other insurgent Republicans like Sarah Steelman and Rep. Todd Akin in Missouri, Mark Neumann and Eric Hovde in Wisconsin, and Clark Durant in Michigan, to try to seize on Cruz�s momentum in the coming weeks.

Are you claiming to hava a 270 with a rifled barrel I'm intrigued. Surely it's a custom, tell me more. It looks nice but I'd assumed it was smooth bore. I'm currently gitting into bullet casting. If you buy the mold I'll pour you some rifled slugs for it. Let me know.

Christie is so tainted that pretty much anybody else has a better chance of winning the primary. Palin could beat him. Opposing PAC just has to run that pic of him hugging Obama, and the NRA will slaughter him.

With the current group, I'd guess Walker vs Jeb in the primary. Then Jeb for the loss versus almost any Dem.

the NRA will give him support and a venue just like they did Giulliani, Romney, McCain, and others.

Walker is a good candidate, but there are many more. Remember, he is only considered conservative in a very liberal part of the country. Our goal is to promote the most conservative candidate that can win. At this particular point, the most conservative candidate is the most electable. Unfortunately, the big money doesn't want anything to do with what the tax payers need.

PUS

If Conservatives would start early and abandon their personal favorites for Susana Martinez, we could jam Jeb Bush up the RNC's ass.

I agree with your assessment about Palin, that ship has sailed.

She has more "common sense" than most elected officials being not too removed from middle class values. But she tripped on the big stage and the left HATES middle class values, hard work, fair taxation etc.

but Cruz, I won't concede defeat on Cruz as of yet.

you're probably right on this matter

but if you are it only means we get a Dem or a Dem lite (Rino)

either way we lose, one is just at a slower pace than the other

sorry Tracks, reply intended to Bob, but read the first page and on my settings yours was the last post sir.

my bad

You don't deserve a GFY. Go [bleep] yourself. Seriously.

Lt. I cringe when I hear electable. To me that says there is a lack of belief in one's values. It's like the Pope preaching from the Torah to hedge his bet. We need to stand up and be counted.

As much as I like Cruz, I'm not sure he will draw the money. Popularity yes, money no. And he does have those weird eyes.....I don't think he can draw that middle ground of undecideds that bite for looks/popularity.

In my mind, Rubio is the one to watch, at least now. Can he increase his value to the big R.? If so, the money will follow.

Other than the worthless RINOs (Christie, etc.) the one I really despise is PaulRyan for what he did to the military on his last budget deal...since he really doesn't have a military constituency, he and Patty (Butch) Murray threw military and military retirees to the wolves. I still have an ass-whoopin in my pocket for him should we cross paths.

For the primary...

Cruz has been too much of a firebrand, imo. MSM can come up with too many out of context quotes and Palinize him and he'll lose the low information east coast Republicans.

Rubio is tainted with open borders and amnesty, so can't see him making it.

Christie I already talked about, Obama hug and then the NRA and the base hates him.

Gov. Martinez is a no-name outside of Arizona... Huge odds against.

Jindal comes across as more evangelical than I think the moderates will go for.

Palin and Trump won't make it out of the starting gate.

Walker... Dunno. Man keeps winning, and I can't think of too much that will hurt him nationally.

Jeb will have huge money and Fox pushing him, but his in your face amnesty stance is going to be a huge backlash and every radio talking head is going to spend months bashing him.

Ben Carson just doesn't have the street cred and his missteps on 2A and other things just won't be possible to overcome.

But things will change, and it's just my opinions. If Christie is in the final stretch, though, I'm gonna be close to giving up.

A picture is worth a thousand words...

Pat...I hear you and understand what you're attempting to address but the fact of the matter is Cruz hasn't even begun putting together a national ground game nor does he yet have the necessary PACS to fund them.

Texans love him, no doubt. I think he's fantastic. I think he needs the support of Florida, Ohio and Michigan. I don't see that yet.

And why is that? I did not say anything that wasn't 100% factual. Why does actual history upset you so much?

Don't have "a" .270,have that one and 3 others ,one being the Wby version.

It's a Featherweight "Custom High Grade" that I bought from cdnn sports.

Thanks for the offer to cast bullets for me,but,don't shoot cast bullets in my rifles. The load that the Featherweight likes is 60.0 grs H-4831SC,Fed 210 match with a 130 gr Swift A-Frame.

It has Talley Lightweights and a 4x Zeiss.

Cruz has what,6-8 months to put that all together before the primaries. That's IF he wants to be POTUS.

I would like to see Cruz as the next President, but I doubt that he can garner the votes. Too many liberals in the upper management of the party. miles

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Valid points but he needs to get it out there and front and center, rather than attempt to play catch up.

Would like to see Cruz also,I think he needs to wait and run in 2020 or 2024.

If he's playing "catch up" right now he's already too far behind. Think he needs to wait till 2020 or 2024 to run for POTUS.

[quote=curdog4570]If Conservatives would start early and abandon their personal favorites for Susana Martinez, we could jam Jeb Bush up the RNC's ass.[/quote

Cur, i figure there are a lot of R type folks who fear the idea a woman president and not vote, as they didnt like the idea of a mormon in the WH.

I think what you say would also apply to Cruz or Walker.

A recent poll showed only about 40 % of voters think Romney would have done a better job thab 0 has. About 60% feel 0 has done better than R would have.

It is almost unreal.

Living Translation
"The Lord has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts--so that their eyes cannot see, and their hearts cannot understand, and they cannot turn to me and have me heal them."

Funny thing about that. They think the US is in bad shape but they can't see Zero's part in that. They are truly blinded to reality. miles

"Gov. Martinez is a no-name outside of Arizona... Huge odds against."

Yeah, and Barack Hussein Obama was on everybody's mind in 2006. And the Governor of Arkansas was odds on favorite for next POTUS in 1990.

You summed up the weakness of the field pretty well.That's why it's imperative that rank and file conservatives coalesce early around an alternative to Bush, and I think Susana is a better choice than Walker.

BTW... She's N.M., not AZ.[ but Texas bred and born ]

Is this the thread where Bob tries to convince us of his conservative values while telling us no conservative has a chance in the general election so we should vote for the biggest rino in the primary? He is starting awful early...must truly be scared that a conservative might actually win this time.

Yeah,but we New Mexicans don't hold that against her.

My prediction is we will know, most likely, the winner on the 9th of November 2016.

For sure.

My prediction is in Sept 2016 we will know who the D nominee is and the R nominee is for the POTUS.

And there will be some here who will pissed cause their candidate did not win,and will vote third party or not vote at all.

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No schit, right?

That thinking is why we lose.

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Actually, not addressing it is why.

In a way, you're right. That "middle ground" however, is actually people like me that distrust Republican Politicians only slightly less than Democrats, not a bunch of idiots that vote on a persons appearance. Those are indigenous democrats and will never win an election for Republicans. The idea that Republicans can cause Democrats to cross over (without becoming Democrats) came from the same place that global warming did. The vast majority of people in this country, that don't vote, do so because they believe that all Politicians are the same and it doesn't matter. Change that, and you'll get your vote. Otherwise, it's up to chance and fraud.

That old Republican vs. Democrat way of describing the populace is useful only to the Media types. Liberal vs. Conservative is only a little better.

I'll venture that the majority is just like me and don't like being tagged as belonging to either Party.

Claiming to be a "Constitutionalist" tells me nothing about you considering all the 5-4 decisions emanating from the Supreme Court. THEY can't even agree on what the damn thing means where the rubber meets the road.

Big .gov. VS. Little .gov. is not an exact dividing line, but it would be more useful than anything in current use.

Evidently the RNC learned NOTHING about grassroots movements except that they are are scared schitless of them. They would MUCH rather have Dewhurst sitting in Ted Cruz's seat.

They absolutely can't allow something like the Cruz/Dewhurst deal happen in Presidential politics, when, in fact, it is just exactly what this country needs.

I would rather reap the benefits of gridlock than have Jeb Bush crowned with no competition and watch the Country used as a bargaining chip by Wall Street and the Bankers.