Greater Appalachia here.

Was thinking from a petri dish.

Yankeedom

Btw what a bullshit map...most of Texas is Greater Appalachia?

I have live in all those places so I would say mongrel.

150 years too late.

Yogurt.

Right about where the 1st T is on 'The Far West', there should be a small blue spot for Left Coast Annex - Sun Valley, ID, home of the CA liberals. It most certainly isn't part of The Far West.

Off the chart

Deep Deep South

El Norte, but I had no idea Amarillo and Lubbock were in Appalachia!

Well geographically I'm from the far west, but I lived for a little over a decade in what the map calls the Deep South, and I tend to identify with Southerners better than westerners. Yankeeedom people are weird, and left coast is just freaking nuts.

Greater Appalachia

You act and think like a Left Coaster or Yankee.

Well I think on my own, I'm neither conservative nor liberal. What's funny is, all the liberals I know call me a knuckle dragging conservative. As long as I have people like you calling me a liberal, and liberals calling me a conservative, I'll know that I'm in good shape. 'Cause you people all let others do the thinking for you. I can start any political conversation and tell you what you're going to say about it.

Import.

Your clairvoyance and authority is well noted here at The Campfire.

Well this thread deteriorated rather quickly.

Well I am still trying to figure out what it's purpose was ,with the mobility of population for the past 50 years or so it no longer applies. Some one said mongrel and I believe that is approaching how populations are to day. YMMV Cheers NC

Haters always gonna hate...they can't help themselves.

Does "from" mean born, previous places, current places???

Your culture stems from where you were raised, primarily up through mid-teens. it instills your commonly held speech patterns, and celebrations and observances.

Some, especially military brats are raised in a different location every 2-4 years and often don't form those 'cultural identities.

Often, people will adopt and/or substitute the cultural norms of their current location.

As has been mentioned, there is more and more blending across this great land of ours.

Unfortunately with that blending the country hasn't fared so well. Only takes one bad ingredient in a recipe to ruin it, aka the turd in the punch bowl.

Sure. Jeff0 was a moderate, too. lol....

Most liberals (like you) refuse to own up to what they are.

The "think for myself" line that you really like to use a lot is common among liberals too, and just as false as most things you believe.

And as far as this statement goes:

I can start any political conversation and tell you what you're going to say about it.

we should all take that as a compliment to our steadfast values and opinions.

American first; all the other garbage 2nd if at all.

Born and raised in the Spanish Caribbean well before it was that, when it was still part of the Deep South. Southern is my native language and heritage, y'all.

Lived in Yankeedom briefly, couldn't get away fast enough.

For the last 25 years have made my home in the Far West (the best place I've ever lived by a long, long, long shot) although for the last few years in a city with creeping inroads from the Left Coast, something which unfortunately plagues most larger cities in this area.

True.

My point was that regional (cultural) differences, while still present, are becoming muted.

Some of that can be attributed to chain restaurants and box stores.

Yes. See my 2nd sig line!

REDSKIN from the deep South and Greater Appalachia.

thumbs way up and I didn't even need an interpreter.

I'd venture I'm a pretty good blend of the deep south and the far west.

What ever that amounts to...

Greater Appalachia.

As I've long concluded about fence sitters, er ah moderates, the only reason to sit on a fence is if you like getting a fence post up your back side.

Y'all are soggy?

I'm from a conservative hunting, fishing and working culture.

Yankeedom, or land, or whatever the map refers to it as.




Travis

It's funny how many people don't want to use that map...

Laughin'.




Travis

Good prose. Content spot on.

Yip

I'd guess that my dad was a product of one of the great blenders in our society. Ie.-WWII...

He was born and raised deep south.

I was born a construction gypsy kid, but most of my early memories are deep south...

I'd agree that not all of the blending has benefited our nation. It let the camel of tolerance into our national tent.
Tolerance is a popular notion, but played out it leads to system dependence, and supports such calamities as gender equity.

Gender equity demands that any 90 lb school girl with a degree can be the principal of a high school that teaches a mix of kids including 200 lb.+ boys.
This leads to zero tolerance school policies, and eventually to those policies being enacted as legislation. What utter bullshit we have come to accept...

I do believe that national elections are important. I think that to fundamentally change America for the better though, we need to start with our school board elections and get rid of the 90 lb school girl principals...

Yeap , plenty of that goes on a round this area too. But if you trying to say that would be me you are sooo wrong.

Don't worry.

It will soon be changing to Greater Mexalachia.

If you ain't southern, you ain't sheit.

Sadly,,,, every state in the "Far West" has a few of those annex's.

The Appalachian Mountain range extends from Virginia down through that red area. That is why they call it Appalachia.

It starts well north of VA.

No doubt but I was orienting the red swath from east to west because someone was incredulous that Appalachia extended into Texas (far west of Virginia.)

I'm not a fence sitter on any issue I can think of. On just about any political issue I can show you were BOTH parties have it wrong.

Gotcha!

Figured you had some geographical context.

Right. That's what I said.

Conservative? Definitely not.
Fencer or moderate? You claim no.

What's left? (hint there)


Don't confuse "party" with philosophy - i.e. Rs are conservative.

Well there's he problem. You think if it's not one side or the other then you're just a fence sitter.

Look, if both sides are for big government, which side do you find yourself on?

I don't sit on any fences, I weigh each issue and make up my own mind. I really can't care any less if liberals or conservatives agree with me or not. In fact, I kinda worry if one of those two sides agree with me; makes me think I missed something.

I don't care about political sides, I care about what's right and what's wrong. I tend to find that on most issues BOTH sides have it wrong and have it that way purely for political expediency.

But I'm not wishy washy about any issue, I have a firm opinion and I can make my case.

Political lines cannot be drawn on a map anymore.

That is over.

It is a conservative vs liberal thing now. It could be your neighbor, or your co-worker. Or your sister, or even your wife that is your political opponent.

There are concentrations of them in all large cities, and those are the only places that matter, because it lets the electorate swing in the direction of them.

Based on the map "Yankeedom"

Mother's family came from Holland in 1657; father's family came for Ireland in 1847. All settled in the NY area.

far west, and happy to be here..

Our American neighbours can draw funny maps all they want, just leave us Canadians off of it please. A map like that is not helpful to any reasoned discussion about culture, it just draws lines between people.

Appalachia born, deep south raised, with some world travel and far north (pnw) thrown in for flavor.
What is the point?

lol....

Montana. Third generation.

W. Bill

Culture ?

I ain't got no damn culture


Mike

Texas was invented by a Mr Crockett , he was from the mountains of Tennessee.


Mike

Sorry, should have said Left coast--

AMERICAN first. Greater Appalachia for the maps use. Family has been here, from Germany, since the 1760's. Guess I have roots.

Greater Appalachia, but I have traveled all over the east and a little in the west.

I agree with the greater appalachia (culture) going down into Texas. They seem to be good ol country folks minus our $hitty accent.

Greater Appalachia.

What culture am I from?

Farm. Rural.


It's not on that map.

My kids were all raised in Texas but sound a lot like the folks on the 6 o'clock news.

Texas.

Kind of fun to read this and think about it. I have lived in all the listed parts of the country and bin in all fifty states. I was born in Little Falls, NY. Moved to Dayton, OH when I was two and lived there for ten years to the day. Moved to Ballwin, MO when I was twelve and left there when I joined the Navy but I never found a place my heart would call home until I moved West.

Born in one part of Greater Appalachia, raised in another, and grateful for it.

69 years far west. 5th gen northern Calif. Ed

lol I didn't say you were a liberal. I said you act and think like a left coaster or Yankee. If you want a label instead of those I'd use "idiot" to describe you. IIRC you couldn't wait to condemn Zimmerman. You think O's right on "Net Neutrality", etc.

A lot of people are ashamed of where they come from due to the collective behavior of a majority of the people now living there. These are the ones that usually attack or mealy-mouth something like this.

I'll say this to the audience in general, it has nothing to do with you Clark. This is just one dude's way of dividing up the country by cultural norms of given areas. Maybe there's something to it, maybe there's not. IMO it's not completely inaccurate. I'm not going to think about it long enough to determine whether I completely agree with it.

Lithuanian / German ancestry so Eastern European stock.
Parents emigrated as DP's to America and landed on the South side of Chicago in a neighborhood made up of similar people. Made a lot of friends with Irish, Italians, Poles and Slovaks besides.
I experienced the change of Chicago from old man Daley to the lesser Daley. There are many lessons to be learned there.
Now I am making my last stand in suburban Chicago and feeling a lot of kinship with that Indian who observed that the Government should put wheels on them so's to make it easier for them to be moved around. Got knows where my kids and grandkids will wind up. There doesn't seem to be much permanency where I'm at... And that sucks

Far West. Currently right below the "s" in the word "includes" but I've lived in Idaho and central Washington too.

Born in the middle of the midlands, then to the northern midlands, then to far west.

I'm a damn Yankee and I'd not trade where I live for a lot of that map.

I can use a link to this map that is being referred to. That little icon is not working for me . Thanks
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714 Babe Ruth or Joe Friday's badge number

texican

I don't remember where I got it. The map is well represented online. Maybe this will work for you.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...f-the-11-american-nations-do-you-live-in

The far west

As will any such thread. And to use "culture" when stereotypical labels of derision for faux elevation of self are the intent, demonstrates a total lack of culture.Same ol, same ol, hate at the Campfire. It's exactly the conundrum that costs us elections and will cost us all America.

I will admit to being totally naive of such abject foolishness before joining the campfire. Now I see, liberals hate (so-called)conservatives and conservatives hate everyone. Hard to get more defeatist than that.

Looks like you are doing some stereotyping yourself.

The very first report turned out to be wrong on Zimmerman. With that information I thought he was in a lot of trouble. When all the information came out, I never condemned Zimmeran as guilty, I just said he was an idiot. And I think that assessment has been borne out. Apparently you think he's a great guy, that makes you an idiot.

On net neutrality I said I was for it despite Obama's support. I don't give a rats azz about Obama and where he stands on anything, but net neutrality is the right thing, period. You're just too filled with hate to accurately assess the situation. Anyone who is against net neutrality either doesn't understand the issue, doesn't think for themselves, or is just a hate monger. With you, I'd say it's all three. You are a pukking republican drone who has never had an original thought in his life.

C'mon man..... Ethan never said that Zimmerman is a great guy.

I prefer native born American!

Far West

Yankeedom and DAMN proud of it. You haven't lived till you live in the "Live Free or Die " state.

Ray
Can you be more clear on yO Spectrum as an American.. I got it .. But the Donkeys think in terms of Classes of Americans.. You lost them with yO Boldness.. That's why they have no comment on you Distinction...

Those that don't think at least part of Texas doesn't belong in Appalachia have never been to deep east Texas. powdr

See that tiny point of blue extending into SE Texas? "New France"

EthanEdwards: Interesting map/interpretation of things, you have posted for us.
For the past 17 years I have chosen to live in and enjoy the culture of Montana.
For some time prior to that I would visit and enjoy Montana several times a year.
Thankfully I will live out my years here and I relish that (the Montana country culture).
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

6th generation Texan

Redneck

Having spent years driving in 48 states and part of Canada I have found that the person I am looking at is who he is. I have met many good folks everywhere and some real squirrels also. The worst have been the ones who make a big deal of the different regions.

East of the divide in Colorado ain't the "Far West"

Dis nou maal verby. Ek's 'n buitelander van Clute, Texas af. Maar ek glo nie dis vrot "map" nie. (Okay, I'm Americo-African and this map is plain crazy.) Deep South and Southwest do NOT describe Texas!!!!

I'm glad you like where you are. I couldn't put up with that much cold. Living around folks who think like you do counts for a lot though. California would be great if it weren't for the crazes living out there.

Interesting how they distinguish by county and how they split Az with Maricopa county in Mexico and Pinal in the West... that's some funny chit when you consider Mesa vs Apache jt... those that know, know what I mean.

My family is old time arizonian, came west from SC, GA, OK, KS, MO, TX, COL, NM, CA.

Kent

That's a long winded way of explaining you're an Obama Ball Licker.



Travis

I am a Negro.

It's funny that somebody somewhere drew a map and labeled it with what he perceived as culture differences that people have. If I understand, this is where the majority of the people in these areas, ancestors came from.

Who was the person(s) that collected this data? What were their qualifications for doing this kind of research? Did they do a thorough search of where the people came from that lived in these areas? What were the questions they asked? (Surveys can say what you want them to, by the questions asked) What portion of the population did they question? The questions could go on, and on, and on!

This is just someones opinion, best guess, what they read somewhere, etc...

It really doesnt mean a thing!

Well beings that my father's family came from Hessian Soldiers that camped at Trenton and My mothers family were Irish immigrants that were raised in an orphan home in Philly that then moved to live on an ex slave farm in North Carolina and I now live in Wyoming. I would saw I am an AMERICAN!!!!!

Mennonite with ancestors traced through the Dakotas, Russia, Germany, and the Netherlands. I have a family history book that traces my lineage to the 1400's in Holland. Apparently there is a town there named after our family.

Also found out that my Great Grandfather's brother patented a version of four wheel drive in Canada and the US that was ripped off as the basis for modern front wheel drive. He got nothing for it as they got around his patent.

SS

no Alaska on the map,guess we don't do the class warfare/put people into groups ......but I do ........ I'd say the folks that showed up in the last 10-15 years are of the "foodstamp sourdough" culture.

lolol You're one of the most Lemming-like clowns that frequents this page. You sided up against Zimmerman. You're siding with Obama. Bottom-line.

Left Coast includes Juneau.



Travis

I think that Western New York is far more "midlands" in its orientation than it is "Yankee."

I'll agree with that

I refuse to believe Montanans were derived from
spotted-assed apes, as per the map. I just don't.

As true as that may be, you are either geographically challenged or don't know where atv is at.


There, I said it.

No derivation required for some dem fellers!

















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