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Liar, liar, pantsuit on fire: Hillary Clinton still insists she didn’t tell the grieving families of the Benghazi victims that an anti-Islam video was to blame.

Yet family members say she said just that, three days after the attack, at the Sept. 14, 2012, ceremony at Andrews Air Force Base.


http://nypost.com/2015/12/09/hillary-clintons-most-repugnant-lie/
These poor family members would be great in a campaign video just prior to the election next November!
I think the even more repugnant lie is that she had no knowledge of the attack and the available rescue team early on.
I think everything about her is repugnant.

No wonder BillyBob has needed to get so much on the side.

MM
NO, I think it was "I love you Bill" when they got married.
You'd have to know how to split a hair and sand it down, with her decades of lies.
If the right guy gets the republican nomination I expect the anti Hillary adds will make Willie Horton pale in comparison no pun intended. God help us if they put up another play nice milksop.
Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
These poor family members would be great in a campaign video just prior to the election next November!
The biggest lies belong to Trump. Whopper of the Year, according to Fact Check:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/the-king-of-whoppers-donald-trump/

Of course, the most obvious lie is that the rag known as the New York Pose bears any resemblance to a credible publication. Or maybe an even most obvious lie is that you guys have half a brain combined.
Originally Posted by Paddler
The biggest lies belong to Trump.


No surprise about campaigns. That's pretty much status quo. What goes on while in administration employ, that's a wholly different matter, but we shouldn't expect you to get that I suppose.
Originally Posted by Pashooter
If the right guy gets the republican nomination I expect the anti Hillary adds will make Willie Horton pale in comparison no pun intended. God help us if they put up another play nice milksop.


Not likely. Trump doesn't play nice.
Originally Posted by Paddler
The biggest lies belong to Trump. Whopper of the Year, according to Fact Check:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/the-king-of-whoppers-donald-trump/

Of course, the most obvious lie is that the rag known as the New York Pose bears any resemblance to a credible publication. Or maybe an even most obvious lie is that you guys have half a brain combined.


There's a difference between exaggerating or embellishing the truth as opposed to an outright lie...even us guys with half a brain can figure that out...Hillary WAS and IS the biggest lier in the race....IMHO, supporting a candidate that couldn't even competently run the state department, puts that persons mental state somewhere between retarded or just plain stupid...

One of my biggest pet peeves is people who have sworn to uphold & defend the constitution of the United States then turn around & immediately try to pass legislation to weaken it...it ought to be grounds for removal from office & a lifetime ban from seeking such...
hillary is a congenital lier. She is a psychopath. Just like her husband.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
hillary is a congenital lier. She is a psychopath. Just like her husband.


I believe she is suffering from dementia as well and she has not recovered from the fall of a few years ago.
Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
These poor family members would be great in a campaign video just prior to the election next November!


there are a billion women, Ho Mo's, LesBos, Ghetto Bangers etc, that not an ounce of that would matter to them... they don't care about anything but themselves... its "all about them".. and not what they can do for their country, but what their country is gonna do for them.... and with that attitude, Hillary is their candidate... that is what she preaches and that is all they care about...
Originally Posted by Paddler
The biggest lies belong to Trump. Whopper of the Year, according to Fact Check:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/the-king-of-whoppers-donald-trump/

Of course, the most obvious lie is that the rag known as the New York Pose bears any resemblance to a credible publication. Or maybe an even most obvious lie is that you guys have half a brain combined.


are you still wasting this nations air by being alive???

I thought you were going to visit the Grand Canyon and do a Swan Dive to the bottom of the canyon....

Just FO&D, would ya...
Should the unthinkable happen, does that allow us to call her the "First Skank"? Or does someone else have a more appropriate title?.
Paul B.
Head C&nt in Charge.
Originally Posted by PJGunner
Should the unthinkable happen, does that allow us to call her the "First Skank"? Or does someone else have a more appropriate title?.
Paul B.


No, she would be COTUS, 1st skank belongs to her aide, Huma Abedin who is married to 1st Perv Anthony Weiner.
The Pantsuit should be residing in a federal pen.. The sooner, the better...

Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by Paddler
The biggest lies belong to Trump. Whopper of the Year, according to Fact Check:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/the-king-of-whoppers-donald-trump/

Of course, the most obvious lie is that the rag known as the New York Pose bears any resemblance to a credible publication. Or maybe an even most obvious lie is that you guys have half a brain combined.


are you still wasting this nations air by being alive???

I thought you were going to visit the Grand Canyon and do a Swan Dive to the bottom of the canyon....

Just FO&D, would ya...


Still here, SF, and by that I mean...well, you know what I mean. Trump gets a 76% False or Mostly False rating from Politifact. In other words, 3/4 of what he says is complete BS. Hillary is down at 28%, near the bottom with the other Democrats. Notably, Bush is the only Republican close, at 32%. Guess the truth doesn't sell well in Republican voter circles. Like here.
Hillary's entire agenda and political philosophy is a lie so its' hard to tell when she does tell the truth. She has no credibility. I'm not going to depend some agency like Fact Checker to tell me who to trust. smirk

If Trump is telling tall tales, at least he didn't hold public office at the time. But you're not smart enough to make those distinctions.

I can't consider any public official who accepted money (millions) for influence peddling while holding the office of Secretary of State as "honest". She should be indicted instead of being a contender for the presidency. But this country is so warped today I doubt that will happen.

She is a power hungry,washed up leftover from the 60's.lies habitually,and if she is the best that the Democratic Party can offer as a presidential candidate we are in worse shape than I thought.

You seem to revel in being an overeducated, pompous ass,and frankly, considering your level of education and affluence,the depths of your stupidity are hard to fathom. You depend on Fact Checker to help you conclude who's lying? Not smart enough to make these decisions for your self? Hilarious.




Originally Posted by BobinNH
Hillary's entire agenda and political philosophy is a lie so its' hard to tell when she does tell the truth. She has no credibility. I'm not going to depend some agency like Fact Checker to tell me who to trust. smirk

If Trump is telling tall tales, at least he didn't hold public office at the time. But you're not smart enough to make those distinctions.

I can't consider any public official who accepted money (millions) for influence peddling while holding the office of Secretary of State as "honest". She should be indicted instead of being a contender for the presidency. But this country is so warped today I doubt that will happen.

She is a power hungry,washed up leftover from the 60's.lies habitually,and if she is the best that the Democratic Party can offer as a presidential candidate we are in worse shape than I thought.

You seem to revel in being an overeducated, pompous ass,and frankly, considering your level of education and affluence,the depths of your stupidity are hard to fathom. You depend on Fact Checker to help you conclude who's lying? Not smart enough to make these decisions for your self? Hilarious.


Hi Bobby,

Sucks to be you. Hate to tell you this, but Hillary is our next President. Trump's an ass, Carson is dropping like a stone, Cruz is reviled by everybody but the far right lunatic fringe, Rubio isn't ready for prime time, and Bush is, well, Bush. Get used to it.

I'm not overeducated, there's no such thing. I did go to doctor school and learned a bunch of stuff, and things have worked out very well. That's because I live in the real world and make good decisions. You'd be wise to follow my lead, you'd be happier all around. I know you won't take my advice, though, it's pearls before swine.
Paddler, trust me...it doesn't suck to be me. wink

I do just fine and don;t take a dime from insurance companies to do it.

You may be right about the election. I don't make those predictions anymore because after watching this country head into the toilet at the hands of the "leaders" you support,nothing surprises me anymore. I can't look at the track record of the boobs you support and say they have done a good job.

And it's getting worse. Too many examples to cite.


Only time will tell on the election though, right?If she's elected, you can count on a continual slide into oblivion. She and that crook she's married to will amass more money from foreign governments,and continue to lie about it while they use the office as a cesspool of corruption.

I think you'd like that. You seem to condone that behavior on her part, or choose not to talk about it. Wonder why?

When are you gonna grow up and do some real hunting,anyway?
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Paddler, trust me...it doesn't suck to be me. wink

I do just fine and don;t take a dime from insurance companies to do it.

You may be right about the election. I don't make those predictions anymore because after watching this country head into the toilet at the hands of the "leaders" you support,nothing surprises me anymore. I can't look at the track record of the boobs you support and say they have done a good job.

And it's getting worse. Too many examples to cite.


Only time will tell on the election though, right?If she's elected, you can count on a continual slide into oblivion. She and that crook she's married to will amass more money from foreign governments,and continue to lie about it while they use the office as a cesspool of corruption.

I think you'd like that. You seem to condone that behavior on her part, or choose not to talk about it. Wonder why?

When are you gonna grow up and do some real hunting,anyway?


Hi Bobby,

You ask why I support Democrats? Simply because they're better than the hate-spewing Republicans in every way. Obama has rescued us from the worst recession since the Great Depression. His legacy will be incredible, in contrast to the Bush years and what would have happened if Romney had been elected.

I don't understand how anybody can support Trump or any other Republican. Here's an editorial from the real Post, the one in Washington:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...8-a8f4-11e5-bff5-905b92f5f94b_story.html

So, what do you consider "real" hunting, Bobby? Just curious.
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Paddler:

Your problem in supporting the Democratic Party (as currently comprised) is that it subscribes to a failed socio/economic/political philosophy that chronically fails to deliver what it promises. History is rife with examples. You cannot point to a single socialist country that is truly prosperous, is not upside down financially,and does not attempt in some fashion to tax or regulate its citizens into stifling oblivion.

They are all, by any objective standards, failures.

Take a look at China,most of Europe, Cuba, Venezuela...the list is endless.


The only nation that has prospered in the history of mankind, and created the level of wealth, prosperity and upward financial mobility unequaled by any society in the history of mankind is....right here. To the extent that ANY of this has been stifled, or moved us into second tier worldwide in any category, is because of the intervention of a central government, run by stooges who seek to punish success.



Ever wonder why so many really sick Arab leaders have ended up at Mass General Hospital when seriously ill? You're in the business....you tell me. A free enterprise system and capitalism, along with a unique form of governance (the Constitution)have made us the best, most prosperous and freest nation in the history of the planet. Most all Democratic platforms are designed to tear it all done, but many are not bright enough to understand that,

As to those hateful Republicans I think you better take a look at the thread started here pointing out that the USC gives the president wide latitude in excluding classes of people from immigrating here if he deems them a threat to the security of the nation. Jimmy Carter used it with regard to Iranians.

People like you who are emotional and irrational ignore what has been codified into law and scream at people accusing them of being racists, Islamophobes, and ignore what is codified as the "law of the land". Sort of inconvenient for you guys, I know but it is what it is. Nobody said maintaining our national security was going to be "fair" to citizens of other countries.

So what Trump said is not hateful, nor racist, but the discretion to make that call resides in the president and is codified in our laws.

Obama did not save us from anything except averting a financial disaster which had, at its roots, a failed Democratic agenda of forcing banks to give very bad loans to people who could not afford them.

Once again there's that Democratic intrusion into the private sector under the mistaken assumption that every American is "entitled" to a home. Guess what? You aren't entitled to anything....you earn it. Unless you're a Democrat who feels that everyone is entitled to everything.Anyway, that scheme began under Bill Clinton, your gal's husband. Look what happened and yet you think they are heroes. They are the ones responsible for bringing everything down....connect the dots.


Obamas stimulus packages did not nothing but shovel money to public sector unions and workers. It did the private sector no good, but the system is so screwed up by government intrusion that the Feds have been printing money for years now to shore up the stock market and Wall Street. You people have created a mess; a house of cards that will tumble eventually.

Of course bird hunting is real hunting. I feel the same way about you bird hunters who strut around with $40k shotguns, as I do about dry fly purists.....

I could go on....you're wasting my time.
Great post, Bob, & right on, too.

But, unfortunately, Paddler & all his ilk can rationalize away just about anything so it likely won't affect his thinking or his posts either.

MM
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Paddler:

Obama did not save us from anything except averting a financial disaster which had, at its roots, a failed Democratic agenda of forcing banks to give very bad loans to people who could not afford them.


The financial collapse was already averted by GWB by to the actions he took at the end of 2008. Tyrant Obama Bin Liar took advantage of the crisis to pay off his union cronies in the auto industry.
There's no way Obama's printing of money will not lead to hyperinflation. Look at history, the Weimar Republic printed money to pay of Germany's war reparations after WWI, and their Papiermark fell to 1/330 of the dollar, when the normal exchange rate was 4 to 1. I guess that doesn't work very well. Also, if you want to look at prosperous times for America, do I need to mention the Ronald Reagan years? Seems to me cutting taxes on business owners does grow the economy. We were seeing GDP growth in the 4-7% range and it didn't cost the government a dime. Matter of fact, after cutting taxes, the funds collected by the government went up 26%, simply because people had money in their pockets. Sorry, but deficit spending, tax hikes, and entitlement programs do nothing to strengthen this great country and that is what the Democrats rally behind. No thanks.
Most Democrats don't know anything about history. They govern in accord with political expedience.

They create a mess;and then implement a new "policy" to fix the mess they created in the first place. That's why the cycle never ends.

Unfortunately the Republican Party has fallen into lock step with them. No wonder Trump is doing so well,and both sides are scared stiff of him. Same with Cruz.
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Paddler:

Your problem in supporting the Democratic Party (as currently comprised) is that it subscribes to a failed socio/economic/political philosophy that chronically fails to deliver what it promises. History is rife with examples. You cannot point to a single socialist country that is truly prosperous, is not upside down financially,and does not attempt in some fashion to tax or regulate its citizens into stifling oblivion.

They are all, by any objective standards, failures.

Take a look at China,most of Europe, Cuba, Venezuela...the list is endless.


The only nation that has prospered in the history of mankind, and created the level of wealth, prosperity and upward financial mobility unequaled by any society in the history of mankind is....right here. To the extent that ANY of this has been stifled, or moved us into second tier worldwide in any category, is because of the intervention of a central government, run by stooges who seek to punish success.



Ever wonder why so many really sick Arab leaders have ended up at Mass General Hospital when seriously ill? You're in the business....you tell me. A free enterprise system and capitalism, along with a unique form of governance (the Constitution)have made us the best, most prosperous and freest nation in the history of the planet. Most all Democratic platforms are designed to tear it all done, but many are not bright enough to understand that,

As to those hateful Republicans I think you better take a look at the thread started here pointing out that the USC gives the president wide latitude in excluding classes of people from immigrating here if he deems them a threat to the security of the nation. Jimmy Carter used it with regard to Iranians.

People like you who are emotional and irrational ignore what has been codified into law and scream at people accusing them of being racists, Islamophobes, and ignore what is codified as the "law of the land". Sort of inconvenient for you guys, I know but it is what it is. Nobody said maintaining our national security was going to be "fair" to citizens of other countries.

So what Trump said is not hateful, nor racist, but the discretion to make that call resides in the president and is codified in our laws.

Obama did not save us from anything except averting a financial disaster which had, at its roots, a failed Democratic agenda of forcing banks to give very bad loans to people who could not afford them.

Once again there's that Democratic intrusion into the private sector under the mistaken assumption that every American is "entitled" to a home. Guess what? You aren't entitled to anything....you earn it. Unless you're a Democrat who feels that everyone is entitled to everything.Anyway, that scheme began under Bill Clinton, your gal's husband. Look what happened and yet you think they are heroes. They are the ones responsible for bringing everything down....connect the dots.


Obamas stimulus packages did not nothing but shovel money to public sector unions and workers. It did the private sector no good, but the system is so screwed up by government intrusion that the Feds have been printing money for years now to shore up the stock market and Wall Street. You people have created a mess; a house of cards that will tumble eventually.

Of course bird hunting is real hunting. I feel the same way about you bird hunters who strut around with $40k shotguns, as I do about dry fly purists.....

I could go on....you're wasting my time.


Ridiculous, Bobby. That you actually believe the crap you post is concerning. That's okay, I expected nothing less. Obama has accomplished many things, and we'd be farther along if the Republicans in Congress didn't have complete obstruction as their only goal. By almost any economic metric we are so much better off than before he took office. I know you and others here deny it, but it's the truth. The only reasons we're not even better off is Bush's legacy of two unfunded wars and our do nothing Congress.

So, is bird hunting any less real with a Piotti than with a Remington Express? If so, why? Is duck hunting any less real with a nice gun than a beater? I'm confused. I don't feel any different with a Piotti, or a Merkel, or even just a Beretta. Do I need to buy a cheaper gun to be a real hunter?
Hey, Bobby, I asked you a question.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Hey, Bobby, I asked you a question.


You talking to me? You think I'm waiting around to answer questions from a retard like you? smirk

Kidding right? What do I care if you asked me a question?

You're lucky I'm even talking to you at all...LOL!

Name all these Obama accomplishments.Please be specific.

While you're at it, also tell me about Hillary's "accomplishments", that qualify her to be president. C'mon...convince me.


If you're lucky, I might respond to your vitriolic posts in the future. Otherwise, GFY. smile

"Arrogant....... pompous......... ass. Not really all that bright either.....Mmmm....huge ego. Be easy under oath.Be tripping all over himself in no time. Clings to opinions despite the facts.They're the best ...", I said to myself. wink


As to the hunting, birds are a quaint pass time.Fun. I've hunted pheasants, sharp tails, Huns,and ruffed grouse in the west and Alberta. Mallards ,too. It was VERY easy.Fun,entertaining, but EASY. Anyone could do it.....

Here's a hint....the only "smart" ruffed grouse are east of the Mississippi.Most notably New England...where ruffed grouse hunting started. Doubt you could find and hit one...even with a $40k shotgun. But I bet you never gunned them back here?

The Benghazi movie by Michael Bay coming out next month seems to have some interesting timing for both parties. While I've read Bay "has no dog in this fight" as regarding the politics of it, I've also read that the trailer implies blame at higher level of government.

Depending on how it's done it could be a bombshell with Hiliary's name on it or could completely leave her out of it so to speak.

At any rate, Hollywood has never been reliable as a fountain of truth.
I should also add for Paddler, that everything I said about the bad lending practices was true. It was forced on the banks by the Democratic members of Congress,and the Clinton Administration. Many bad loans were made. I had contacts in the financial industry whose job it was to peddle blocks of mortgages to pension funds and other investors. They told me the crash was coming due to defaulting loans a year before it happened.

I also was positioned professionally to watch it all happen, as I worked in the real estate related businesses during that time frame, as well as during the crash of the 80's. Could see it coming.The Bush Administration tried to clean it up but top ranking Demcrats prevented any meaningful reforms to FannieMae and Freddie Mac.

So Paddler no it was not BS. The pattern of politicians created huge messes and then implementing plans to correct the mess they made, is a never ending cycle. Peel back the layers and there was usually a Democrat behind the problems.
Originally Posted by BobinNH


While you're at it, also tell me about Hillary's "accomplishments", that qualify her to be president. C'mon...convince me.


Her only "accomplishment" is being married to an ex-president. It's kind of like a banana republic. When the husband can't be president anymore, he makes his wife president.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Paddler, trust me...it doesn't suck to be me. wink

I do just fine and don;t take a dime from insurance companies to do it.

You may be right about the election. I don't make those predictions anymore because after watching this country head into the toilet at the hands of the "leaders" you support,nothing surprises me anymore. I can't look at the track record of the boobs you support and say they have done a good job.

And it's getting worse. Too many examples to cite.


Only time will tell on the election though, right?If she's elected, you can count on a continual slide into oblivion. She and that crook she's married to will amass more money from foreign governments,and continue to lie about it while they use the office as a cesspool of corruption.

I think you'd like that. You seem to condone that behavior on her part, or choose not to talk about it. Wonder why?

When are you gonna grow up and do some real hunting,anyway?


Hi Bobby,

You ask why I support Democrats? Simply because they're better than the hate-spewing Republicans in every way. Obama has rescued us from the worst recession since the Great Depression. His legacy will be incredible, in contrast to the Bush years and what would have happened if Romney had been elected.

I don't understand how anybody can support Trump or any other Republican. Here's an editorial from the real Post, the one in Washington:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...8-a8f4-11e5-bff5-905b92f5f94b_story.html

So, what do you consider "real" hunting, Bobby? Just curious.


Obama will eventually be recognized as a president "worse" than James Buchanan who many have tagged with "the worst president" distinction. Rest easier James. You too Jimmy C.

He is an arrogant, angry black, elitist, anti-American, narcissistic president, who ironically, rose to this office because of "this country." He is a pro-Muslim, anti-Christian ideologue who is also a socialist-Marxist and incapable of any statesman ship. He has shown himself to be petty and consistently untruthful. Like with the ACA.

His administration is plum with sitting Muslims whose world view is incongruent with American ideals and values as reflected in the constitution. That is, if they are true Muslims holding to the teachings of the Qur'an. Meanwhile, ISIS has grown malignant while he has been watching the weather.

He has been the wet, wool blanket on the fires of business and the economy (it's what socialists do) and a harbinger of declining personal freedom and rights (it's what dictators do). He has exacerbated race relations when white on black has occurred, ignoring black on black or black on white violence. He sits at the desk where the buck stops in regard to how many scandals now?

His foreign policy resume' is one of appeasement to Muslims, a give-away treaty with Iran, insults to Israel, and crossed red lines in the sand. He has purged the military of many high ranking officials who would have ideology/policy differences and he refused any across-the-aisle political cooperation since Day One because, you know, "we won."

Arguably, his prima fascie responsibility, on which he has also defaulted, is national security and the protection of the American folks, because he is sympathetic to and thus cannot name the people-group who have declared war on us. The vast percentage of Syrian refugees are Muslim while very few Christians are accepted. Why?

If only he had JUST led from behind, but it's the great harm he has done which is added to the wreckage of Democratic, social and economic policy that resulted in, among many other disasters, him being voted into office to begin with.
BobinNH- thanks for spending the energy to produce some thoughtful, cogent, posts.

Anyone calling this a rescued economy is under serious delusions. I think your term "over-educated" might better be described as "re-educated". A drive anywhere in Texas will bear witness to one out of state license plate after another. Cactus, floods, drought, mesquite and 100 degree temps but still they flock...I guess in that regard Obama has inadvertently helped a local economy so some will thank him as heartily as, say, the small arms makers might. laugh

Do many feel 'rescued' by food stamps, targeted subsidies (pocketed before laying off employees but still able to be used as contributions to a re-election fund) or by forced subcribtion? Perhaps some feel rescued for no longer being counted as part of the work force? Betting many might prefer an honest job. One not serving burgers or in mandated health care. At least I would like to think so.

Merry CHRISTmas all, and happy New Year.
More insanity from Hillary:

'Shallow Slogans Don't Add Up to a Presidency': Judge Jeanine Tears into Hillary's Security Plan

Clinton says one thing and does another all in the name of getting elected

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On "Justice," Judge Jeanine Pirro reacted to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's newly unveiled homeland security plan.

Pirro said that Clinton poses a greater danger to national security than the head of a terrorist cell.

She criticized Clinton for saying we need to defeat offshoots of al-Qaeda after refusing, as head of the State Department, to label Boko Haram -- the Nigeria-based Islamic group that captured hundreds of schoolgirls in 2014 -- a terrorist organization.

Pirro cited reports of Clinton's "relationship with a Nigerian land developer who gave your family's foundation 5 million dollars."

"And we should trust you? With the presidency of the United States?"

Pirro also criticized Clinton for saying "we can't afford another major ground war in the Middle East" after spearheading a mission to topple Libyan dictator Moammar Gaddafi.

"You instigated a good deal of what you and others call the Arab spring, which has turned out to be a nightmare for millions of Arabs who've been slaughtered."

Pirro said Clinton's new plan amounts to "shallow slogans" after failing to make a difference as Secretary of State before ISIS became the most powerful terror organization in history.

Watch Judge Jeanine's opening statement above and read the full transcript below.

And tell her what you think on her Facebook page or on Twitter @JudgeJeanine!

Judge Jeanine: Mr. President, Let FBI Director James Comey Do His Job

'It's About Surviving': Judge Jeanine Says U.S. Must 'Stop Pussyfooting' in Terror Fight

Who do you think poses the greatest danger to the safety of the United States? To your safety and that of your family?

That person is not a career criminal, not the head of a terrorist cell, not even your run of the mill thug. That person is a woman who will do anything to get elected.

I wasn't even going to do an open this evening because it's the holiday. For me--Christmas--and I’m generally in the Christmas spirit. But this week when Hillary Clinton laid out her comprehensive plan to bolster homeland security, I couldn't help myself - take a listen.

“Because it's not enough to contain ISIS. We need to defeat ISIS. Break its momentum and then its back. And not just ISIS. But the broader radical jihadist movement. Including al Qaida and offshoots like al Shabab in Somalia.”

Defeat not just ISIS? And offshoots like al Shabab?

So you tell me Hillary. Why, when you were in power, in charge of the State Department did you refuse to label Boko Haram a terrorist organization?

You remember them? They kidnapped hundreds of girls and that hashtag "bring back our girls.” Aren't you the self-described champion of women’s' rights?

And just recently, Boko Haram--that non-terrorist group to you--literally obliterated the Nigerian town of Baga reportedly killing 2,000 innocent citizens.

In 2010 you were presented with hard evidence of their terrorism. But no, your State Department, even after Boko Haram bombed a UN headquarters, pushed back against the CIA and the FBI who wanted them designated a terrorist organization. Thanks to you, since that time they have morphed into an even greater terror threat strapping explosives on little girls using them as suicide bombers.

So why? Why not designate them a terrorist organization? Reports are that you wouldn't designate Boko Haram even though you knew of their atrocities because of your relationship with a Nigerian land developer who gave your family's foundation 5 million dollars. And we should trust you? With the presidency of the United States?

Also in your plan to protect the homeland you say:

“We can’t afford another major ground war in the Middle East. That's exactly what ISIS wants from us.”

Really? Aren't you the one who spearheaded a mission to topple Moammar Gaddafi claiming that there was a threat that he might kill his own people?

You even order that the Pentagon take no calls from Gaddafi's son, Saif, who wanted to engage in talks to stop the mission. The truth? You instigated a good deal of what you and others call the Arab spring, which has turned out to be a nightmare for millions of Arabs who've been slaughtered.

So why Hillary? Why? Because you wanted to be a leader who could normalize Libya. It was so normalized that our ambassador and three other Americans were massacred in its capital--the first death of an ambassador in almost 40 years.

And you say you want to defeat ISIS by dismantling the global network of terror that supplies radical jihadists with money, arms and fighters. Aren't you the one who reportedly funneled arms from Libya to Turkey into Syria? Those same arms now being used against us?

And you want to intensify support for local forces who can pursue them on the ground? How are you going to do that when 500 million dollars of our money was spent to support local forces, who dropped their guns, their weapons and their drawers when they saw ISIS coming? Some plan, Hillary.

In summation you say we can defeat ISIS by smashing its stronghold, hitting its fighters, leaders and infrastructures from the air, and intensifying support for local forces, who can pursue them on the ground. That's a lot of talk from the woman who was in charge of our strategy in the State Department, and who could've made a difference before ISIS became the most powerful richest terror organization in history. But then again, you're the one who said:

“Shallow slogans don't add up to a strategy.”

And your shallow slogans don't add up to a presidency either.

And that's my open.
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by Paddler
Hey, Bobby, I asked you a question.


You talking to me? You think I'm waiting around to answer questions from a retard like you? smirk

Kidding right? What do I care if you asked me a question?

You're lucky I'm even talking to you at all...LOL!

Name all these Obama accomplishments.Please be specific.

While you're at it, also tell me about Hillary's "accomplishments", that qualify her to be president. C'mon...convince me.


If you're lucky, I might respond to your vitriolic posts in the future. Otherwise, GFY. smile

"Arrogant....... pompous......... ass. Not really all that bright either.....Mmmm....huge ego. Be easy under oath.Be tripping all over himself in no time. Clings to opinions despite the facts.They're the best ...", I said to myself. wink


As to the hunting, birds are a quaint pass time.Fun. I've hunted pheasants, sharp tails, Huns,and ruffed grouse in the west and Alberta. Mallards ,too. It was VERY easy.Fun,entertaining, but EASY. Anyone could do it.....

Here's a hint....the only "smart" ruffed grouse are east of the Mississippi.Most notably New England...where ruffed grouse hunting started. Doubt you could find and hit one...even with a $40k shotgun. But I bet you never gunned them back here?


Oh Bobby, you're completely FOS. I really don't understand how you function. Sure, bird hunting can be easy, or difficult, depending on circumstances. For example, I hunted public ground this afternoon. Fired one shot and missed. My buddy hunted a private club and shot a limit. We were 4 miles apart as the crow flies. If you think anybody can hunt birds and it's easy, come on out here and I'll take you on a chukar hunt. I guarantee you'll change you tune after about 2500' vertical.

Hillary is far and away the most qualified candidate for POTUS. If you disagree, tell me who is more qualified and why. This should be good.

Oh, and GFY also. Happy New Year.
Paddler all you need to hunt chukars are the legs of a mule deer hunter.Pheasants anywhere are slow and easy,sharp tails and huns generally have no where to hide when they flush.

New England grouse make people look stupid....dog or no dog.

Hillary is a cult figure more than anything else, her "qualifications" for president mostly a creation of the press, and carrying water for Bill all these years. The woman has nothing, except for a pronounced proclivity to lying easily.Despite being a lawyer, she clearly has no understanding, nor respect for, the law.

I remember when she was campaigning against Obama;asked "who would we want answering the phone at 3AM" in the face of a crisis,meaning her, or Obama(?) Well....the call came and both were on watch for Benghazi. They both flunked,,,let Americans be slaughtered. Disgraceful. This country and our leaders used to be better than that.

She's just incompetent,as her recent tenure as SOS easily proves,and she can't be trusted with American lives. She will sacrifice them every time to a political agenda.

I will admit...she and Bill have a talent for shake downs and influence peddling. That's fact; not opinion.

She can't stay in the same room with real accomplished people like Ted Cruz or Trump (like him or not).
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Paddler all you need to hunt chukars are the legs of a mule deer hunter.Pheasants anywhere are slow and easy,sharp tails and huns generally have no where to hide when they flush.

New England grouse make people look stupid....dog or no dog.

Hillary is a cult figure more than anything else, her "qualifications" for president mostly a creation of the press, and carrying water for Bill all these years. The woman has nothing, except for a pronounced proclivity to lying easily.Despite being a lawyer, she clearly has no understanding, nor respect for, the law.

I remember when she was campaigning against Obama;asked "who would we want answering the phone at 3AM" in the face of a crisis,meaning her, or Obama(?) Well....the call came and both were on watch for Benghazi. They both flunked,,,let Americans be slaughtered. Disgraceful. This country and our leaders used to be better than that.

She's just incompetent,as her recent tenure as SOS easily proves,and she can't be trusted with American lives. She will sacrifice them every time to a political agenda.

I will admit...she and Bill have a talent for shake downs and influence peddling. That's fact; not opinion.

She can't stay in the same room with real accomplished people like Ted Cruz or Trump (like him or not).


Okay, once again you demonstrate your fecal matter percentage. Cruz, accomplished? Isn't he the guy who shut down the government in an obviously futile attempt to defund the Affordable Care Act? Or is he the guy detested almost universally by his own party? Or is he the preachers kid, a sanctimonious prick most can't stand to look at? Oops, all three. Do you really think he's Presidential material? If so, I gotta give you credit, you're dumber than I thought. What about Trump? Accomplished? His four bankruptcies total more than his net worth, even if you add in the tax abatements. He's a carney barker, self-promoting shuckster who, like the rest of the Republican candidates, will never be President. It must be hard for you to accept the fact that Hillary is our next President. Sorry. Well, not really. Kinda fun to see your anger, frustration and hopelessness.

But onto birds. I guess we agree that the degree of difficulty is situational. You say ruffed grouse are tough back east, which is what I've read. Here in Utah, pheasants are scarce. The shots aren't difficult, just hard to come by. I walked 13 miles the last time I hunted them to kill one bird. Not many huns here, and very few on public ground. Sharptails are few enough that it's a draw hunt only in Utah. Ruffed grouse here fly up into the nearest tree, so your window of opportunity is very short. Now, if you're a fat bastard with no hunting ethics like our own Shrapnel, you can shoot them out of said tree, or better, just ride around on your ATV and shoot them on the ground. If you believe in fair chase, well, things get tougher. Dusky grouse are often found among conifers where there's little cover, so they won't hold for a point and often flush wild. You seem to discount the physical exertion involved in chasing chukars. Don't. It's typically a young man's game. Very few guys my age can pass that physical. Don't know how old you are or what kinda of shape you're in, but I guarantee you will be able to test your limits out here. Odds are you won't last long. Cheers!


"I walked 13 miles the last time I hunted them to kill one bird."

You walked 13 miles? Give me a phugggn break.
Cruz has lots of accomplishments. His most important accomplishment is standing for his principles and doing as he promised his constituency. Such as opposing the funding of ObamaCare.

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In 2012, Ted Cruz was elected as the 34th U.S. Senator from Texas. A passionate fighter for limited government, economic growth, and the Constitution, Ted won a decisive victory in both the Republican primary and the general election, despite having never before been elected to office.

Propelled by tens of thousands of grassroots activists across Texas, Ted’s election has been described by the Washington Post as “the biggest upset of 2012 . . . a true grassroots victory against very long odds.”

National Review has described Ted as “a great Reaganite hope,” columnist George Will has described him as “as good as it gets,” and the National Federation of Independent Business characterized his election as “critical to the small-business owners in [Texas, and], also to protecting free enterprise across America.”

Ted’s calling to public service is inspired largely by his first-hand observation of the pursuit of freedom and opportunity in America. Ted’s mother was born in Delaware to an Irish and Italian working-class family; she became the first in her family to go to college, graduated from Rice University with a degree in mathematics, and became a pioneering computer programmer in the 1950s.

Ted’s father was born in Cuba, fought in the revolution, and was imprisoned and tortured. He fled to Texas in 1957, penniless and not speaking a word of English. He washed dishes for 50 cents an hour, paid his way through the University of Texas, and started a small business in the oil and gas industry. Today, Ted’s father is a pastor in Dallas.

In the Senate, Ted serves on the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation; the Committee on Armed Services; the Committee on the Judiciary; the Joint Economic Committee; and the Committee on Rules and Administration.

Before being elected, Ted received national acclaim as the Solicitor General of Texas, the State's chief lawyer before the U.S. Supreme Court. Serving under Attorney General Greg Abbott, Ted was the nation’s youngest Solicitor General, the longest serving Solicitor General in Texas, and the first Hispanic Solicitor General of Texas.

In private practice in Houston, Ted spent five years as a partner at one of the nation’s largest law firms, where he led the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national Appellate Litigation practice. Ted has authored more than 80 U.S. Supreme Court briefs and argued 43 oral arguments, including nine before the U.S. Supreme Court. During Ted’s service as Solicitor General, Texas achieved an unprecedented series of landmark national victories, including successfully defending:

• U.S. sovereignty against the UN and the World Court in Medellin v. Texas;
• The Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms;
• The constitutionality of the Texas Ten Commandments monument;
• The constitutionality of the words “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance;
• The constitutionality of the Texas Sexually Violent Predator Civil Commitment law; and
• The Texas congressional redistricting plan.

The National Law Journal has called Ted “a key voice” to whom “the [U.S. Supreme Court] Justices listen.” Ted has been named by American Lawyer magazine as one of the 50 Best Litigators under 45 in America, by the National Law Journal as one of the 50 Most Influential Minority Lawyers in America, and by Texas Lawyer as one of the 25 Greatest Texas Lawyers of the Past Quarter Century.

From 2004-09, he taught U.S. Supreme Court Litigation as an Adjunct Professor of Law at the University of Texas School of Law.

Prior to becoming Solicitor General, he served as the Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, as Associate Deputy Attorney General at the U.S. Department of Justice, and as Domestic Policy Advisor on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign.

Ted graduated with honors from Princeton University and with high honors from Harvard Law School. He served as a law clerk to Chief Justice William Rehnquist on the U.S. Supreme Court. He was the first Hispanic ever to clerk for the Chief Justice of the United States.

Ted and his wife Heidi live in his hometown of Houston, Texas, with their two young daughters Caroline and Catherine.
Why do you doubt that? I hunted them on November 17, 2010, at Farmington Bay Waterfowl Management Area. You can retrace my route on Google Earth and measure it if you like. I walked from the Turpin parking lot all the way out to around the Miller unit and back. 13 miles by GPS. Here are a few photos from that hunt. The first is my Grulla with the rooster and a hen canvasback that tried to cross the dike over my head. My shorthair doesn't do water, so I had to try to land her on the dike:

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There were lots of swans flying that day. This one shows swans dropping into the Turpin with the hills above Bountiful in the background:

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This next one is looking back west as I walked back to my car. I like it because the swans up top are a nice surprise:

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This is the first Turpin bridge at sunset. My wife liked it so much it's on display in my home theater:

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Here's my route from that day. Measure it if you like:

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I don't exaggerate my hunting experiences. No need to. Don't know why anyone think otherwise.





Originally Posted by ConradCA
Cruz has lots of accomplishments. His most important accomplishment is standing for his principles and doing as he promised his constituency. Such as opposing the funding of ObamaCare.

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In 2012, Ted Cruz was elected as the 34th U.S. Senator from Texas. A passionate fighter for limited government, economic growth, and the Constitution, Ted won a decisive victory in both the Republican primary and the general election, despite having never before been elected to office.

Propelled by tens of thousands of grassroots activists across Texas, Ted’s election has been described by the Washington Post as “the biggest upset of 2012 . . . a true grassroots victory against very long odds.”

National Review has described Ted as “a great Reaganite hope,” columnist George Will has described him as “as good as it gets,” and the National Federation of Independent Business characterized his election as “critical to the small-business owners in [Texas, and], also to protecting free enterprise across America.”

Ted’s calling to public service is inspired largely by his first-hand observation of the pursuit of freedom and opportunity in America. Ted’s mother was born in Delaware to an Irish and Italian working-class family; she became the first in her family to go to college, graduated from Rice University with a degree in mathematics, and became a pioneering computer programmer in the 1950s.

Ted’s father was born in Cuba, fought in the revolution, and was imprisoned and tortured. He fled to Texas in 1957, penniless and not speaking a word of English. He washed dishes for 50 cents an hour, paid his way through the University of Texas, and started a small business in the oil and gas industry. Today, Ted’s father is a pastor in Dallas.

In the Senate, Ted serves on the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation; the Committee on Armed Services; the Committee on the Judiciary; the Joint Economic Committee; and the Committee on Rules and Administration.

Before being elected, Ted received national acclaim as the Solicitor General of Texas, the State's chief lawyer before the U.S. Supreme Court. Serving under Attorney General Greg Abbott, Ted was the nation’s youngest Solicitor General, the longest serving Solicitor General in Texas, and the first Hispanic Solicitor General of Texas.

In private practice in Houston, Ted spent five years as a partner at one of the nation’s largest law firms, where he led the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national Appellate Litigation practice. Ted has authored more than 80 U.S. Supreme Court briefs and argued 43 oral arguments, including nine before the U.S. Supreme Court. During Ted’s service as Solicitor General, Texas achieved an unprecedented series of landmark national victories, including successfully defending:

• U.S. sovereignty against the UN and the World Court in Medellin v. Texas;
• The Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms;
• The constitutionality of the Texas Ten Commandments monument;
• The constitutionality of the words “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance;
• The constitutionality of the Texas Sexually Violent Predator Civil Commitment law; and
• The Texas congressional redistricting plan.

The National Law Journal has called Ted “a key voice” to whom “the [U.S. Supreme Court] Justices listen.” Ted has been named by American Lawyer magazine as one of the 50 Best Litigators under 45 in America, by the National Law Journal as one of the 50 Most Influential Minority Lawyers in America, and by Texas Lawyer as one of the 25 Greatest Texas Lawyers of the Past Quarter Century.

From 2004-09, he taught U.S. Supreme Court Litigation as an Adjunct Professor of Law at the University of Texas School of Law.

Prior to becoming Solicitor General, he served as the Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, as Associate Deputy Attorney General at the U.S. Department of Justice, and as Domestic Policy Advisor on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign.

Ted graduated with honors from Princeton University and with high honors from Harvard Law School. He served as a law clerk to Chief Justice William Rehnquist on the U.S. Supreme Court. He was the first Hispanic ever to clerk for the Chief Justice of the United States.

Ted and his wife Heidi live in his hometown of Houston, Texas, with their two young daughters Caroline and Catherine.


He's a douche.
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Webb Hubbell is rumored to be the biological father to Chelsea Clinton. Reportedly, businessman Finis Shelnutt (who was once Hubbell’s brother-in-law) told The National Enquirer that Hilary Clinton and Hubbell’s alleged affair wasn’t a big secret. “That was rumored in Arkansas for years and totally public. A lot of people suspected that,” Shelnutt said, adding that the older Chelsea gets, the more she looks like Hubbell.

Read more: http://newsrescue.com/bombshell-bil...r-hillary-clinton-adultery-scandal-pics/
Originally Posted by Clarkm


Webb Hubbell is rumored to be the biological father to Chelsea Clinton. Reportedly, businessman Finis Shelnutt (who was once Hubbell’s brother-in-law) told The National Enquirer that Hilary Clinton and Hubbell’s alleged affair wasn’t a big secret. “That was rumored in Arkansas for years and totally public. A lot of people suspected that,” Shelnutt said, adding that the older Chelsea gets, the more she looks like Hubbell.

Read more: http://newsrescue.com/bombshell-bil...r-hillary-clinton-adultery-scandal-pics/


Of course, you freaking idiot. You still believe Obama was born in Keyna, right? You are incredibly stupid.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Paddler all you need to hunt chukars are the legs of a mule deer hunter.Pheasants anywhere are slow and easy,sharp tails and huns generally have no where to hide when they flush.

New England grouse make people look stupid....dog or no dog.

Hillary is a cult figure more than anything else, her "qualifications" for president mostly a creation of the press, and carrying water for Bill all these years. The woman has nothing, except for a pronounced proclivity to lying easily.Despite being a lawyer, she clearly has no understanding, nor respect for, the law.

I remember when she was campaigning against Obama;asked "who would we want answering the phone at 3AM" in the face of a crisis,meaning her, or Obama(?) Well....the call came and both were on watch for Benghazi. They both flunked,,,let Americans be slaughtered. Disgraceful. This country and our leaders used to be better than that.

She's just incompetent,as her recent tenure as SOS easily proves,and she can't be trusted with American lives. She will sacrifice them every time to a political agenda.

I will admit...she and Bill have a talent for shake downs and influence peddling. That's fact; not opinion.

She can't stay in the same room with real accomplished people like Ted Cruz or Trump (like him or not).


Okay, once again you demonstrate your fecal matter percentage. Cruz, accomplished? Isn't he the guy who shut down the government in an obviously futile attempt to defund the Affordable Care Act? Or is he the guy detested almost universally by his own party? Or is he the preachers kid, a sanctimonious prick most can't stand to look at? Oops, all three. Do you really think he's Presidential material? If so, I gotta give you credit, you're dumber than I thought. What about Trump? Accomplished? His four bankruptcies total more than his net worth, even if you add in the tax abatements. He's a carney barker, self-promoting shuckster who, like the rest of the Republican candidates, will never be President. It must be hard for you to accept the fact that Hillary is our next President. Sorry. Well, not really. Kinda fun to see your anger, frustration and hopelessness.

But onto birds. I guess we agree that the degree of difficulty is situational. You say ruffed grouse are tough back east, which is what I've read. Here in Utah, pheasants are scarce. The shots aren't difficult, just hard to come by. I walked 13 miles the last time I hunted them to kill one bird. Not many huns here, and very few on public ground. Sharptails are few enough that it's a draw hunt only in Utah. Ruffed grouse here fly up into the nearest tree, so your window of opportunity is very short. Now, if you're a fat bastard with no hunting ethics like our own Shrapnel, you can shoot them out of said tree, or better, just ride around on your ATV and shoot them on the ground. If you believe in fair chase, well, things get tougher. Dusky grouse are often found among conifers where there's little cover, so they won't hold for a point and often flush wild. You seem to discount the physical exertion involved in chasing chukars. Don't. It's typically a young man's game. Very few guys my age can pass that physical. Don't know how old you are or what kinda of shape you're in, but I guarantee you will be able to test your limits out here. Odds are you won't last long. Cheers!





Blah blah blah....delusion. Alan Dershowitz says Cruz was the brightest student he ever had at Harvard Law School.It takes some brains to argue before the Supreme Court.

Alan and Harvard are on your approved list....no?

You talking about sanctimonious pricks is the pot calling the kettle "black". The only thing you're good at is insulting people. LOL!

I shot my sharp tails in Montana. I wouldn't bother with Utah for anything except elk and mule deer. No doubt in my mind I've done more western hunting than you have. Lecture someone else. grin

Who cares about chukkas? LOL!

Conversation over. You wrestle with pigs you're gonna get dirty. I've had my fun with you. We're done. laugh

Bye now.
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Paddler all you need to hunt chukars are the legs of a mule deer hunter.Pheasants anywhere are slow and easy,sharp tails and huns generally have no where to hide when they flush.

New England grouse make people look stupid....dog or no dog.

Hillary is a cult figure more than anything else, her "qualifications" for president mostly a creation of the press, and carrying water for Bill all these years. The woman has nothing, except for a pronounced proclivity to lying easily.Despite being a lawyer, she clearly has no understanding, nor respect for, the law.

I remember when she was campaigning against Obama;asked "who would we want answering the phone at 3AM" in the face of a crisis,meaning her, or Obama(?) Well....the call came and both were on watch for Benghazi. They both flunked,,,let Americans be slaughtered. Disgraceful. This country and our leaders used to be better than that.

She's just incompetent,as her recent tenure as SOS easily proves,and she can't be trusted with American lives. She will sacrifice them every time to a political agenda.

I will admit...she and Bill have a talent for shake downs and influence peddling. That's fact; not opinion.

She can't stay in the same room with real accomplished people like Ted Cruz or Trump (like him or not).


Okay, once again you demonstrate your fecal matter percentage. Cruz, accomplished? Isn't he the guy who shut down the government in an obviously futile attempt to defund the Affordable Care Act? Or is he the guy detested almost universally by his own party? Or is he the preachers kid, a sanctimonious prick most can't stand to look at? Oops, all three. Do you really think he's Presidential material? If so, I gotta give you credit, you're dumber than I thought. What about Trump? Accomplished? His four bankruptcies total more than his net worth, even if you add in the tax abatements. He's a carney barker, self-promoting shuckster who, like the rest of the Republican candidates, will never be President. It must be hard for you to accept the fact that Hillary is our next President. Sorry. Well, not really. Kinda fun to see your anger, frustration and hopelessness.

But onto birds. I guess we agree that the degree of difficulty is situational. You say ruffed grouse are tough back east, which is what I've read. Here in Utah, pheasants are scarce. The shots aren't difficult, just hard to come by. I walked 13 miles the last time I hunted them to kill one bird. Not many huns here, and very few on public ground. Sharptails are few enough that it's a draw hunt only in Utah. Ruffed grouse here fly up into the nearest tree, so your window of opportunity is very short. Now, if you're a fat bastard with no hunting ethics like our own Shrapnel, you can shoot them out of said tree, or better, just ride around on your ATV and shoot them on the ground. If you believe in fair chase, well, things get tougher. Dusky grouse are often found among conifers where there's little cover, so they won't hold for a point and often flush wild. You seem to discount the physical exertion involved in chasing chukars. Don't. It's typically a young man's game. Very few guys my age can pass that physical. Don't know how old you are or what kinda of shape you're in, but I guarantee you will be able to test your limits out here. Odds are you won't last long. Cheers!





Blah blah blah....delusion. Alan Dershowitz says Cruz was the brightest student he ever had at Harvard Law School.It takes some brains to argue before the Supreme Court.

Alan and Harvard are on your approved list....no?

You talking about sanctimonious pricks is the pot calling the kettle "black". The only thing you're good at is insulting people. LOL!

I shot my sharp tails in Montana. I wouldn't bother with Utah for anything except elk and mule deer. No doubt in my mind I've done more western hunting than you have. Lecture someone else. grin

Who cares about chukkas? LOL!

Conversation over. You wrestle with pigs you're gonna get dirty. I've had my fun with you. We're done. laugh

Bye now.


Really, Bobby? You want to compare hunting resumes? Who has more hunting experience in the west? Do tell. I'm not talking guided hunts or bird farms, I'm talking freelance hunting on public ground. I'm confident your assertions about hunting bear as little resemblance to reality as your political views. I really wonder about guys like you, big talkers, nothing to back it up. Happy New Year.
Nobody gives a chit about what/how/where you hunt...other than maybe how to avoid you...I seen you brought up the ACA...Well, Cruz did the right thing...the ACA is badly flawed and did nothing to address the high costs of medical care...You may approve of legislation being passed that hasn't even been read, but I don't...Remember Nancy Pelosi saying "we have to pass it to see what's in it"??? If so, maybe you're also ok with the lawmakers exempting themselves & their staffs from it??? It must have been a great plan to get them to do that...
Back to the OP...I really don't think we know what her most repugnant lie is...YET
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Nobody gives a chit about what/how/where you hunt...other than maybe how to avoid you...I seen you brought up the ACA...Well, Cruz did the right thing...the ACA is badly flawed and did nothing to address the high costs of medical care...You may approve of legislation being passed that hasn't even been read, but I don't...Remember Nancy Pelosi saying "we have to pass it to see what's in it"??? If so, maybe you're also ok with the lawmakers exempting themselves & their staffs from it??? It must have been a great plan to get them to do that...


Cruz hasn't done one single productive thing as Senator. Ambitious, yes, but only for self-agrandizement. What has he actually accomplished? His policies are stuck in the 1950s, he has nothing to offer the country. Anti-abortion, anti-immigration reform, anti-providing healthcare, anti-everything. Again, he's nothing but a puke. You're going to be very disappointed come next November.

Bobby brought up hunting, not me. He seems to think that hunting with high quality guns somehow detracts from the experience. He knows nothing about hunting, politics, public policy, or, it seems, anything else. He's surely just another angry, fat old white bastard who does his hunting behind his keyboard.

Containing the cost of healthcare will be a long battle, for so many reasons. I'm not optimistic in the near term.
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Paddler all you need to hunt chukars are the legs of a mule deer hunter.Pheasants anywhere are slow and easy,sharp tails and huns generally have no where to hide when they flush.

New England grouse make people look stupid....dog or no dog.

Hillary is a cult figure more than anything else, her "qualifications" for president mostly a creation of the press, and carrying water for Bill all these years. The woman has nothing, except for a pronounced proclivity to lying easily.Despite being a lawyer, she clearly has no understanding, nor respect for, the law.

I remember when she was campaigning against Obama;asked "who would we want answering the phone at 3AM" in the face of a crisis,meaning her, or Obama(?) Well....the call came and both were on watch for Benghazi. They both flunked,,,let Americans be slaughtered. Disgraceful. This country and our leaders used to be better than that.

She's just incompetent,as her recent tenure as SOS easily proves,and she can't be trusted with American lives. She will sacrifice them every time to a political agenda.

I will admit...she and Bill have a talent for shake downs and influence peddling. That's fact; not opinion.

She can't stay in the same room with real accomplished people like Ted Cruz or Trump (like him or not).


Okay, once again you demonstrate your fecal matter percentage. Cruz, accomplished? Isn't he the guy who shut down the government in an obviously futile attempt to defund the Affordable Care Act? Or is he the guy detested almost universally by his own party? Or is he the preachers kid, a sanctimonious prick most can't stand to look at? Oops, all three. Do you really think he's Presidential material? If so, I gotta give you credit, you're dumber than I thought. What about Trump? Accomplished? His four bankruptcies total more than his net worth, even if you add in the tax abatements. He's a carney barker, self-promoting shuckster who, like the rest of the Republican candidates, will never be President. It must be hard for you to accept the fact that Hillary is our next President. Sorry. Well, not really. Kinda fun to see your anger, frustration and hopelessness.

But onto birds. I guess we agree that the degree of difficulty is situational. You say ruffed grouse are tough back east, which is what I've read. Here in Utah, pheasants are scarce. The shots aren't difficult, just hard to come by. I walked 13 miles the last time I hunted them to kill one bird. Not many huns here, and very few on public ground. Sharptails are few enough that it's a draw hunt only in Utah. Ruffed grouse here fly up into the nearest tree, so your window of opportunity is very short. Now, if you're a fat bastard with no hunting ethics like our own Shrapnel, you can shoot them out of said tree, or better, just ride around on your ATV and shoot them on the ground. If you believe in fair chase, well, things get tougher. Dusky grouse are often found among conifers where there's little cover, so they won't hold for a point and often flush wild. You seem to discount the physical exertion involved in chasing chukars. Don't. It's typically a young man's game. Very few guys my age can pass that physical. Don't know how old you are or what kinda of shape you're in, but I guarantee you will be able to test your limits out here. Odds are you won't last long. Cheers!





Blah blah blah....delusion. Alan Dershowitz says Cruz was the brightest student he ever had at Harvard Law School.It takes some brains to argue before the Supreme Court.

Alan and Harvard are on your approved list....no?

You talking about sanctimonious pricks is the pot calling the kettle "black". The only thing you're good at is insulting people. LOL!

I shot my sharp tails in Montana. I wouldn't bother with Utah for anything except elk and mule deer. No doubt in my mind I've done more western hunting than you have. Lecture someone else. grin

Who cares about chukkas? LOL!

Conversation over. You wrestle with pigs you're gonna get dirty. I've had my fun with you. We're done. laugh

Bye now.
Never hunted sharp tails or chuckers,did hunt kudu though. wink

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Is it ok if I hang with you BobinNH? grin

Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Paddler all you need to hunt chukars are the legs of a mule deer hunter.Pheasants anywhere are slow and easy,sharp tails and huns generally have no where to hide when they flush.

New England grouse make people look stupid....dog or no dog.

Hillary is a cult figure more than anything else, her "qualifications" for president mostly a creation of the press, and carrying water for Bill all these years. The woman has nothing, except for a pronounced proclivity to lying easily.Despite being a lawyer, she clearly has no understanding, nor respect for, the law.

I remember when she was campaigning against Obama;asked "who would we want answering the phone at 3AM" in the face of a crisis,meaning her, or Obama(?) Well....the call came and both were on watch for Benghazi. They both flunked,,,let Americans be slaughtered. Disgraceful. This country and our leaders used to be better than that.

She's just incompetent,as her recent tenure as SOS easily proves,and she can't be trusted with American lives. She will sacrifice them every time to a political agenda.

I will admit...she and Bill have a talent for shake downs and influence peddling. That's fact; not opinion.

She can't stay in the same room with real accomplished people like Ted Cruz or Trump (like him or not).


Okay, once again you demonstrate your fecal matter percentage. Cruz, accomplished? Isn't he the guy who shut down the government in an obviously futile attempt to defund the Affordable Care Act? Or is he the guy detested almost universally by his own party? Or is he the preachers kid, a sanctimonious prick most can't stand to look at? Oops, all three. Do you really think he's Presidential material? If so, I gotta give you credit, you're dumber than I thought. What about Trump? Accomplished? His four bankruptcies total more than his net worth, even if you add in the tax abatements. He's a carney barker, self-promoting shuckster who, like the rest of the Republican candidates, will never be President. It must be hard for you to accept the fact that Hillary is our next President. Sorry. Well, not really. Kinda fun to see your anger, frustration and hopelessness.

But onto birds. I guess we agree that the degree of difficulty is situational. You say ruffed grouse are tough back east, which is what I've read. Here in Utah, pheasants are scarce. The shots aren't difficult, just hard to come by. I walked 13 miles the last time I hunted them to kill one bird. Not many huns here, and very few on public ground. Sharptails are few enough that it's a draw hunt only in Utah. Ruffed grouse here fly up into the nearest tree, so your window of opportunity is very short. Now, if you're a fat bastard with no hunting ethics like our own Shrapnel, you can shoot them out of said tree, or better, just ride around on your ATV and shoot them on the ground. If you believe in fair chase, well, things get tougher. Dusky grouse are often found among conifers where there's little cover, so they won't hold for a point and often flush wild. You seem to discount the physical exertion involved in chasing chukars. Don't. It's typically a young man's game. Very few guys my age can pass that physical. Don't know how old you are or what kinda of shape you're in, but I guarantee you will be able to test your limits out here. Odds are you won't last long. Cheers!





Blah blah blah....delusion. Alan Dershowitz says Cruz was the brightest student he ever had at Harvard Law School.It takes some brains to argue before the Supreme Court.

Alan and Harvard are on your approved list....no?

You talking about sanctimonious pricks is the pot calling the kettle "black". The only thing you're good at is insulting people. LOL!

I shot my sharp tails in Montana. I wouldn't bother with Utah for anything except elk and mule deer. No doubt in my mind I've done more western hunting than you have. Lecture someone else. grin

Who cares about chukkas? LOL!

Conversation over. You wrestle with pigs you're gonna get dirty. I've had my fun with you. We're done. laugh

Bye now.
Never hunted sharp tails or chuckers,did hunt kudu though. wink

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Is it ok if I hang with you BobinNH? grin



Well, it depends on your definition of hunting, trophies, etc. I think like Aldo Leupold, who said, "The value of any trophy from the field depends not on its size but on the magnitude of the effort expended in it's pursuit." So, if you followed your PH around with your nose up his butt and shot when and what he told you to, well, you be the judge. Is your kudu more of a trophy than a chukar you earned by sidehilling all day on shale, with a net vertical of a couple or three thousand feet? Or is it more of a trophy than a New England ruffed grouse you hiked all day for and made a tough shot through thick cover over a good dog you trained yourself? I don't know the circumstances of your hunt, but it's important to judge it in context. Feel free to hang with Bobby if that's what you like. Give Shrapnel a call while you're at it. He has no standards whatsoever.
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Did somebody step in dog paddler? Stinks.
You noticed the stench also?
Well just to believe that there are two men that did Hillary is a pretty big stretch in my mind.

I don't believe even Ben Franklin would have mentioned the "All cats are grey in the dark" c h it if he had ever crossed paths with the Hildabeast.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Clarkm


Webb Hubbell is rumored to be the biological father to Chelsea Clinton. Reportedly, businessman Finis Shelnutt (who was once Hubbell’s brother-in-law) told The National Enquirer that Hilary Clinton and Hubbell’s alleged affair wasn’t a big secret. “That was rumored in Arkansas for years and totally public. A lot of people suspected that,” Shelnutt said, adding that the older Chelsea gets, the more she looks like Hubbell.

Read more: http://newsrescue.com/bombshell-bil...r-hillary-clinton-adultery-scandal-pics/


Of course, you freaking idiot. You still believe Obama was born in Keyna, right? You are incredibly stupid.


I never cared where Obama was born.

But at age 64 I have not seen a doctor since the ACA was passed, and I would rather die than be treated with obama care.

He is doing gun control today.
311 more days until we can elect a republican Pres.
Originally Posted by Clarkm
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Clarkm


Webb Hubbell is rumored to be the biological father to Chelsea Clinton. Reportedly, businessman Finis Shelnutt (who was once Hubbell’s brother-in-law) told The National Enquirer that Hilary Clinton and Hubbell’s alleged affair wasn’t a big secret. “That was rumored in Arkansas for years and totally public. A lot of people suspected that,” Shelnutt said, adding that the older Chelsea gets, the more she looks like Hubbell.

Read more: http://newsrescue.com/bombshell-bil...r-hillary-clinton-adultery-scandal-pics/


Of course, you freaking idiot. You still believe Obama was born in Keyna, right? You are incredibly stupid.


I never cared where Obama was born.

But at age 64 I have not seen a doctor since the ACA was passed, and I would rather die than be treated with obama care.

He is doing gun control today.
311 more days until we can elect a republican Pres.


That's weird, dude. If you're waiting for a Republican president or ACA to go away, you'll die before your next appointment.
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Is that supposed to impress anybody?
Ken you're good to go!

Paddler is a funny guy. Another liberal I can't really take seriously.

Paddler you mean to tell me that a guy of your means and sophistication has only "read"about New England grouse hunting? You mean you never got your white ass on a plane and came to Maine to hunt grouse? It's a big state and there's grouse border to border...plenty of room to rove around without guides...assuming you can keep from getting lost.

You don't even need a dog....if you know what you're doing, to find grouse. Read some Frank Woolner and Burton Spiller before you show up. You know what Spiller said about killing grouse,don't you?..."Guns don't kill grouse; legs do".It's ...how do you call it? Freelance hunting on public ground? That's all we have here! LMAO you western bird hunters like to make a big deal out of nothing.

Cripes at least I got my fat white ass on a plane to sample western bird hunting. I've been in and out of Salt Lake so many times I've lost count. Real wilderness that....more ATV trails running through the Wasatch Front it looks like a big recreational park. LMAO.

Mostly, coming through there, I'm on my way to the same 50,000 acre ranch I've been hunting since 1979-1980. I have a standing invite to hunt the mule deer, antelope, and elk that live there....but there aren't any guides.I get to (how do you say? Freelance hunt on 50,000 acres? Without a guide? Just like I get to do back here. I'll hunt there again this year.

(Wonder how i managed to kill anything out there all these years,since I don't know what I'm doing. wink Astonishing.

But sometimes I've been on my way to southern Utah for mule deer. I have had a guide on hand for that....mostly because I needed the outfit for access. Didn't need them to find a mule deer, that's for sure.

Given the logistics, planning a Maine grouse hunt should be a piece of cake.Bring a light 20 that balances well in one hand....you'll need the other free for pushing cover out of the way with your free hand. Hope you don't mind getting that fancy double scratched up a bit.Might get wet, too!

Make sure you stop in an opening so you can mount and swing to shoot. Not much room in there and the break in your cadence is what will make them flush. You'll have 2-4 seconds. Good luck.

BTW.....one bird for three shells expended is considered top notch shooting because it's pretty hard shooting,and a true double is reason to call everyone to brag. My fat white ass has pulled it off three times.

But...if you really want to do something "hard" and achieve one of Gassetts true "trophies",bring a rifle,and try...on your own...to kill a mature Maine whitetail buck.I'll give you 5 years to kill a 200 pound+buck. No worries....you won't do it.

Bring a compass or GPS. You open country boys will get your asses lost 100 yards off a tote road.

[bleep] western liberal philosophers....make me LMAO.
Alright! cool



Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
the ACA is badly flawed and did nothing to address the high costs of medical care...You may approve of legislation being passed that hasn't even been read, but I don't...Remember Nancy Pelosi saying "we have to pass it to see what's in it"??? If so, maybe you're also ok with the lawmakers exempting themselves & their staffs from it??? It must have been a great plan to get them to do that...


Cruz hasn't done one single productive thing as Senator. Ambitious, yes, but only for self-agrandizement. What has he actually accomplished? His policies are stuck in the 1950s, he has nothing to offer the country. Anti-abortion, anti-immigration reform, anti-providing healthcare, anti-everything. Again, he's nothing but a puke. You're going to be very disappointed come next November.
Containing the cost of healthcare will be a long battle, for so many reasons. I'm not optimistic in the near term.



Don't deflect the question by ranting about Cruz...

Obama has had eight years to tackle the high costs associated with medicine & medical care... I happen to be anti abortion, anti immigration, (sic)"anti-providing healthcare" & the ONLY way I'll be disappointed is IF another democrat or socialist is elected...I just want the next president to do the job he was elected to do...NOT to do what he/she THINKS what is best for me...I want a president that can actually SEE the muslim problem for what it is & take appropriate measures to protect U.S. & its interests....How about a president that fully supports the constitution & Bill Of Rights of the U.S. unconditionally, instead of picking & choosing the parts he likes??? How about a president that enforces federal laws instead of spending most of his time trying to find a way to circumvent them???
Originally Posted by BobinNH


Paddler is a funny guy. Another liberal I can't really take seriously.


You better take them seriously...they're trying their damnedest to socially re-engineer America...I don't find him or others of his ilk funny at all!!!
Originally Posted by ConradCA
How low can this scumbag go?


About 8 more years, if Trump is the best the elephants have to offer.
Originally Posted by Paddler
He's a douche.


That's a well reasoned argument. It's the same reasoning that convinced millions of people to vote for the worst President ever. It's the same logic that has convincing millions of progressive fascists like you to vote for Hillary despite the fact that she's a lying felon who's incompetence murdered our people in Benghazi, murder by depraved indifference.
Originally Posted by BFD
Originally Posted by ConradCA
How low can this scumbag go?


About 8 more years, if Trump is the best the elephants have to offer.


Man...that sure makes a lot of sense....

I suppose you'd rather have another democrat that ignores federal laws that THEY don't agree with???

One that tells you what is OK & not OK to say & think???

One that sends federal civil rights investigators when the black community has one of their "gentle giants" killed after robbing a store & assaulting a police officer???

One that has the attorney general prosecute WHITE people with "Hate Crime" while ignoring the hate crimes committed by the black community????

One that has the IRS target your political adversaries?

One that feels both the first & second amendments are only for the elite political class???

I could go on all day....bottom line is that it appears that none of you "liberals" are capable of original thought & critical thinking...you need to be told how to think/act.

MOST of you probably wouldn't survive without cradle to grave support from the govt...
Paddler,

Would you mind answering Bob's direct question with a direct answer? You have not even touched on these.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

Name all these Obama accomplishments.Please be specific.

While you're at it, also tell me about Hillary's "accomplishments", that qualify her to be president. C'mon...convince me.



Also, what kind of a prissy dog do you have, "my Shorthair doesn't do water". Do you tell the dog what to do, or does the dog tell you?
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by BFD
Originally Posted by ConradCA
How low can this scumbag go?


About 8 more years, if Trump is the best the elephants have to offer.


Man...that sure makes a lot of sense....

I suppose you'd rather have another democrat that ignores federal laws that THEY don't agree with???

One that tells you what is OK & not OK to say & think???


Dude, read it again. I didn't say a damn thing about what I want. I'm tellin you what's gonna happen if the els can't wake up and get their [bleep] together.

Lots of els could be the Hill, but Trump ain't one of them. Simple as that. Would you rather have the Hill instead of Rubio or Bush? Cuz that's what your gonna get if you keep riding The Mouth. Why do you even listen to that guy much less follow him off the cliff?

You are a sucker for celebratory types.
well well, what do you know. That darn Gowdy let her off again.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/31/state-dept-breaks-judges-deadline-clinton-emails/

Originally Posted by BFD
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by BFD
Originally Posted by ConradCA
How low can this scumbag go?


About 8 more years, if Trump is the best the elephants have to offer.


Man...that sure makes a lot of sense....

I suppose you'd rather have another democrat that ignores federal laws that THEY don't agree with???

One that tells you what is OK & not OK to say & think???


Dude, read it again. I didn't say a damn thing about what I want. I'm tellin you what's gonna happen if the els can't wake up and get their [bleep] together.

Lots of els could be the Hill, but Trump ain't one of them. Simple as that. Would you rather have the Hill instead of Rubio or Bush? Cuz that's what your gonna get if you keep riding The Mouth. Why do you even listen to that guy much less follow him off the cliff?

You are a sucker for celebratory types.

Did you mean celebrity types?...your wrong. I'm pulling for Ted.

What I got from your post is that you think Hillary or Bernie would be a better choice than Trump...if so, you're wrong again.
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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Ken you're good to go!

Paddler is a funny guy. Another liberal I can't really take seriously.

Paddler you mean to tell me that a guy of your means and sophistication has only "read"about New England grouse hunting? You mean you never got your white ass on a plane and came to Maine to hunt grouse? It's a big state and there's grouse border to border...plenty of room to rove around without guides...assuming you can keep from getting lost.

You don't even need a dog....if you know what you're doing, to find grouse. Read some Frank Woolner and Burton Spiller before you show up. You know what Spiller said about killing grouse,don't you?..."Guns don't kill grouse; legs do".It's ...how do you call it? Freelance hunting on public ground? That's all we have here! LMAO you western bird hunters like to make a big deal out of nothing.

Cripes at least I got my fat white ass on a plane to sample western bird hunting. I've been in and out of Salt Lake so many times I've lost count. Real wilderness that....more ATV trails running through the Wasatch Front it looks like a big recreational park. LMAO.

Mostly, coming through there, I'm on my way to the same 50,000 acre ranch I've been hunting since 1979-1980. I have a standing invite to hunt the mule deer, antelope, and elk that live there....but there aren't any guides.I get to (how do you say? Freelance hunt on 50,000 acres? Without a guide? Just like I get to do back here. I'll hunt there again this year.

(Wonder how i managed to kill anything out there all these years,since I don't know what I'm doing. wink Astonishing.

But sometimes I've been on my way to southern Utah for mule deer. I have had a guide on hand for that....mostly because I needed the outfit for access. Didn't need them to find a mule deer, that's for sure.

Given the logistics, planning a Maine grouse hunt should be a piece of cake.Bring a light 20 that balances well in one hand....you'll need the other free for pushing cover out of the way with your free hand. Hope you don't mind getting that fancy double scratched up a bit.Might get wet, too!

Make sure you stop in an opening so you can mount and swing to shoot. Not much room in there and the break in your cadence is what will make them flush. You'll have 2-4 seconds. Good luck.

BTW.....one bird for three shells expended is considered top notch shooting because it's pretty hard shooting,and a true double is reason to call everyone to brag. My fat white ass has pulled it off three times.

But...if you really want to do something "hard" and achieve one of Gassetts true "trophies",bring a rifle,and try...on your own...to kill a mature Maine whitetail buck.I'll give you 5 years to kill a 200 pound+buck. No worries....you won't do it.

Bring a compass or GPS. You open country boys will get your asses lost 100 yards off a tote road.

[bleep] western liberal philosophers....make me LMAO.


So, hunting a private ranch is the same as hunting private ground? Grow up. A guided mule deer hunt? Sure, that's doing it on your own.

I hunt locally mostly and don't feel a need to fly to Maine to hunt grouse. Deer hunting doesn't interest me much anymore. I'm a Lifetime Licensee here and so get a free deer tag on the general season unit of my choice. Last time I told me wife I was going up to hunt deer she asked, "Why are you going to do that?" Good question, as I don't like eating them. Wouldn't mind trying grain fed whitetail, though. In the meantime, I kill plenty of geese in Canada every year, freelance of course, and they're way better than stinky mule deer. We just load up my Expedition with Real Geese Pro silhouettes and drive north till we find birds.

I hunt grouse in September and October until the first frost kills the mosquitoes, then ducks. Head up to Canada in November for geese. December means hunting the ice for ducks and geese, then chukars until mid February. I'm swamped. Next time you come through Salt Lake plan on a stopover. I'll take your fat ass up in the mountains and you can see for yourself how good we have it here.
Originally Posted by BFD
Originally Posted by ConradCA
How low can this scumbag go?


About 8 more years, if Trump is the best the elephants have to offer.


Exactly. You could add the douche Cruz to that, and Rubio the Eagle Scout to the list. Forget about Carson, most people have. Bush is a non-starter. Hillary is our next president. Sorry to say that racists like MFM and the other delusional right wing crazies here are screwed. But hey, it's good for the country. Can I get an amen???
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by BFD
Originally Posted by ConradCA
How low can this scumbag go?


About 8 more years, if Trump is the best the elephants have to offer.


Exactly. You could add the douche Cruz to that, and Rubio the Eagle Scout to the list. Forget about Carson, most people have. Bush is a non-starter. Hillary is our next president. Sorry to say that racists like MFM and the other delusional right wing crazies here are screwed. But hey, it's good for the country. Can I get an amen???


Classic leftist hater

Hates everyone who disagrees with him. Then marks those who disagree with him as racist haters.

All we need is for you to burn few books and shout praise for "der Fuhrer".
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Originally Posted by k22hornet
Paddler,

Would you mind answering Bob's direct question with a direct answer? You have not even touched on these.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

Name all these Obama accomplishments.Please be specific.

While you're at it, also tell me about Hillary's "accomplishments", that qualify her to be president. C'mon...convince me.



Also, what kind of a prissy dog do you have, "my Shorthair doesn't do water". Do you tell the dog what to do, or does the dog tell you?


She won't even pick up ducks. Grouse, chukar, pheasant, fine. Waterfowl isn't in her job description. She gets the paper every morning, though.

Is it my imagination or is MFM a white supremacist? He sure sounds bitter. Maybe being stupid causes bitterness. I see a lot of that here on the 'fire. Think I'm on to something.
Originally Posted by BMT
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by BFD
Originally Posted by ConradCA
How low can this scumbag go?


About 8 more years, if Trump is the best the elephants have to offer.


Exactly. You could add the douche Cruz to that, and Rubio the Eagle Scout to the list. Forget about Carson, most people have. Bush is a non-starter. Hillary is our next president. Sorry to say that racists like MFM and the other delusional right wing crazies here are screwed. But hey, it's good for the country. Can I get an amen???


Classic leftist hater

Hates everyone who disagrees with him. Then marks those who disagree with him as racist haters.

All we need is for you to burn few books and shout praise for "der Fuhrer".


Nope, that's Trump. Close mosques, register Muslims, ban them from the USA. Build a huge, beautiful wall. Mexicans are rapists and murderers. His support comes from uneducated, dim-witted folks. Is that you?

I'm just stating the obvious. Not a single Republican candidate has a snowball's chance in hell. The sooner you accept it the better off you'll be.
Originally Posted by Paddler

I'm just stating the obvious. Not a single Republican candidate has a snowball's chance in hell. The sooner you accept it the better off you'll be.


You're oblivious to the obvious...America is fed up with the extreme right...I'll copy & paste, because your not intelligent enough to waste any more time on...



Don't deflect the question by ranting about Cruz...

Obama has had eight years to tackle the high costs associated with medicine & medical care... I happen to be anti abortion, anti immigration, (sic)"anti-providing healthcare" & the ONLY way I'll be disappointed is IF another democrat or socialist is elected...I just want the next president to do the job he was elected to do...NOT to do what he/she THINKS what is best for me...I want a president that can actually SEE the muslim problem for what it is & take appropriate measures to protect U.S. & its interests....How about a president that fully supports the constitution & Bill Of Rights of the U.S. unconditionally, instead of picking & choosing the parts he likes??? How about a president that enforces federal laws instead of spending most of his time trying to find a way to circumvent them???
Originally Posted by Paddler
Nope, that's Trump. Close mosques, register Muslims, ban them from the USA. Build a huge, beautiful wall. Mexicans are rapists and murderers. His support comes from uneducated, dim-witted folks. Is that you?

I'm just stating the obvious. Not a single Republican candidate has a snowball's chance in hell. The sooner you accept it the better off you'll be.


During WW2 did the USA allow Germans or Japanese to enter the country? Of course they didn. Now that we are at war with Islam we shouldn't allow Muslims entry into the USA, should kick out all non-citizen Muslims living here and should watch the Muslims citizens who remain. It's not any different than what we did in WW2.

However, Trump never said anything about concentration camps or kicking Muslims out of the USA. All he said was that we should stop all Muslims from entering the USA temporarily until Congress can pass a law that stops the insanity of allowing terrorists into our country so they can murder US citizens.
Pad,

Quite the record of selling out the country, your klinton "heroes" :

Most favored nation treaty with China...bye bye jobs

Repeal of Glass Steagal...can you say financial debacle, bankster welfare ?

Oh yea, then the final gift to the banksters, making it illegal to default on student loans.

And you really back these people who sold us all out to the highest bidder ?

We won't even go into the pile of dead bodies that follow these two POS around.....

PHd..piled high and deep for certain...LOL
He's incapable of discerning truth from propaganda... He's willing to accept lies about Trump being a racist, when in fact he does not know the truth...Just like he insinuated that I was a "white supremacist"...deflect, dodge & change the subject & if that doesn't work, start slandering & insulting...all too typical of people who have jumped on the bandwagon to "fundamentally change" America....
Originally Posted by ConradCA
Originally Posted by Paddler
Nope, that's Trump. Close mosques, register Muslims, ban them from the USA. Build a huge, beautiful wall. Mexicans are rapists and murderers. His support comes from uneducated, dim-witted folks. Is that you?

I'm just stating the obvious. Not a single Republican candidate has a snowball's chance in hell. The sooner you accept it the better off you'll be.


During WW2 did the USA allow Germans or Japanese to enter the country? Of course they didn. Now that we are at war with Islam we shouldn't allow Muslims entry into the USA, should kick out all non-citizen Muslims living here and should watch the Muslims citizens who remain. It's not any different than what we did in WW2.



However, Trump never said anything about concentration camps or kicking Muslims out of the USA. All he said was that we should stop all Muslims from entering the USA temporarily until Congress can pass a law that stops the insanity of allowing terrorists into our country so they can murder US citizens.


We are not at war with Islam.
Originally Posted by hicountry
Pad,

Quite the record of selling out the country, your klinton "heroes" :

Most favored nation treaty with China...bye bye jobs

Repeal of Glass Steagal...can you say financial debacle, bankster welfare ?

Oh yea, then the final gift to the banksters, making it illegal to default on student loans.

And you really back these people who sold us all out to the highest bidder ?

We won't even go into the pile of dead bodies that follow these two POS around.....

PHd..piled high and deep for certain...LOL


Dead bodies? Are you counting Bush's pile? A bit over 4000, I think, plus tens of thousands wounded, IIRC.

I paid my student loans, just as I would any other debt.

Are you on something, or just hopelessly stupid?
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by hicountry
Pad,
We won't even go into the pile of dead bodies that follow these two POS around.....

PHd..piled high and deep for certain...LOL


Dead bodies? Are you counting Bush's pile? A bit over 4000, I think, plus tens of thousands wounded, IIRC.


Are you on something, or just hopelessly stupid?


I think you ought to look in the mirror & ask yourself your last question....
As to his first statement about dead bodies, there have been a chitload of their close associates that have died under very suspicious circumstances....like bullet holes in their heads...
Paddler you hard charging puzzy azzed pos of "I hunt the hills for birds" self inflated douche bag still hanging around here?



c'mon up and go sheep hunting, we'll have a lil party while we're there


4ager has you nailed to a tee
This is a trick question cuz, hiliary has chronic intractable diarrhea of deceit.


piddler is her proctochiatrist. That splains how he contracted terminal fecalcephalia.



BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha!
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by hicountry
Pad,
We won't even go into the pile of dead bodies that follow these two POS around.....

PHd..piled high and deep for certain...LOL


Dead bodies? Are you counting Bush's pile? A bit over 4000, I think, plus tens of thousands wounded, IIRC.


Are you on something, or just hopelessly stupid?


I think you ought to look in the mirror & ask yourself your last question....
As to his first statement about dead bodies, there have been a chitload of their close associates that have died under very suspicious circumstances....like bullet holes in their heads...


Do you really believe that? If so, you are to be pitied. Just too stoopid for words.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by hicountry
Pad,
We won't even go into the pile of dead bodies that follow these two POS around.....

PHd..piled high and deep for certain...LOL


Dead bodies? Are you counting Bush's pile? A bit over 4000, I think, plus tens of thousands wounded, IIRC.


Are you on something, or just hopelessly stupid?


I think you ought to look in the mirror & ask yourself your last question....
As to his first statement about dead bodies, there have been a chitload of their close associates that have died under very suspicious circumstances....like bullet holes in their heads...


I really believe Hilary. I am to be pitied. As I'm Just too stoopid for words.



Fixed it for you. No need to thank me
The enabling bitch got spanked for pretending her husband wasn't a rapist. grin


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