THE NEW YORKER: One of the best articles that I have seen regarding our political dilemma.

Excellent read. The author is the political correspondent for Bloomberg and wrote extensively about Obama even before he was elected and he did it with facts and more facts.


"Who is Donald Trump?" The better question may be, "What is Donald Trump?" The answer? A giant middle finger from average Americans to the political and media establishment.

Some Trump supporters are like the 60s white girls who dated black guys just to annoy their parents. But most Trump supporters have simply had it with the Demo-socialists and the "Republicans In Name Only." They know there isn't a dime's worth of difference between Hillary Rodham and Jeb Bush, and only a few cents worth between Rodham and the other GOP candidates.

Ben Carson is not an "establishment" candidate, but the Clinton machine would pulverize Carson; and the somewhat rebellious Ted Cruz will (justifiably so) be tied up with natural born citizen lawsuits (as might Marco Rubio). The Trump supporters figure they may as well have some fun tossing Molotov cocktails at Wall Street and Georgetown while they watch the nation collapse. Besides - lightning might strike, Trump might get elected, and he might actually fix a few things. Stranger things have happened (the nation elected an [islamo-]Marxist in 2008 and Bruce Jenner now wears designer dresses.)

Millions of conservatives are justifiably furious. They gave the Republicans control of the House in 2010 and control of the Senate in 2014, and have seen them govern no differently than Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Yet those same voters are supposed to trust the GOP in 2016? Why?

Trump did not come from out of nowhere. His candidacy was created by the last six years of Republican failures.

No reasonable person can believe that any of the establishment candidates [dems or reps] will slash federal spending, rein in the Federal Reserve, cut burdensome business regulations, reform the tax code, or eliminate useless federal departments (the Departments of Education, Housing and Urban Development, Energy, etc.). Even Ronald Reagan was unable to eliminate the Department of Education. (Of course, getting shot at tends to make a person less of a risk-taker.) No reasonable person can believe that any of the nation's major problems will be solved by Rodham, Bush, and the other dishers of donkey fazoo now eagerly eating corn in Iowa and pancakes in New Hampshire.

Many Americans, and especially Trump supporters, have had it with:

· Anyone named Bush

· Anyone named Clinton

· Anyone who's held political office

· Political correctness

· Illegal immigration

· Massive unemployment

· Phony "official" unemployment and inflation figures

· Welfare waste and fraud

· People faking disabilities to go on the dole

· VA waiting lists

· TSA airport groping

· ObamaCare

· The Federal Reserve's money-printing schemes

· Wall Street crooks like Jon Corzine

· Michelle Obama's vacations

· Michelle Obama's food police

· Barack Obama's golf

· Barack Obama's arrogant and condescending lectures

· Barack Obama's criticism/hatred of America

· Valerie Jarrett

· "Holiday trees"

· Hollywood hypocrites

· Global warming nonsense

· Cop killers

· Gun confiscation threats

· Stagnant wages

· Boys in girls' bathrooms

· Whiny, spoiled college students who can't even place the Civil War in the correct century... and that's just the short list.

Trump supporters believe that no Democrat wants to address these issues, and that few Republicans have the courage to address these issues. They certainly know that none of the establishment candidates are better than barely listening to them, and Trump is their way of saying, "Screw you, Hillary Rodham Rove Bush!" The more the talking head political pundits insult the Trump supporters, the more supporters he gains. (The only pundits who seem to understand what is going on are Democrats Doug Schoen and Pat Caddell and Republican John LeBoutillier. All the others argue that the voters will eventually "come to their senses" and support an establishment candidate.)

But America does not need a tune-up at the same old garage. It needs a new engine installed by experts - and neither Rodham nor Bush are mechanics with the skills or experience to install it. Hillary Rodham is not a mechanic; she merely manages a garage her philandering husband abandoned. Jeb Bush is not a mechanic; he merely inherited a garage. Granted, Trump is also not a mechanic, but he knows where to find the best ones to work in his garage. He won't hire his brother-in-law or someone to whom he owes a favor; he will hire someone who lives and breathes cars.

"How dare they revolt!" the "elites" are bellowing. Well, the citizens are daring to revolt, and the RINOs had better get used to it. "But Trump will hand the election to Clinton!" That is what the Karl Rove-types want people to believe, just as the leftist media eagerly shoved "Maverick" McCain down GOP throats in 2008 - knowing he would lose to Obama. But even if Trump loses and Rodham wins, she would not be dramatically different than Bush or most of his fellow candidates. They would be nothing more than caretakers, not working to restore America's greatness but merely presiding over the collapse of a massively in-debt nation. A nation can perhaps survive open borders; a nation can perhaps survive a generous welfare system. But no nation can survive both - and there is little evidence that the establishment candidates of either party understand that. The United States cannot forever continue on the path it is on. At some point it will be destroyed by its debt.

Yes, Trump speaks like a bull wander[ing] through a china shop, but the truth is that the borders do need to be sealed; we cannot afford to feed, house, and clothe 200,000 Syrian immigrants for decades (even if we get inordinately lucky and none of them are ISIS infiltrators or Syed Farook wannabes); the world is at war with radical Islamists; all the world's glaciers are not melting; and Rosie O'Donnell is a fat pig.

Is Trump the perfect candidate? Of course not. Neither was Ronald Reagan. But unless we close our borders and restrict immigration, all the other issues are irrelevant. One terrorist blowing up a bridge or a tunnel could kill thousands. One jihadist poisoning a city's water supply could kill tens of thousands. One electromagnetic pulse attack from a single Iranian nuclear device could kill tens of millions. Faced with those possibilities, most Americans probably don't care that Trump relied on eminent domain to grab up a final quarter acre of property for a hotel, or that he boils the blood of the Muslim Brotherhood thugs running the Council on American-Islamic Relations. While Attorney General Loretta Lynch's greatest fear is someone giving a Muslim a dirty look, most Americans are more worried about being gunned down at a shopping mall by a crazed [islamic] lunatic who treats his prayer mat better than his three wives and who thinks 72 virgins are waiting for him in paradise.

The establishment is frightened to death that Trump will win, but not because they believe he will harm the nation. They are afraid he will upset their taxpayer-subsidized apple carts. While Obama threatens to veto legislation that spends too little, they worry that Trump will veto legislation that spends too much.

You can be certain that if an establishment candidate wins in November 2016, … [their] cabinet positions will be filled with the same people we've seen before. The washed-up has-beens of the Clinton and Bush administrations will be back in charge. The hacks from Goldman Sachs will continue to call the shots. Whether it is Bush's Karl Rove or Clinton's John Podesta, who makes the decisions in the White House will matter little.
If the establishment wins, America loses.

Nice article. Fleshes out most of the salient points.

,...because the alternative is an old fat ankled bitch with a prolapsed uterus or a lop eared Cuban kid.

That's really it after it's all been boiled down.

American politicians haven't been any good for a long time,..but here lately they've gone all to fuggall.

I mean,...seriously,...if the nominations go the wrong way this go around,...you're gonna have to choose between a kid with his ears taped back or an old woman wearin' a souped up jock strap.

Hillary say, "Time out!,...my pussy has come loose!"

Huma pops out from behind the curtain holdin' a plunger,..then they break for commercial.

,....wonder what's on TV,...

Ted Cruz is evangelizing on FAUX news...

The ramifications for the SCOTUS are absolutely HUUUUUGE....potentially as many as 3 seats, 2 almost a certainty, counting the one open now.

We HAVE to win this election on so many levels or it's Katie bar the door.

MM

I tried to email this post to my email but it wont send. Wonder whats up with that?

Try this one


http://townhall.com/columnists/john...s-not-to-vote-for-donald-trump-n2125585?

Brilliant!

A lot of people need to wake up & come to reality.

Mitch McConnell was running his mouth again yesterday about anti-Trump programs & how he simply cannot be the GOP candidate........he's the embodiment of exactly why people are flocking to Trump.

The establishment is scared to death.

MM

And even if we win, we may still loose.

sure wish there was a conservative candidate that had a chance.

Given all the really ugly infighting, & now the threat of the GOP trying to bring in Romney at the convention, I'm beginning to think we've already, once again, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Just far to splintered to recover & elect someone for the good of the country..........too many are willing to allow Hitlery to become Queen.

MM

While I'm not there yet,this could be all the more reason to get behind him.

Peggy Noonan had an editorial in yesterdays WSJ opining much the same thoughts. She's a very good observer of the American political scene and has nailed it.

Go Trump.

This is it in a nut shell. A Trump win - anyone but a politician - will unleash unpredictable chaos. The guy doesn't even know what he believes, so how are we to predict what he'll do?

This won't end well because there is no political solution left that will return our nation to a Constitutional Republic.

Safest bet is to move to a conservative state, shore up state government to resist Federal tyranny and stay true to our founding principles. We are not the first formerly free nation to slide into collectivist tyranny.

Unfortunately for our kids, we have not been wise enough to realize that the route of populism is the road to serfdom.

Ask Donald what his politics were 10 yrs ago and he was as liberal as can be.

1. He believed in partial birth abortion, gun control, higher taxes, government taking private land for any reason. He will make terrible decisions for U.S Supreme court. He even said his sister would make a great candidate. She is ultra left. Now he says he is a Christian, but claims he never asked God for forgiveness. Talk about arrogant . If he does the things he said he will do , I will vote for him. I'm voting for a president, not a pastor. Problem is , he changes his mind all the time and denies things he said just the day before he denies them. Ain't no way he can be trusted. Instead, conservatives give the boot to Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal and Rick Perry in exchange for Trump? We, as conservatives have completely lost our minds in this country .

Just 3 years ago people on the fire was lamenting that they wished there was a conservative running to vote for. Now there is one and nobody cares. I just hope Trump turns out to not be the con man that I think he is. miles

As I said-- Trump or Hillary-- who gets YOUR vote??

This text jumped right out in my face,....e.g. distressingly SIMILAR radical changes in both of their "presentations"

This incumbent attitude is exactly why I voted for Trump.

I was shocked the GOP couldn't produce a nominee that could easily win the general election in 2012. And a little sickened they have learned very little from 2012.

Here is the deal with Trump.

He might be a good venue to get an immediate flip off the establishment, but that is all you can guarantee of him. If he goes left, like he has felt all his life with the exception of about 8 months ago to present, it will not surprise me one bit.

If Trump does what he says now, I would support him a lot more. Though sadly for Trump, I am not convinced of this 'newly' minted Trump. Right now, I feel he is a NE liberal that is fooling a lot of deeply angry people that he is a conservative outsider. His non PC stature got him where he is at today. But that in no way telegraphs how he will actually govern as President. That is what I believe most Trump supporters don't get yet.

As far as Cruz, I believe we have a better shot at getting where we need to be to turn this thing around. No guarantees there either, but I feel we have a much, much better shot. If conservative principles in governing are your thing, there is no other option other than Cruz.

RAS

There has always been a portion of America that idolizes the bad guy. If you'll notice, most of the Trump supporters here at the 'fire have espoused Edward Snowden as a hero.

Some people think Mark Fuhrman is a hero too.

I like the hypocrisy.

Trump gets a pass on his evolving 2nd amendment stance, yet the 2A is cited as a single source for excluding other candidates.

Trump is lauded as the "Non politician", yet the same people will post threads about other politicians endorsing him and what a big thing that is.

Get america working, yet hires a boat load of Ukranian's to work his resort.

Of course, pointing all this out labels one desperate

Whatever helps them sleep through the night, I guess, but IMO they should have stuck with vodka and pills.

Excellent indeed...

Wonder if some of us are thinking that we can choose a (any) professional politician who will tell us what we want to hear, make us feel warm and fuzzy, but whose actions will continue to grow big government, selling out american middle class......or.... Trump. Either way, the 2 party system is broken.

Just throwin' this out there, but you DO know that Reagan was a Democrat before he was a Republican, right??

Seems he came out ok..

Seems Roberts was conservative before he was put on the court.

really want to hedge bets on potential "change"


Sorry, man, but the justification [bleep] doesn't fly.

If you like him because of his snarky demeanor, and you want to go all in on his rhetoric, fine, but geez, can his supporters stop covering for his shortcomings and just sell what we see?

Spot on...

Reagan was a very successful republican governor who had a solid record for damn near 20 years before becoming president and comparing a 50's democrat to todays variety is just plain idiocy...

I do. But I think that he changed over more than 15 minutes before He filed to run for President. miles

Seems Roberts was conservative before he was put on the court.

really want to hedge bets on potential "change"
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Cruz thought so too with his vigorous support of Roberts.

Because we can.

At what point does a guy standing up in front of an audience telling lies to obtain a political position become a politician?

Easy, Bob. Your recent started thread on the "open letter to the GOP" puts Cruz in the "GOP is against him" category.

If that's the selling point for Trump, why not Cruz?

Oh yeah, because Cruz is just another establishment crony?

How does that work?

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LT, there are days i wonder what color is the sky in your world. Today is one of those days.

Do you have a link???

Vigorous support??? Laughin here...

Seems to run counter-grain. Trump supported the government and not Apple. I disagree with Trump on that.

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Your cluelessness truly doesn't have any limitations.

Here is why I think Trump is resonating with people.

Lets start with why his two main competitors are not resonating with people first:


Cruz: While ideologically more conservative and more closely aligned with most of us here at the Campfire and others who are well versed in the Constitution and History he comes across, at least to me, as a smarmy little policy wonk nerd on TV.

This may work well arguing court cases before the SCOTUS or an academic debate team but its not going to fly very well with a public that in large part doesn't know the tenets of the Constitution from the discomfort of constipation.

His televangelist delivery style, PossumPuss smile, and dirty political (whether real or just perceived) maneuvering doesn't help him either.


Rubio: Rubio is the RNC's fairhaired boy and as such is the personification of all that a large part of the country is FED UP with. He also has elements of the nerdy policy wonk too.

Nino Bonito Rubio is also aligned with milquetoasts like Graham of SC and is way too willing to push for amnesty for the illegals.

He represents a LOT of what people are sick to death of in Washington.

Now to Trump: Is he perfect or even a token conservative? No, not by a snootfull. But, he has things that reach far beyond political purity. Trump has tapped into the ill will toward Washington that exists among a large cross-section of the populace in a BIG way. He gives voice to the FED UP.

He is also far better at the media and marketing game than either Cruz or Rubio will ever be. I think some of his antics and off the wall statements are by design. They attract media coverage like a cow pie attracts flies. Trump speaks, the media airtime is sucked up and his rivals are lost in the din.

This marketing stuff will help in a general election.

In the general election he won't cower from Hillary when she goes on the attack the way McCain and Romney did with Obama. He will hit back and even get NASTY.


His celebrity and perception of being successful and a "Winner" will catch and hold the attention of many of the those that don't pay close attention to policy positions.

Add in the effect his kids and wife, one and all smart and ATTRACTIVE, can have on the campaign trail and Trump becomes even more viable.

In fact, I think Trump could peel some usually blue states (i.e. PA) from the DNC column.

Like him or not he is the BEST chance we have of keeping the Wicked Bitch of the East out of the Oval Office and putting a shot across the bow of the RNC Establishment.

It was not as vigorous as Trump's support of Clinton.

Laughin even harder....

Trump didn't vote for Clinton.

Cruz supported and voted for Roberts.

A Cruz nomination will again give us Clinton.

Did he give her (and him) money?



Apparently vigorously



there's equal spitballing that a Trump nomination will give us Clinton.

And more that a Trump nomination gives us Clintonesque should he win the general.

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Of course you are...it's the blissful part of ignorance.

You finally got one right...he voted for Obama...

I am ignorant about his support of John Roberts, that's why I asked for a link on your claim that a state AG would "VIGOROUSLY" support a SC nominee & how you would actually "KNOW" that as a fact...Not that it really matters, because John Roberts had a lot of people fooled...

Trump will break that record.


One way or the other....

And during his governorship he legalized abortion and outlawed carrying loaded guns in public.

Good read . . .