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Posted By: Pappy348 Snake handling - 05/19/17
My little Chinese bride has been seeing a snake around the yard of late, a fair-sized garter snake. I've been telling her not to worry, he's a good snake to have around and that he won't bother her.

This morning, he showed up while we walked around the yard and I ran over and grabbed him so she could get a good look. While I was trying to get her to come closer, I suddenly got a whiff of something awful. Looked down and the bast*rd had pooped all over my hands. What a stink!

None of the other snakes I've picked up, mostly black rat snakes, have done that to me. Don't know if that's a good defense against predators, but it's sure a good one against this old fat man.

Posted By: funshooter Re: Snake handling - 05/19/17
Take that poop and put it where you do not want any mice and the mice will be gone.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Snake handling - 05/19/17
Uh....

Didn't save it.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Snake handling - 05/19/17
lot of snakes use the poop as a defense mechanism.
Posted By: Gus Re: Snake handling - 05/19/17
uh, some of'em will pee on ya too. and some will attempt to bite. might even bring a drop or two of blood. my son got bit by a big rat snake when he was about 8 years old. he didn't stop handling them though.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Snake handling - 05/19/17
I expect the biting, and don't give them the chance. The poop was a surprise.

Black rat snakes put up a big fuss at first, but settle down quickly. This guy was pissed, kept his mouth open the whole time. Read that their saliva is mildly poisonous, but not a danger unless you're allergic.
Posted By: Daverageguy Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Snake...relax and KILL all of em
Posted By: oldgunsmith Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Found some snakes this morning myself. Think they were Siamese twins, seemed to be connected at the thorax or something. Largest one was about 8 foot. My wife got these photos for me.


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Posted By: GeoW Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
I recken when yer got to go... yer got to go!
Posted By: Sako76 Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Oldgunsmith--what kind of snakes are those?
Posted By: oldgunsmith Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Bull Snakes. They hiss loudly and shake their tails to imitate a rattlesnake, but are non-venomous. Good ones to have around. Eat gophers and rats and such.
Posted By: Prwlr Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Originally Posted by oldgunsmith
Found some snakes this morning myself. Think they were Siamese twins, seemed to be connected at the thorax or something. Largest one was about 8 foot. My wife got these photos for me.


Could those be two bull snakes mating?
Posted By: northcountry Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
They look like King snakes but what do I know about snakes. They may be in a mating mode. Cheers NC
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Originally Posted by Prwlr
Originally Posted by oldgunsmith
Found some snakes this morning myself. Think they were Siamese twins, seemed to be connected at the thorax or something. Largest one was about 8 foot. My wife got these photos for me.


Could those be two bull snakes mating?

That connected at the thorax thing just might be a clue.🤔

Generally, when I'm connected at the thorax, that's the reason.
Posted By: Orion2000 Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Originally Posted by stxhunter
lot of snakes use the poop as a defense mechanism.

This ^^^^ Always try to grab as close to the head as possible and let the rest hang down. A 4 to 5ft black snake can put out a good bit of stench when so inclined...
Posted By: Ravenr2 Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Cool pics and definatly mating, 8' bull snake is a hellofa bull snake! All the constrictors, bull snakes, rat snakes, Indigos.... kill and eat other snakes including poisonous ones as part of their diet. Good snakes even when they poop on you.
Posted By: Deflagrate Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
My little bride saw a snake and left coconut water for it. She said he might be thirsty. No lie, Asian women are different.
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Originally Posted by Deflagrate
My little bride saw a snake and left coconut water for it. She said he might be thirsty. No lie, Asian women are different.


Sure are apechit fond of turtles, too. I have a resident Desert Tortoise that a whole PACK of Asian women are hot for,......sorry, no WAY they're displacing that critter.

GTC
Posted By: CCCC Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Probably picked up way to many snakes when I was a kid - they simply were fascinating. It was normal to grab and hold them right behind the head. Some would then wrap around the arm. The smaller snakes would go the "poop" route pretty quickly. If you could handle a larger one gently and it could stay calm, you might avoid the defecate. When we arrived in the SW I had a young wife and 1 yr. old daughter and catching rattlers was supposed to be off limits. I only did that two or three times, and they were not the Mohave variety. The last time I attempted to catch a snake was about 10 years later in our back yard in Tucson - the kids (4 by then) wanted to see up close the every morning invader. I simply failed - it was a Red Racer. Try that sometime.
Posted By: 700LH Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Bull Snake, Gopher Snake same critter.
8 foot is longer than I have ever seen by a couple of feet.
Here in Idaho a four footer would be huge, have caught em over 5' south of here.
The ones here are faster to fight than the Western Rattlers which is the only rattlers here in SW Idaho.
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
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I caught this guy under the lid of my propane tank.
Posted By: muleshoe Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
I am powerful happy I don't have to worry about those kind of snakes under my propane tank.
Posted By: stevelyn Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Jake NoShoulders and I don't get along. Thankfully I don't have to deal with the bastids here.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Well, ive heard of snakes scaring the crap out of people but not this. You must be pretty scarey, Pappy.
Posted By: Gun_Doc Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
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I caught this guy under the lid of my propane tank.


What kind of snake is that?
Posted By: shortactionsmoker Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
A big copperhead!
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
In Arkansas one time my dad and I found a big copperhead under the lid on our 1000 gal propane tank. We were checking the tank and getting it ready to be filled for the winter. The snake was just laying in there coiled around the gauges and controls. He was probably 3 to 4 foot long and that size is deadly.
Posted By: las Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Originally Posted by Daverageguy
Snake...relax and KILL all of em



Snakes are good - even most of the bad ones. Well, I do live in Alaska, but I grew up Outside.... Yeah, snake poop/pee stinks - ask me how I know!

It's humans I have problems with, and not a one of them has ever physically crapped/peed on me - except for my sons..... smile

I always liked what we called "puff-adders". Might have been hog-nosed, for all I know. Have no idea what they really were. when vulnerable, they would roll over as if "dead". Roll them over right side up, and they would roll over belly side up. Time after time.

They were, BY DAMNED, dead!!!! smile
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
I handled this one last week.

My preferred way of handling them now. wink

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Posted By: VAhuntr Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Caught this in my neighbors flower basket sitting on her front porch.

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Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Luckily the only poisonous snake found in Idaho is the Western Rattler, AKA Prairie Rattler. We have lots of garter snakes and a few bull snakes around here and I let them be. They eat a lot of crawly things.
Posted By: RockyRaab Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Snakes don't like to be dangled. You would panic too if somebody picked you up by the neck and let your body dangle. If you grab one behind the head, always support the heavy part of the body with your other hand and they calm down quickly.
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
this guy turned up on my front porch one evening. He was quite pissy and would strike at you if you were within 4 feet of him. I had to look him up and eventually concluded it was a Texas brown snake. Max size 10-12 inches, and that's about how big this guy was.

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Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Originally Posted by Pappy348
My little Chinese bride has been seeing a snake around the yard of late, a fair-sized garter snake. I've been telling her not to worry, he's a good snake to have around and that he won't bother her.

This morning, he showed up while we walked around the yard and I ran over and grabbed him so she could get a good look. While I was trying to get her to come closer, I suddenly got a whiff of something awful. Looked down and the bast*rd had pooped all over my hands. What a stink!

None of the other snakes I've picked up, mostly black rat snakes, have done that to me. Don't know if that's a good defense against predators, but it's sure a good one against this old fat man.



The old Rocker Alice Cooper used to do a stage act where he'd walk around with a good sized (8-9 feet) albino python on his shoulders. One night on stage the snake chit on him, and the smell was so bad he had to fight to keep from throwing up. grin
Posted By: ShadeTree Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
Originally Posted by Orion2000
Originally Posted by stxhunter
lot of snakes use the poop as a defense mechanism.

This ^^^^ Always try to grab as close to the head as possible and let the rest hang down. A 4 to 5ft black snake can put out a good bit of stench when so inclined...



If you're saying to just grab behind the head and let the tail hand down and do what it wants, that's a big negatory. I abandoned my normal method of grabbing a snake behind the head with one hand, while holding the tail with the other, just ONE time. Never again. A big black snake with an uncontrolled tail will immediately wrap around your arm and they can squeeze like a 1 ton hydraulic vise. I found out a big snake has a lot of stamina and the only way to get them to stop is to get some help to get them off your arm.
Posted By: Hogwild7 Re: Snake handling - 05/20/17
If I run into a poisonous snake I usually kill them. Non poisonous I leave alone. A couple of years ago a buddy of mine called me to come get a snake behind his office. It was a king snake coiled up on a bush outside the back windows and was upsetting his female employees. I walked over and picked it up and could hear the women screaming in the office. I took it home and let it go in the woods behind the house. A few days later my wife went out to light the grill and she came back in mad as a hornet. The king snake had gotten up in the bottom of the gas grill and after she lit it he was flopping all over trying to get out up through the grates instead of going out the bottom. Needless to say I got a lecture.
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