You can't make this stuff up.

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8/7/charlottesville_va_backs_reparations_fund_for

Re-writing history will not change it!

The best thing going for it , will be money as scrap metal.

Why don't you go suck on your Glockcicle and see how much scrap metal you can get out of it.

+1

bingo another liberal on ignore.

The score is still 1/0.

I suspect Soros will try to buy it and have a melting party.

SWEET

Yes, I like the score as well.

Yep, just obliterate history, make up new stuff, and then repeat your mistakes later on.

Jeezus.

The man suggest it be used for scrap metal, so your response to him was to commit suicide? Here are some of Lee's own quotes

Madam, don't bring up your sons to detest the United States government. Recollect that we form one country now. Abandon all these local animosities, and make your sons Americans.
Advice to a Confederate widow who expressed animosity towards the northern U.S. after the end of the American Civil War, as quoted in The Life and Campaigns of General Lee (1875) by Edward Lee Childe, p. 331. Also quoted in "Will Confederate Heritage Advocates Take Robert E. Lee’s Advice?" (July 2014), by Brooks D. Simpson, Crossroads, WordPress. This quote is sometimes paraphrased as: "Madam, do not train up your children in hostility to the government of the United States. Remember, we are all one country now. Dismiss from your mind all sectional feeling, and bring them up to be Americans."
We must forgive our enemies. I can truly say that not a day has passed since the war began that I have not prayed for them.
As quoted in A Life of General Robert E. Lee (1871), by John Esten Cooke
I cannot consent to place in the control of others one who cannot control himself.
Comment regarding officers who became inebriated, as quoted in Personal Reminiscences, Anecdotes, and Letters of Gen. Robert E. Lee (1874) by John William Jones, p. 170
Sir, if you ever presume again to speak disrespectfully of General Grant in my presence, either you or I will sever his connection with this university.
After one of the faculty at Washington College in Virginia (now Washington & Lee University) had spoken insultingly of Ulysses S. Grant, as quoted in Lee the American (1912) by Gamaliel Bradford, p. 226
The forbearing use of power does not only form a touchstone, but the manner in which an individual enjoys certain advantages over others is a test of a true gentleman.
The power which the strong have over the weak, the employer over the employed, the educated over the unlettered, the experienced over the confiding, even the clever over the silly — the forbearing or inoffensive use of all this power or authority, or a total abstinence from it when the case admits it, will show the gentleman in a plain light.
The gentleman does not needlessly and unnecessarily remind an offender of a wrong he may have committed against him. He cannot only forgive, he can forget; and he strives for that nobleness of self and mildness of character which impart sufficient strength to let the past be but the past. A true man of honor feels humbled himself when he cannot help humbling others.
"Definition of a Gentleman", a memorandum found in his papers after his death, as quoted in Lee the American (1912) by Gamaliel Bradford, p. 233

Robert E. Lee was a great American soldier and should be honored as such.

IIRC, Lee didn't even own slaves, so it seems ironic that Afro-Americans would feel such animosity toward him, while at the same time praising Thomas Jefferson, a man who owned slaves and must have [bleep] them on a regular basis, given how many A-As seem to share his DNA.

It is idiotic efforts like this that occasionally make me think that you Americans are the biggest pack of dills to walk this Earth...why would anyone want to sell their history?

That just means that I can think for myself not one of those NRA sheep, I know right from wrong unlike you.

You need to leave this site. I don't know how to put it any simpler than that.

You are everything that free America has as an enemy.

Leave now.

Unloved..unwanted
I never felt so blue
I know I should leave
But I don't want to. - brokebackandy (singin' Ray Price)

Lol you type that as you get more talking points from your handlers.. what they paying these .15 cents a reply and .30 cents to start a thread?? Pretty sure you are unable to think for yourself. If that was the case then you be against rewriting history what next head to Little Bighorn and turn it into a golf course??

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Just the Liberals Stewie....

Like the AssWhole From Minnesota Below Your post...

Another DFL HoMo I'm sure.... like the ones that brought all the Somalians to MN....

how's that been working out for the Dipschitts...

the Somalis sure didn't move there for the 20 below zero January weather....

Hell Andy, if you feel strongly about it, send some black person some money. You can do that, ya know. No need to feel guilty. From what I understand, even if YOU haven't actually treated blacks poorly, you are responsible for ill treatment, because you're white. Not that that's racist, or anything...

We are witnessing the internal destruction of a nation. Just like Lenin predicted and scumbags like that POS outbackandy are all to eager to participate . The sad thing is, there aren't enough folks that care to stop it.

Is that what you are crying about ? someone not white getting something free.... Your Trump and his kind has cost our country a lot more money over the years then people on food stamps.

Outabackandy is just one of the more flagrant examples.

People like Birdwatcher is why the young people are going to kill off the boomer generation.

Hell Andy, if you feel strongly about it, send some black person some money. You can do that, ya know. No need to feel guilty. From what I understand, even if YOU haven't actually treated blacks poorly, you are responsible for ill treatment, because you're white. Not that that's racist, or anything...I want reparations from blacks, for higher crime rates, increased education cost, cost of welfare, cost of rioting, loss of jobs from affirmative action, lowered property values, etc...

It's very sad. A man should at most only have to lose a country once in his life. By the looks of it, I'm going to be "Oh-for-two..."

Andy, you need to be chained to a fire hydrant overnight in Detroit to change your opinion on your pets.

"NRA sheep"?

What the phuque are you doing here, azzhole?

Hey, Rost! I'm following your lead!

This is what it's come to.

150 years after the second American Revolution a statue of Robert E. Lee is melted down and swapped for a train car of watermelons.

Hmm, musta struck a nerve in that other thread.

Anyways them kids better hurry, we're getting pretty gray.

The "Second Revolution" was the War of 1812, not the Civil War. Your ancestors lost the Civil War.

Watermelons?

Wow, once again you are sound like a racist Storm Fronter.

Crap! I just spit beer all over my keyboard.

You're here because you've abandoned your home country.

Consequently, you lack the ability to "strike a nerve" with Americans.

Go home. Muslims are raping the females there.

They could use your help.

The libs are doing the same as ISIS does-- remove and destroy any history they do not like.
The difference is, ISIS does it with sledges and films it, the libs do it at night with masks, and with paid protesters in daylight!

Can you get your wife to post?

It wasn't a "Civil War". We never wanted to take over the gubmint in Washington, just wanted to go our own way. Yankees made too much money exploiting the South to let that happen.

civ·il war
ˌsivil ˈwô(ə)r
noun:
noun: civil war; plural noun: civil wars
a war between citizens of the same country.

No. It was a Civil War. One where the southern states wanted to leave with their slaves. The only "state right" at issue was Slavery.

Didn't read nothing in the link about melting the statue or reparations


There nothing in the link about melting down the statue or reparations.

Anyhow, it ain't like yer gonna bring on Bristoe a crisis of conscience or anything.

It wasn't between the citizens of one country, comrade. It was two countries, the USA and the CSA.

Regardless of what you call it or how you view it, I think that it is a total waste of energy to argue over something that can't be changed 152 after the fact.

Really? Please, put your wife on. It's more intelligent conversation with Fireball, it has to be with you.

Its you conservatives that are just one step away from being ISIS, with your revolution BS.

How many stars on the American Flag?

Your little rebellion failed, making this an internal issue, and like it or not, you are a citizen of the United States of America, not the csa.

P.S.

You lost. Get over it.

I was born here, to an American father who bled on Okinawa, been an American since the day I first drew breath

Yer just PO'd because I drew you out into the light is all.

...and Dude, I suggest you actually DO anything at all.... there ain't much time left down here on Earth fer either of us.

Well,....he'd tell ya the same thing that I am.

Inorder for socialism to work, history must be expunged or re-written, social morality must be eliminated and firearms must be confiscated. Right now, two out of three are well on their way to being successful. We are hanging by a thread and this will be decided in the near future.

My father walked on to Okinawa a 19 yr/old Private, 22nd Battalion, 6th Marines. When he left he was the youngest Staff Sergeant in the Corps, battlefield promotions. He never would speak of what went on there to us kids. Out of the blue one time at a McDonald's just outside the West Point gate an old guy looks at my then-16 yr old nephew and asks if his last name was O'Birdy, my nephew says no but that was his grandfather's name. The old guy gives my Dad's full name and asks if that was him, then he says he was my Dad's commanding officer and that my Dad saved his life twice on Okinawa. That was ten years back, my nephew didn't know enough to get the guy's contact info, we looked, all the records form back then are lost.

My Dad was the son of Irish immigrants who hated the Brits, he married a Brit who was the daughter of Irish immigrants who obviously didn't. I live and work surrounded by Hispanics who have been American like four generations at least.

But... back to my Dad, he was about the kindest and quietest individual you'd ever want to meet, totally devoted to family, a believing Catholic. Didn't hate anyone, not even the Japanese.

I ain't gonna speak for him except to observe that he had sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States.

Yeah, yeah,...my dad was an infantryman in the Pacific too,...three battle stars,...one of 11 men out of his Company to survive.

I don't use his WW2 experience to validate my opinions.

His life was his life. Mine is mine

Oh, poor snowflake , he needs to go hug his guns again, this is so funny,

I didn't either, to whit "I ain't gonna speak for him except to observe that he had sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States"

You're the one who told me what my own father's opinion was, in order to validate your own racial identity politic creed.

Therefore it was appropriate for me to actually describe the man.

My father always taught us to judge folks on their own personal merit, pretty much lived the same way.

You tried.

No

This place is loaded with irrational phouck sticks who have no idea that they are irrational. The US wasn't founded to be a melting pot for crackpots with loonie ideas like yours, Andy.

you know that he relishes your angry responses.
WE should just decide to NEVER feed the trolls. NEVER !

It was more founded on the raping and killing and stealing the land from the Indians, I'm betting you are proud of that one too.

This alt left ideolog has every talking point memorized. I have CNN on "ignore" and now this dolt.

You're a fuggin' lunatic.

No one seems to use facts, or arguments here, just name calling. I stood up for Outbackcandy's post. However, I will also call out his inaccuracies. The native Americans were killing each other long before the European's arrived. Most parts of the Movie Appocolipto were accurate. One way the US was able to conquer the content was because the Europeans were willing to fight the enemies of another tribe. I would guess that most people killed in history, were killed by their own race.

Obviously the score was even better then, but today it's still 1/0.

Need a blanket, I'll mail it to you.........

TRUTH!!

No amount of angry, factually correct, proven information will make a difference. Its not here for that.

Ignore completely, and starve it of the reaction and responses its looking for to make its taunting satisfactory,

You have no idea what I might think on various topics so don't try to label me, phouck stick.

You make rocks look intelligent with your fervor at trying to be relevant.

Only a lunatic would fly your Nazis flag... thats just unAmerican now.

yet white europeans be it soldier or civilian behaved just like the people they called 'savages' and condemned.
a strange hypocritical way to attempt to civilise and 'christianise' people isnt it?

But whites were not happy with just that , they also condemned, mistreated and despised the black buffalo soldiers
in the US army that were fighting the Indians, ...and chinese settlers?..whites didn't like them either, so went about
mass murdering them.



you mean the human race?...most biologists and anthropologists do not recognize race as a
biologically valid classification to divide up humans.

You must have your idiocy confused with what indians were doing to OTHER indians, long before Europeans got here and turned what was ostensibly fallow territory into the greatest country on earth and idiots like you are trying to destroy it. As to the indians, guess they should have fought harder...

There are only three races, Caucasoid, negroid and mongoloid. Guess where the indians fall into? BTW I am in complete agreement "Manifest Destiny' was nothing more than Imperial Expansion and a war of annihilation of the indians. Good think we didn't do like the Spaniards who interbred with them.

Something in that original link about "grants" to provide $50,000 to each person (black) living in public housing to use towards education, and another for $50,000 each just to give them more money they didn't work for. Seems like the real impetus behind all this crap?

Mike

Tear down the statue of one of the greatest American Generals? When Muslims commit acts of violence why aren't we tearing down Mosques?

I read the whole thread now. It's obvious we can't have an adult discussion with the likes of Andy and his pal Antelope Sniper around.

Isn't European superiority obvious to you?

Europeans have quickly dominated nearly everyplace that they have gone and the indigenous people either adapted or perished. Native Americans have been treated shabbily, but the standards of the time were to treat anyone who wasn't of European ancestry with disdain. North America, South America, Australia, Africa, and parts of Asia were colonized, civilized, and physically improved by Europeans. Look at Zimbabwe. When it was Rhodesia, people of European ancestry ran thing, fed the people, and everything worked well. Since becoming Zimbabwe in 1980, the Mugabe led government has spiraled down into a pit of lawlessness and dysfunction that exist today. Native Africans were ill prepared to lead and manage their countries when they achieved independence. The former European colonies in Africa needed multiple decades to developed an educated class and learn the skill required to govern effectively.

Or so it seems to me.

Eureka, bells and whistles finally went off! Thru this one statement OBA has given us the answer to the lieberal "Final Solution".

My question would be "which flag?"

Think, which flag had (has) flown longer in this land over such things as slavery, segregation, genocide, civil war, colonialism, and whatever other white man evils???

A hint. IT sure isn't any confederate flag. This is only the beginning


I am finished on this subject.

Giving more money to blacks is akin to pissing down a rat hole; the amount already given to them with all the social programs over the last 50 years has not altered their life trajectory for the better one little bit other than the skimmers at the top who have stolen their way to being rich.

MM

I get so sick and tired of people bitch'n about how the US govt treated the indians...those blood thirsty fückers were scalping each other for millennia, well before Lewis and Clark headed west, or even when Columbus set foot on the North American Continent. We simply had better technology (and more immunity to white spread diseases) and won the fight, just like they did to each other before whitey showed up. We don't owe them a damn thing: if anything they owe us for the drain the reservations are on the US economy, let alone the amount of taxpayer money the BIA, BIE and IHS suck up.

I think it is a good thing that they're American citizens now with a chance to succeed like anyone else, but it is pretty idiotic to think that in general the reservation system hasn't been a total failure and a drain on the US economy.

Someone was gonna take it from the Indians. Ripe for the pickin'. (As we are now.)

I'm just glad it wasn't Russia...

When you zoom out and look at the big picture things become clearer. If you want to remake a world as the commies do, you have to attack the dominate culture and that would be whites and the dominate religion which would be Christianity. Those things have to be destroyed in order for the culture to be recreated in their image. The American nation was far too strong to destroy on the battlefield so they had to get us to destroy ourselves without "having to fire a shot". They accomplish this by controlling media, the entertainment industry, and this one is UUUUGE, the education system. I don't know many school teachers, but everyone I know is a commie nut job.

"Rules for Radicals" states that a prime tactic is to make the enemy live up to his ideals because they can't. So they hit issues like slavery and Indians, the crusades, etc. They tell a few lies, a LOT of half truths to suit their agenda. I look back at my own life and see how I was targeted by propaganda in school and on TV back in the day as I came of age in the late 70's and early 80's. I remember "Roots", "500 Nations", "Dances with wolves" etc. The message in all of these things in a nutshell ......white people are bad and should feel bad about being white. It was more subtle in the beginning than it is now but seeds were planted in minds.

The attacks on Christianity are now just as obvious. From "Vanguards" such as Madeline O'Hare getting prayer out of public schools to the Homosexual rights movement where a few mentally ill deviants have been elevated to an untouchable protected class, in both cases Christians have been told to shut up and like it.....and they did.

I see more and more that Chickens hatched a long time ago are coming home to roost. When you get down to it race is not really the issue but it is an issue being used to further the real issue which is replacing capitalism with communism in America.

Well damn, I answered the Indian thing on the wrong thread.

No, we didn't rape, steal, cheat and murder our way across the Continent, leastways no more than Americans were doing to other Americans (there's always gonna be some of that). The most unstoppable force in history is population demographics. We were doubling about every 25 years, the Indians were getting hammered by repeated epidemics. Most treaties were made in good faith, but then every time within a generation the whole situation on the ground changes.

The whole time from beginning to end most Indians who actually die by human hands are killed by other Indians. For example, I'm recalling a incident in the Black Hills in the winter of '76/'77, during the aftermath of the Custer defeat. It is obvious to everyone on both sides what is the outcome is gonna be. The cavalry is out in force scouring the plains, relentlessly hunting down the last holdouts through the dead of winter, guided by other Indians from tribes hostile to the Lakotas.

One of these fugitive bands, despite being fully aware of the precariousness of their situation, take the time to send their men out to massacre thirty Shoshone men, women and children. Upon the war party's successful return they hold a scalp dance, a thing which runs most of the night.

The. very next morning the sleeping camp was surprised by a contingent of cavalry led by General George Crook, guided in by Pawnee scouts. I always wonder WTF were those Lakotas thinking, in those dire straits, expending all their time and energy towards killing other Indians, Shoshones even, who were no particular threat to them at the time.

I've got an idiot neighbor snowflake that just gushes about her son joining tie Marines. I truly hope he succeeds. The next thing out of her mouth was getting rid of all this terrible Confederate history, and Trump blah, blah. Terrible how we are trying stop illegal immigrants, it goes on and on. Can't pull her head out of her fat a## long enough to look around.

So stop talking to her, you will sleep better and you probably won't go to gaol for beating her stupid down through her shoulders.

The military will wise that kid up. While our colleges are a bastion of liberal thought, the military sure ain't.

That's pretty much what I have done. She's pretty hard to avoid though.Stupid mindless crap is always the loudest.

My family didn't own slaves, but they fought.

And even if folks buy the rhetoric that it was only about slaves, take note that once these "state rights" were gone, so to did a lot of other state rights - and it continues as such..

Maybe that foresight is why so many non slave owners 'wore the gray' as they say?