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I have a friend who has a few firearms, he's looking to get rid of a few to sponsor some new .20,.22 centerfires and a .257 roy.

17HM2
17HMR
22 LR
22 Mag
223
6mm
25-20
250-3000
25-06
6.5 TC/U
6.5 Bullberry
260 Rem
270 Wizzum
270 Roy
7mm TC/U
7mm BR
7-08
284 Win
280 Rem
30-30
308
7.5x55
30-06
30 Super
7.62x39
32 H&R
32-20
8mm Mauser
340 Roy
380
9mm Parabellum
38 Super
38 Special
357 Mag
357 Max
35 Rem
35 Whelen AI
375 H&H
38-40
10mm
41 Mag
416 Taylor
416 Rigby
44 Special
44 Mag
45 ACP
45 Colt
480 Ruger
475 Linebaugh

What do you think he should get rid of first, to finance the others mentioned? Don't be sentimental as to chambering, as there are multiples of almost all of them.

Anything in a TC is a concession.

For starters.
Got that right.
The two TC/U's and the Bullberry are a no brainer, but the 357 Max will have to stay. It is just too much fun, and has some "legal" reasons to exist in a state 15 miles away.

I'm thinking the SKS and AK are turds that should go as well...as Col. Whelen said....easily replaced with AR's if you could buy them.

He forgot about the 30-30 AI in scout config...and a couple 444's

Do you really need a .257 Roy when you have the same in a .270?
Some [bleep] with 50+ chamberings,that doesn't have a single 223AI....misses much.

Pardon all them puns and yessssssssss...I'll gun them "differences".(grin)
I'd keep the 223;the 7/08,284,or 280(pick one),and the 375H&H.Ditch the rest.

ditch 22mag, 7.62x39m, 380, 38Sup, 7mmTC/U and build a nice Roy.
Blow out the:
6mm
250-3000
25-06
380
41 mag
480 Ruger
475 Linebaugh

Now skip the 257 Roy and get a 264 Win mag.

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With that lineup, he's apparently no stranger to circulatin' cash. Tell him to keep up the good work and get a 257 Vanguard sub MOA. Ain't that expensive.
I would have no use for the 17hm2, and the 380. The 7.5x55 and the 30 super, as well as the 480 Ruger and the Linebaugh. Anyway, it looks as if he has some wiggle room.
Ditch the T/CUs, the Bullberry, the .30Super, the SKS, the AK (time likely is never better to offload those for $$$$), the .270WSM, the .30-30AI Scout, the .475, the .480, and the .17HM2.

For starters.............
Originally Posted by kciH
I have a friend who has a few firearms, he's looking to get rid of a few to sponsor some new .20,.22 centerfires and a .257 roy.


22 LR
22 Mag
223
25-06
260 Rem
280 Rem
30-30 (What Action?)
30-06
357 Mag (Revolver/Lever?)
357 Max
35 Rem (What action?)
375 H&H
44 Mag (Revolver/Lever?)
45 ACP (1911?)
45 Colt (Revolver/Lever?)


I think this is what he should keep. It would simplify his reloading. A lot of overlap there in his chambering.

I still like the .22 rimfires better than the .17's. I really hated getting rid of the .35 Whelen AI but the .375 H&H will cover all of the game the .30-06 can't cover. Didn't want to get rid of the .250-3000 but the .25-06 could be loaded down to those levels. Almost didn't keep any .257 cals since he is trying to get another.

I'm guessing most of these calibers are in Encore and Contender barrels? It sure would help to know what all these cartridges were chambered in. T/C barrels you can part with, much harder to part with a classic hunting rifle or revolver/pistol.
The 300 Super remains my favorite Big 30.
not on the list is the 338 federal
On the brightside however,there's alotta stuff mentioned,that'll float in kind.
You have FRIENDS?!

Originally Posted by kciH
I have a friend who has a few firearms, he's looking to get rid of a few to sponsor some new .20,.22 centerfires and a .257 roy.

17HM2
17HMR
22 LR
22 Mag
223
6mm
25-20
250-3000
25-06
6.5 TC/U
6.5 Bullberry
260 Rem
270 Wizzum
270 Roy
7mm TC/U
7mm BR
7-08
284 Win
280 Rem
30-30
308
7.5x55
30-06
30 Super
7.62x39
32 H&R
32-20
8mm Mauser
340 Roy
380
9mm Parabellum
38 Super
38 Special
357 Mag
357 Max
35 Rem
35 Whelen AI
375 H&H
38-40
10mm
41 Mag
416 Taylor
416 Rigby
44 Special
44 Mag
45 ACP
45 Colt
480 Ruger
475 Linebaugh

What do you think he should get rid of first, to finance the others mentioned? Don't be sentimental as to chambering, as there are multiples of almost all of them.

What do you guys not like about the 7tcu? I have a Contender in 22 hornet I like. Was thinking about getting a bigger caliber some time and was thinking 7tcu.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
You have FRIENDS?!

Originally Posted by kciH
I have a friend who has a few firearms, he's looking to get rid of a few to sponsor some new .20,.22 centerfires and a .257 roy.

17HM2
17HMR
22 LR
22 Mag
223
6mm
25-20
250-3000
25-06
6.5 TC/U
6.5 Bullberry
260 Rem
270 Wizzum
270 Roy
7mm TC/U
7mm BR
7-08
284 Win
280 Rem
30-30
308
7.5x55
30-06
30 Super
7.62x39
32 H&R
32-20
8mm Mauser
340 Roy
380
9mm Parabellum
38 Super
38 Special
357 Mag
357 Max
35 Rem
35 Whelen AI
375 H&H
38-40
10mm
41 Mag
416 Taylor
416 Rigby
44 Special
44 Mag
45 ACP
45 Colt
480 Ruger
475 Linebaugh

What do you think he should get rid of first, to finance the others mentioned? Don't be sentimental as to chambering, as there are multiples of almost all of them.



Yup, and none of them are liberal cock suckers...so I guess you don't make the list.
Originally Posted by the_shootist
With that lineup, he's apparently no stranger to circulatin' cash. Tell him to keep up the good work and get a 257 Vanguard sub MOA. Ain't that expensive.


Don't kid yourself Brother Keith, that collection was 20 years in the making.
Originally Posted by TryMe
The 300 Super remains my favorite Big 30.


The 30 Super will remain.
Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
I would have no use for the 17hm2, and the 380. The 7.5x55 and the 30 super, as well as the 480 Ruger and the Linebaugh. Anyway, it looks as if he has some wiggle room.


The 17HM2 is about as much fun as you can have to 100 yards with ammo that costs around $5/50. He also laid in a supply of 10K rounds at $3.50/50. The 17HM2, while a bit of a bastich stepchild, shoots with very good precision with a reasonable price. Point and shoot to 100 yard for the most part, you won't see a 22LR do that.

The 7.5x55 is for match shooting, the sights cost more than the rifle...who the heck gets rid of what is basically a .308? smile
get rid of the 475 and the 8mm mauser
I'd ditch the 17 Mach 2 and maybe the 22 Mag. Any TC stuff is gone. Ditch the 270 Roy, 7mm BR, 7.5x55, 284, and 25-06. You could probably pick between the 7mm-08 and 260, while letting the other go as well.
The 17 mach 2 in a good 10/22 is a riot.

Good thing I didn't have one as a kid,or there'd be nothing left.(grin)

Originally Posted by Scorpion
I'd ditch the 17 Mach 2 and maybe the 22 Mag. Any TC stuff is gone. Ditch the 270 Roy, 7mm BR, 7.5x55, 284, and 25-06. You could probably pick between the 7mm-08 and 260, while letting the other go as well.


The 7BR, in a factory XP, shoots better than about 98% of the factory rifles I've seen...probably going to stay.
Punched to 7-08,they really start to shine.

Hint.
In fairness.

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that is stupid
Originally Posted by kciH
Originally Posted by Scorpion
I'd ditch the 17 Mach 2 and maybe the 22 Mag. Any TC stuff is gone. Ditch the 270 Roy, 7mm BR, 7.5x55, 284, and 25-06. You could probably pick between the 7mm-08 and 260, while letting the other go as well.


The 7BR, in a factory XP, shoots better than about 98% of the factory rifles I've seen...probably going to stay.


Since it's in an XP-100, definitely keep it. I've got one in Fireball and they are nothing short of awesome.
You walked past another mirror and had another uncontrollable outburst I see.

I reckon it as being a concise critique,of that which was reflected.

Originally Posted by TryMe
The 17 mach 2 in a good 10/22 is a riot.

Good thing I didn't have one as a kid,or there'd be nothing left.(grin)



I can imagine one of those would be pretty wild. Lots of dead little critters for certain.
NO it wouldnt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I've only shot it in the ubiquitous Fajen T-hole Sillywet handle and that was familiar territory and a fluid transition.

It'd be a terror in a Sage Rat seige.
Originally Posted by TryMe
Punched to 7-08,they really start to shine.

Hint.


The .284 is also a former 7mm BR on that platform. Still shoots, takes a little more concentration than it did in the original config. Nice handle on that one. I don't know if I'd want a thumbhole on the .284 as it's a little "twisty" during recoil.
i like them all but not one of them
I could very much like a midgripped XP in 284Win.

Definitely. What's the farthest you've rung it out at? I imagine it holds up fairly out to 100?
The Mach 2 wearing turrets,will rattle [bleep] easily,over twice that far.
No thats a bad gun
Originally Posted by TryMe
I could very much like a midgripped XP in 284Win.



Make sure to have a better(easier) bolt stop installed if you get the urge to scratch that itch, kind of a bich to unload with a unfired round otherwise! smile
Mine has a Sako-esque portside release,as opposed to the pen knife insertion.

Pretty routine upgrade to the solid bottoms.

Depends on what shoots em. Rather have a Sako in 270 than a Mossberg in a 270, know what I mean?
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SAKO, SAKO, SAKO, SAKO, SAKO, SAKO, SAKO, SAKO, SAKO, SAKO, SAKO!!!!!!!!
Assuming an elder lineage Sako,I'd side with you. Barring that,I'd pass on both.
Only Sako in the bunch is the 30 Super.

Most of the turnbolt stuff is M70 or M98.
Of course the Sako is a M98
Have never seen a M98 Sako...do tell.
It says Sako on it, old enough to have the s/n on the barrel and simply be marked .300 Magnum. Not saying it's a Sako M98, but it is certainly a M98 action.
Intellesting.
It is a sweet rifle. Light, balanced, and you couldn't fit a skinny CH between the metal and wood.

It could do with a 3 pos safety. It has a safety like what I THINK would be called a Buehler(sp?).
can we see a picture
A parts rifle? Or are you guessing her to be intact?

Veddy curious.
anyone got sako finnlight 85
Originally Posted by TryMe
A parts rifle? Or are you guessing her to be intact?

Veddy curious.


I don't know much about older Sako's, but I believe it to be intact. Maybe we have a Sako guru here that can chime in.

I've shot a few of the newer ones, they seem to be of high quality with good/great accuracy, but they don't do much for me as far as "gotta have it" type impulses. One of my HS buddies has a nice 300 Wizzum in a stainless finlight, on a full length action. It is a very well shooting and put together rifle, but it probably doesn't weigh a pound less than my M70 Classic Stainless in .375.

What makes you deem it as being a '98?

For conversation here's my L61R based 338Ultra.

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Those mounts Stick.Gotta be loopy I reckon.
You gotta know my OptiLock disdain.(grin)
Yes I sure do.How about those orginal Sako oldtimes?They let you go 40mm with just a speck of daylight between barrel and loopy.
Bolt, bolt release, safety, etc

A whole nother animal than what you've posted.

Great pic.
They are more better,for sure.
No Kraut proofmarks or anything upon the receiver?
Prior to Sako's development of the L61R action,they did use F.N. Mauser actions upon Factory rifles from 1950-57.

Had never heard a mention,to their having crafted 98 receivers and the above do jive nicely.

It was termed the Sako Magnum Mauser Rifle. All courtesy of de Haas ala Bolt Action Rifles(Revised Edition),pg 404.



Receiver is clean of markings. Barrel has some proof marks, SAKO, made in Finland, chambering.

I've only got my CrackBerry on hand for photos, pretty poor picture taker.

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Sandal comments unneeded!
Originally Posted by TryMe
Prior to Sako's development of the L61R action,they did use F.N. Mauser actions upon Factory rifles from 1950-57.

Had never heard a mention,to their having crafted 98 receivers and the above do jive nicely.

It was termed the Sako Magnum Mauser Rifle. All courtesy of de Haas ala Bolt Action Rifles(Revised Edition),pg 404.

Thanks for the info. It is, action wise, a near double to my FN Mauser in "ol boring"



Man feet are marginally acceptable in your own home. Now if you was visiting...
300H&H was mentioned as a chambering,less mention of the 300Winny...due "likely" to it being introduced 6yrs after Sako went to their own action.(grin)

Was thinking you'd mention 300Win Mag,for some reason?
I didn't really clarify when I was talking about "old enough" to have the s/n on the barrel and it being old enough to be marked ".300 Magnum" That would cause some considerable confusion nowadays.
I do like --Bofors-> or better.

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Originally Posted by TryMe
The Mach 2 wearing turrets,will rattle [bleep] easily,over twice that far.


I figured you were running turrets on that little SOB.... grin
Originally Posted by Scorpion
Originally Posted by TryMe
The Mach 2 wearing turrets,will rattle [bleep] easily,over twice that far.


I figured you were running turrets on that little SOB.... grin


That round will likely die, but it does have its merits.
I run turrets on my Marlin 39 Stealth CB Capper.
Originally Posted by kciH
I didn't really clarify when I was talking about "old enough" to have the s/n on the barrel and it being old enough to be marked ".300 Magnum" That would cause some considerable confusion nowadays.


My Finnbear L 61 R has just 338 Magnum on the top of the barrel.It's a 338 Win Mag.
That would have flown up until the release of the Ultra, no?

I hear great things about those rifles. The one in question here, no doubt the chambering helps, is smooooth. Empty cases chamber as smoothly as live rounds.

I see no flies on the 17Mach2, I love my cheapo NEF sportster in it. Kills blackbirds like a lazer of death.
I don't see any flies on it either, but folks seem to have stayed away in droves.

Originally Posted by TryMe
Have never seen a M98 Sako...do tell.


Yes; Sako made rifles on M98 actions. Seen them.
I have one of those Sako/FN,built in 1959,30/06.My bud has one in the .270. Shoots well.....rifle
the short fat mag's,answering a question nobody asked

anything Japanese

30 carbine,an expensive alternative to 22lr IMO
Originally Posted by kciH

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Sandal comments unneeded!


Is that a trojan wrapper in the $hit can?
Originally Posted by kciH

17HM2
22 Mag
6mm
25-20
250-3000
6.5 TC/U
6.5 Bullberry
260 Rem
270 Wizzum
7mm TC/U
7mm BR
7-08
284 Win
280 Rem
308
7.5x55
30-06
30 Super
7.62x39
32 H&R
32-20
340 Roy
380
38 Super
357 Max
35 Rem
35 Whelen AI
38-40
416 Taylor


This would be what I got rid of if it was me.
I would lose the 6mm, as there is only one, the 7.5 same, 7.62x39 same, the 340 Roy as it too is an orphan (may consider losing the 270s as the 7mm category is well represented). To simplify I like using the same bullets in different cartridges. Only one 22 cf but every man needs a .223.
My Changes:

Originally Posted by kciH


17HM2
17HMR
22 LR
22 Mag
223
6mm
25-20
250-3000
25-06
6.5 TC/U
6.5 Bullberry
260 Rem
270 Wizzum
270 Roy
7mm TC/U
7mm BR
7-08
284 Win
280 Rem
30-30
308
7.5x55
30-06
30 Super
7.62x39
32 H&R
32-20
8mm Mauser
340 Roy
380
9mm Parabellum
38 Super
38 Special
357 Mag
357 Max
35 Rem
35 Whelen AI
375 H&H
38-40
10mm
41 Mag
416 Taylor
416 Rigby
44 Special
44 Mag
45 ACP
45 Colt
480 Ruger
475 Linebaugh

What do you think he should get rid of first, to finance the others mentioned? Don't be sentimental as to chambering, as there are multiples of almost all of them.



BMT
Originally Posted by Dog_Hunter
Originally Posted by kciH

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Sandal comments unneeded!


Is that a trojan wrapper in the $hit can?


Sorry about that...three future hellions is enough.
It is hard to say without knowing which rifles are chambered in the cartridges. I own some guns in calibers I would not normally have but the gun is just right.

I see a lot overlap and could trim the list a bunch. I would keep:

22LR
223
308
416 Rigby
9mm
10mm
44mag

For my personal use I could do without the 416. Other than that I think you would have all your bases covered.
my 308
Originally Posted by BobinNH
I'd keep the 223;the 7/08,284,or 280(pick one),and the 375H&H.Ditch the rest.



+1 on that!
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